Couple of requests for edot mizrach Siddur

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Victor Grazi

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Apr 13, 2009, 9:24:51 PM4/13/09
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I have 2 requests for the edot mizrach Siddur - I was wondering if I
could trouble you on behalf of your sefardi users:

1. Sefirat haomer - particularly the leshem yichud preceding the omer
- would it be possible to use the nusach in yehave daat. I am not sure
what nusach you are now using but I don't think it is sefardi.

2. Would it be possible to implement the new sefardi zemanim recently
made available by Kosher Java. These are the zmanim used by sefardim
throughout the usa and possibly Israel

Much thanks, Victor

Barry Schwartz

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Apr 13, 2009, 9:51:43 PM4/13/09
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(1) Can you send us the "correct" nussach?
(2) We will investigate. The same "zmanim" but the different times?

Victor Grazi

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Apr 13, 2009, 11:24:50 PM4/13/09
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1. Don't you have the Yehave Daat siddur? Just copy from there. (I don't have a good way to type Hebrew, sorry)
2. Basically the same - there are new API's for Magen Avraham Alot, Shaot Zemaniyot, Zeman Tefilah, Zeman Kriat Shemah, Hatzot, and Plag.
Others are the same.
Perhaps Reb Eliyahu can shed more light
Much thanks, Victor

Barry Schwartz

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Apr 14, 2009, 7:16:39 AM4/14/09
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1. we are working on.
2. we will add to the list.

Joel Hakoune

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Apr 14, 2009, 9:04:44 AM4/14/09
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On 14/04/2009, at 14:16, Barry Schwartz wrote:

1. we are working on.

:)

Barry Schwartz

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Apr 14, 2009, 9:11:12 AM4/14/09
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Actually, Joel is working on this.  In fact, Joel has been revamping all the siddur text for this nusach.  When he is done, we should all buy him a new iPhone. :)

Joel Hakoune

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Apr 14, 2009, 9:33:44 AM4/14/09
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Thanks Barry, gr8 idea, i'm spending a lot of time on this. It will take some time, though, i'm doing the update gradually.
I really hope the users will like it :)

Barry Schwartz

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Apr 14, 2009, 9:41:24 AM4/14/09
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Yup, hope they appreciate your hard work. :)

KosherJava

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Apr 14, 2009, 1:07:13 PM4/14/09
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Barry, Ronnie,
The additions In the KosherJava zmanim API mentioned by Victor were
the ones added in v1.1 (see http://www.kosherjava.com ), The specific
zmanim Victor is referring to are the ones with method names of
AteretTorah in the method names. These are the ones used by the Syrian
community using the psak of Chacham Yosef Harari-Raful. Please keep in
mind that these methods do not cover all zmanim (intentionally) and
are not used by all Sepharadim. The methods include:

getSofZmanShmaAteretTorah()
getSofZmanTfilahAteretTorah()
getMinchaGedolaAteretTorah()
getMinchaKetanaAteretTorah()
getPlagHaminchaAteretTorah()
getShaahZmanisAteretTorah()
getTzaisAteretTorah() //not used for end of Shabbos typically
setAteretTorahSunsetOffset(double ateretTorahSunsetOffset) //used to
change default 40 to 25 for Israel

The Syrian community calculates alos hashachar as 1/10th of the
sunrise/sunset day that has always been present in the API method of:
getAlos72Zmanis()

For additional info see the documentation at http://www.kosherjava.com/zmanim/docs/api/

The minhag for misheyakir (talis/tefilin) varies from one Syrian shul
to another and typically uses an offset of 6, 8 or 18 minutes after
alos, but this zman is intentionally left off Syrian calendars with
the intent that a Rabbi should be asked.

Please contact me offline for additional information if needed.

One item that I would like to stress is the need for the list of
zmanim to be configurable. Let the user select the default zmanim that
they want to see by default from a long list of optional zmanim,
ideally with an option to press a button to see "ALL" zmanim. This
will go a long way in resolving issues that came up earlier such as
those by people who wanted the 72 minute Rabainu Tam zman as opposed
to the 16.1 degree one etc...

A Gutten Moed

Barry Schwartz

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Apr 14, 2009, 1:16:49 PM4/14/09
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Thank you for this added information.
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