I'm not sure about the LS9, but if it's like the 01v96 there's a setup
screen where you set which midi commands you want it to respond to,
and program changes are separate from CC messages.I've been beating my head against this with my 01v96v2 last week to
set up iPad control of it (via touch osc on the iPad and Pure Data on
the mac) which is working great, finally ;)Hope that helps!Andy
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> bou...@lists.figure53.com] On Behalf Of John Leonard
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 9:44 AM
> To: Discussion and support for QLab users.
> Subject: [QLab] Help on Yamaha LS9 Control Change for fader levels?
>
> Can someone with an LS9 let me in on the secret of controlling
> individual fader levels and/or channel-on/off with CC messages from
> QLab? I have MIDI set up and working perfectly for program changes and
> all that's fine. I've checked that the interface is sending the correct
> MIDI messages, but the LS9 does nothing but sit there and look smug. I
> suspect that I have something wrong in the MIDI set-up page, or
> possibly the control change mapping (for instance, what do the
> designations Fader H and Fader L mean?) The manual is not particularly
> helpful on this matter and I'm getting nowhere fast. Correction - I'm
> getting nowhere slowly.
>
John,The LS9 has a few different ways of working. There is a NRPN mode, which
will use Non-Registered Parameter Numbers (if memory serves that is what
that stands for, but don't quote me). I typically use this mode as you then
don't have to deal with assigning functions to MIDI CC numbers. The down
side then is that every button push and fader move will have 3 or more
various MIDI CC messages, so the number of MIDI commands grows very quickly.
The other downside is that I have found that if I send multiple commands
simultaneously, it's easy for the LS9 or M7 (they both work the same way
FYI) to get confused, since part of what those 3 messages send is which
control you are trying to wiggle via remote. This has worked OK for me most
days and keeps the set ups in the LS9 as simple as possible. But I
obviously also use SFX most days and we can capture messages in SFX, so it
makes it a tad easier. (Forgive me if QLab has this feature now, not trying
to cause a flame war) So you could capture the commands for the various
controls you like and then put them into QLab by hand. You would just need
to build several individual commands when moving multiple parameters at once
and then use an Auto Continue in Qlab to link them together. You can send
them to the console very fast, just not simultaneously.The other mode, which it sounds like you are trying to use requires that you
tell the LS9 to use the MIDI CC map or table as they call it. In the basic
MIDI set up page, you'll need to set it to Table rather than NRPN, under
Control Change. Then once you do that you can use that table to set which
parameter you want to control. Just keep in mind that Yamaha has several of
the MIDI CC numbers blocked out (I suspect for the NRPN routing) so you
don't even get 128 MIDI controls this way. It's a hassle to say the least.The Fader H and Fader L part is because they allow you to use two MIDI CC to
control a fader for greater than 8 bit resolution. I'm not entirely sure
what the resolution is that it allows, I suspect it's probably 12 bits, but
that's purely a guess. I think (again, don't quote me, as I rarely if ever
use this mode) if you send the console just a Fader H command, it will
respond. H is for High and L is for Low, or think of it more like the MSB
and LSB MIDI commands of days past. High and Low resolution I think. I would set up the mapping the way you want it and then try to use something
to capture some of the commands that the console is spitting out. That will
probably let you see what it needs to receive in order for it to work.Hope that helps.Richard B. Ingraham
RBI Computers and Audio
When trying to use it with the keyboard, the MacBook is recognizing the midi interface (I can see it in the "Midi Studio" screen, but it does not recognize the audio interface, that means, I am able to control VST, exchange midi signals, but neither the operating system nor the DAW is recognizing the audio interface.
Note 1: I already tested using the original keyboard cable + USB HUB, as well as I bought a new USB-B to USB-C cable, connecting directly to the Macbook and the result was the same. There was no difference.
I recently purchased a Yamaha Clavinova CSP-275 digital piano that comes with the Stream Lights function. I've been trying to import a song (piano only song) into the piano for practice purposes. While trying to use the "audio to score" function, I only got some chords and the melody was missing.
However, I have encountered one final challenge: All the notes in my song are for the right hand. This means I can't practice my left hand or right hand separately. I understand that MIDI files have multiple channels, which I believe might differ from tracks. I assume that perhaps the first channel is for the right hand and the second for the left, but I'm not entirely sure.
Could anyone provide an example of a MIDI file or an explanation on how to separate the two hands in a MIDI composition, specifically for the Yamaha Clavinova CSP models with the Stream Lights function ?
My initial intuition about the two channels was correct. After diving into it further, I found that the first channel typically represents the right hand and the second channel represents the left hand in many MIDI compositions for piano.
Using this understanding, I was able to successfully split my MIDI file into two distinct channels for separate hand practice. For those looking to achieve the same, it might be helpful to use MIDI editing software to visually confirm and adjust channels as needed.
Here's the solution to transform your MIDI files to be able to split the two hands properly. The midi files I used were from Musecore, which have already the split information for the two hands but that the Smart Pianist app doesn't recognize.
> Ok, I have the MacPro connected to the Edirol UM-3EX Midi Usb
> interface. That is connected to the Ls9 from the second out port on
> the device to the input on the Ls9. The Ls9 is expecting midi files
> on channel 1, i left it on the default settings. In the program
> change menu on the ls9 i have 001 and 002 set as recalling scenes 1
> and 2. From Qlab i can't remember how many ways i tried firing MSC
> and Midi Sys-ex cues with differient combinations of numbers etc. I
> read somewhere to try going up and number and down a number also for
> the midi number to see if that worked, but it didnt. The Ls9 says it
> is receiving midi messages because the small green midi box lights up
> on the top of the screen when i try to send it a command.
>>
Sounds like your patch is set up correctly in Qlab if the Yamahammer is
seeing MIDI.SO, open a MIDI cue, go to the MIDI Message tab, verify your patch is
correct, then select Program Change in the Command drop down.
You should be on Channel 1, then enter the program number for your program
change. It should be 1 and 2 for your example, though as we've seen it might
be 0 and 1 in some cases.Dave Tosti-Lane
On SaturdayMar/6,SaturdayMar/6:922 AM 9:22 AM, "Onslaught"
The second line was in response to my asking about how to take a screen shot. Notice that I asked about M8X and the reply said 'MONTAGE M. I presume that means that all three M models will support MIDI 2.0
The most recent MIDI 2.0 update was just in June of this year and is now out of NDA restriction. This is MicroSoft's announcement that they are opening their repository to the public now that the NDA has ended:
-music-dev/hello-midi-2-0-were-opening-the-repo/
I think we have good reasons to be optimistic, the MIDI 2 specifications were made public very recently. The hardware is already here, the OS implementations almost there (both Apple and Microsoft are working on it, with a planned first release for Windows by the end of the year). The delayed Cubase 13 apparently already feature MIDI 2, and other DAWs already have it or will support it on following releases.
I just wanted Montage M to be at least MIDI 2 capable, as I plan to use it for many years to come. That 8 knobs + secondary screen section is perfect for automapping, very similar to how the new NI Kontrol MK3 and the soon to be released Korg Keystage will implement it. I am more excited about device/VST auto-discovery, so I hope the implementation in Montage M will feature it - even if we have to wait a few more months.
Not only pots can't jump to new values (and switching parameters is one of the main features of this keyboard); but MIDI 2 has now a resolution of 4 billion steps, and Korg decided to compress it in the small travel of a potentiometer knob...?
A super cheap YME-8 arrived at my doorstep today. I ordered it after looking for Midi Mergers and gathering some info about this Unit.
Syntaur as well as Polynominal advertise that these units do not only deliver a thru signal but also a merge signal.
-yme8/yamaha-yme8.html
Upon investigation the switches on the devices act as one ways and thus I cannot create a merge signal. Anyone that owns a YME that can tell me where I went wrong or is there just some false information floating around the web?
Just got a Yamaha MD-BT01 BT midi adapter. Plugged it into my synth, downloaded the utility app to my iPad: -bt01-ud-bt01-utility/id1063901794
Despite the utility app recognizes the adapter and could update its firmware as well with no problem, the adapter simply does not show up in the available bluetooth devices list in the BT settings menu.
My android phone can see it, my iPad can not...
Any idea?