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julian kaye
Jul 25, 2015, 9:37:26 AM7/25/15
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One of my favorite sayings is " You get what you measure", what do you think is being measured in this unusual distribution map?
julian kaye
Jul 25, 2015, 11:14:29 AM7/25/15
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nothing trivial to be sure
this affects both rich and poor.
this affects both rich and poor.
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One of my favorite sayings is " You get what you measure", what do you think is being measured in this unusual distribution map?
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Brian Howell
Jul 25, 2015, 11:49:05 AM7/25/15
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Well, it's not religiosity. I don't think it's some form of infection... Could it have something to do with water? Water contamination? Or some measure of scarcity? Or maybe a pollutant. Hmm...
Thanks for posting this, Julian. I like puzzles.
Craig Good
Jul 25, 2015, 1:58:42 PM7/25/15
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Red pigment.
On Jul 25, 2015, at 06:37 AM, julian kaye <juliank...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One of my favorite sayings is " You get what you measure", what do you think is being measured in this unusual distribution map?
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On Jul 25, 2015, at 06:37 AM, julian kaye <juliank...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One of my favorite sayings is " You get what you measure", what do you think is being measured in this unusual distribution map?
>
>
--Craig WWSJD?
clg...@me.com http://www.craig-good.com
"Wherever there is a jackboot stomping on a human face there will
be a well-heeled Western liberal to explain that the face does,
after all, enjoy free health care and 100 percent literacy."
--John Derbyshire
jack saunders
Jul 25, 2015, 4:18:38 PM7/25/15
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Baffled yet fascinated. Whole continents? Such huge swaths with zero variability? No govt writ is that strong. No religious persuasion is so saturated. No environmental factors so uniform. No human health outcomes so uniform. Electromagnetic fields don't observe political boundaries.
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One of my favorite sayings is " You get what you measure", what do you think is being measured in this unusual distribution map?
jack saunders
Jul 25, 2015, 4:25:12 PM7/25/15
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On Brian's ruminations -- no water condition applies uniformly to all of South America. China is a mess, but not uniformly. I've read that the environmental disaster of modern China has made its unspoiled parts suddenly the crown jewels....commercially -- protected by biz AND the Party with hammer and tong ferocity. They are places that now fetch $1000 per day visitors. Ah, the magic of the marketplace.
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julian kaye
Jul 25, 2015, 4:45:54 PM7/25/15
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another possible clue is the fact that India is so different from China and Japan in this regard.
julian kaye
Jul 25, 2015, 4:56:53 PM7/25/15
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New clue:
This distinction didn't exist prior to the first walls of Jericho.
This distinction didn't exist prior to the first walls of Jericho.
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Jack Saunders
Jul 25, 2015, 6:51:03 PM7/25/15
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Number of cattle per hectare?
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Jack Saunders
Jul 25, 2015, 6:53:56 PM7/25/15
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What do Canada, Spain and Somalia have in common?
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julian kaye
Jul 25, 2015, 7:03:09 PM7/25/15
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Hi Jack, 'fraud you're making a wrong assumption about health outcomes, there is a connection, keep going ;)
julian kaye
Jul 25, 2015, 7:04:47 PM7/25/15
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there's no relevance to those areas where no data in indicated.
julian kaye
Jul 25, 2015, 7:06:15 PM7/25/15
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this might be relevant.
julian kaye
Jul 25, 2015, 7:07:56 PM7/25/15
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oops, meant to say that the number of cattle per hectare might be relevant.
Jack Saunders
Jul 25, 2015, 8:22:57 PM7/25/15
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Methane component of ambient air samples?
Jack Saunders
Jul 25, 2015, 8:58:03 PM7/25/15
to Craig Good, julian kaye, Ipse Dixit
Lactose intolerance in USA heavily concertrated on coasts. Check Lactaid marketshare nationally. Map shows uniform distribution.
> On Jul 25, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Craig Good <clg...@me.com> wrote:
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> My first guess was going to be lactose intolerance, but I was thrown off by the grey parts of the map. If they don’t matter, maybe I’ll go back to that.
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> There's no such thing as a good tax hike.
> There's no such thing as a bad tax cut.
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> On Jul 25, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Craig Good <clg...@me.com> wrote:
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> My first guess was going to be lactose intolerance, but I was thrown off by the grey parts of the map. If they don’t matter, maybe I’ll go back to that.
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> --Craig WWJGD?
> clg...@me.com http://www.craig-good.com
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> There's no such thing as a good tax hike.
> There's no such thing as a bad tax cut.
>
julian kaye
Jul 25, 2015, 9:54:16 PM7/25/15
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solved, it is indeed a measure of lactose intolerance. The odd spread geographically might be tied to the fact that certain tribes/peoples became herdsman and thus used the resource provided. In Africa Kenyan Masai are well known milk drinkers, an important staple in their culture.
Wiki <snip>The ability to digest lactose into adulthood (lactase persistence) would have only been useful to humans after the invention of animal husbandry and the domestication of animal species that could provide a consistent source of milk. Hunter-gatherer populations before the Neolithic revolution were overwhelmingly lactose intolerant,[18][19] as are modern hunter-gatherers. Genetic studies suggest that the oldest mutations associated with lactase persistence only reached appreciable levels in human populations in the last ten thousand years
Thanks for playing ;)
julian kaye
Jul 25, 2015, 9:56:29 PM7/25/15
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On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 6:37:26 AM UTC-7, julian kaye wrote:
jack saunders
Jul 25, 2015, 10:18:02 PM7/25/15
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Excellent game! Thank you!
Brian Howell
Jul 27, 2015, 11:28:15 AM7/27/15
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Yes, thank you Julian! And a formal welcome to Ipse Dixit.
On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 7:18:02 PM UTC-7, Jack Saunders wrote:
On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 7:18:02 PM UTC-7, Jack Saunders wrote:
Excellent game! Thank you!
Craig Good
Jul 29, 2015, 12:19:23 PM7/29/15
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I’m assuming from the map that the granularity of these data is national. So I would read it as 1 in 5 Americans being lactose intolerant, but nearly all Chinese and Japanese. Also, the lighter the color, the more dairy cattle I’d expect to find. Except for France, there.
On Jul 25, 2015, at 17:58 PM, Jack Saunders <Jack...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Map shows uniform distribution.
Craig Good: A man with the courage of his conv... nevermind.
On Jul 25, 2015, at 17:58 PM, Jack Saunders <Jack...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Map shows uniform distribution.
Craig Good: A man with the courage of his conv... nevermind.
Craig Good
Jul 29, 2015, 12:19:23 PM7/29/15
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Mexico made me doubt a little, but then I remembered what the milk is like down there. Coming from the Bay Area, I don’t consider it really worth becoming tolerant for. Still surprised that the percentage is so high.
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Craig Good
Jul 29, 2015, 12:19:23 PM7/29/15
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My first guess was going to be lactose intolerance, but I was thrown off by the grey parts of the map. If they don’t matter, maybe I’ll go back to that.
Craig Good
Jul 29, 2015, 12:19:23 PM7/29/15
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More intriguingly, what do they *lack* in common?
On Jul 25, 2015, at 15:53 PM, Jack Saunders <Jack...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> What do Canada, Spain and Somalia have in common?
Flammable is inflammable for illiterates.
On Jul 25, 2015, at 15:53 PM, Jack Saunders <Jack...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> What do Canada, Spain and Somalia have in common?
Craig Good
Jul 29, 2015, 12:19:24 PM7/29/15
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Also, wide-spread lactose tolerance is around 7,500 to 9,000 years old, a fairly recent mutation. That puts it somewhere in the neighborhood of Jericho’s first wall.
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Craig Good
Jul 29, 2015, 12:19:24 PM7/29/15
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Prevalence of ethnic diversity? Probably not. The fact that no data are available for Canada and much of Europe is what has me stumped. I assume that this is a national average of some measure, but what do we know about us and China that we don’t know about Canada and Spain?
Quite the puzzle.
On Jul 25, 2015, at 13:45 PM, julian kaye <juliank...@gmail.com> wrote:
> another possible clue is the fact that India is so different from China and Japan in this regard.
We seem to be made to suffer.
It's our lot in life.
Quite the puzzle.
On Jul 25, 2015, at 13:45 PM, julian kaye <juliank...@gmail.com> wrote:
> another possible clue is the fact that India is so different from China and Japan in this regard.
It's our lot in life.
Craig Good
Jul 29, 2015, 12:19:28 PM7/29/15
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9400 BCE???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jericho
On Jul 25, 2015, at 13:56 PM, julian kaye <juliank...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This distinction didn't exist prior to the first walls of Jericho.
No, and at these prices I'm not surprised!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jericho
On Jul 25, 2015, at 13:56 PM, julian kaye <juliank...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This distinction didn't exist prior to the first walls of Jericho.
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