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Submitted by Jacky Foo on Wed, 02/05/2007 - 19:59.

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Dear Jackson and Henry

In your paper about livelihoods in Bamendjo which has a high
population density and therefore limitations to availability of land,
you wrote that farmers cultivate the same small piece of land for many
years without fallowing.

You also wrote
>Eleveurs Agriculteurs Solidaires de Bamboutous, are fattening
>groups. Several members of this group now generate substantial
>income from the sale of pigs for slaughtering as well as from
>selling any excess crop produce such as maize, cocoyam,
>potatoes and vegetables produced using pig manure as
>fertiliser.

Q: do you have any information on the sizes of their lands.

Does the size of the farm land (for crop production) influence the
selection process for farmers ?

Do you have any farmer that does only fattening of pigs and do not
have any land for growing crops ?

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Answers
 
Q1: Farm land ranges from 0.25ha to 5ha. But it is worth mentioning that farm lands are getting more less smaller and/or it is becoming more and more difficult to obtain new lands.
 
Q2: Yes it does, the main contribution of an assisted farmer is enough land without which expansion will be difficult. Farmers must posses enough land to costruct their pig sty and cultivate some vegetable and crops.
 
Q3: No as the intergartion approach do not allow for that
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size of farms
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jackkson ntapi wrote: (03-May-2007)


>Farm land ranges from 0.25ha to 5ha.

A farm size of 2500 m2 (0.25 ha) isnt small since one could still do
very much on that piece of land, esp. with intensive vegetable
cultivation.

Q: do you have any landscape pictures of the farm or pictures showing
its activities ?

Q: how many pigs does this 0.25 ha farm have ?

Q: when did s/he start as a recepient of the Heifer Intl program ?

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Q1: Yes one can do a lot  on a  0.25ha of  land but here we are dealing with soils that have been depleted over the years due to poor cultivation techniques and abusive use of chemical fertilizers. The objective is to encourage farmers to rebuild their soils so that they can practice intensive vegetable and crop production in a way that will not compromise the preservation of the soil's fertility. 
Q2: I will insert a picture gallery next week of as many features as possible of the different farms.
Q3: In this group the farmers all have a uniform herd size and the number of pigs per farm is increased uniformly as the group gains more capacity to market a larger number of animals. The farmers were given 4 piglets each in 2004 and now having 6 animals per farm.
Q4: Assistance for all  farmers  in this group started in 2004

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In Vietnam, and soon in Sierra Leone and Uganda, we are working with local farmers and even urban residents to make use of their household garbage, human manure, animal waste, food processing waste and other organic materials. We have encouraged the feeding of insect larvae, Hermatia illucens, with great success.
 
It is becoming irresponsible to discard any material suitable for feeding the larvae. In this way significant amounts of livestock protein, fuel and fertilizer have been generated at little expense to the local population. Besides providing a significant source of clean protein and fat it also cleans up the local environment.  We have even had good experience providing human sanitation facilities using the larvae to consume the solids and become fish feed themselves.
 
Other organic material not fed to the larvae for whatever reason might be fermented anaerobically to produce a highly effective soil amendment.  The results of the fermentation are both solids and liquid. The liquid is essentially an amino acid soup for plant and animal nutrition. The solids are very good additives to vermiculture systems and as feed supplements to livestock.  We have used the liquid fraction to replace water for beef calves and hogs with good success in growth and feed conversion as well as improved herd health.
 
Composting is still a viable alternative, of course, even static piles with passive aeration.
 
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Dear Cornelius,


I am interested in knowing when your work with local
farmers and urban residents in Uganda would.

Regards,

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farmer with 0.25 ha farm
Submitted by Jacky Foo on Sat, 05/05/2007 - 23:33.
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JF>Q3: how many pigs does this 0.25 ha farm have ?

Jackson responded:


>In this group the farmers all have a uniform herd size
>and the number of pigs per farm is increased uniformly
>as the group gains more capacity to market a larger
>number of animals. The farmers were given 4 piglets
>each in 2004 and now having 6 animals per farm.

As I understand, the farmer with 0.25 ha farm is having 6 pigs now and
s/he (? or name) started the operation in 2004.

I would expect that the farmer would have more than 6 pigs if s/he
started with 4 piglets in 2004 (unless s/he has given some away in the
"pass on the gift" system and sold some also).

Could we get have details on the history of her pig population by this
farmer ?

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measurement in crop yields due to compost from pig
Submitted by Jacky Foo on Sat, 05/05/2007 - 23:58.
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Jackson's response to the question:
JF>Q3: What were their applications rates, the number of pigs
JF>they had andthe area of maize under cultivation.
>
> Manure was applied once, just before planting. Data was
> collected last year when farmers had 5 pigs each of 5 to 6
> months of age. The surface area under maize cultivation
> ranged from 500 sqaure metres to 1ha. It will be wrong to
> make conclusions on the number of pigs per unit area of
>maize crop because some farmers with large maize farms
> purchased additional manure while others used part of
>their manure to cultivate other vegetables.

Q: is raw manure applied directly on to maize field or is it composted
first ?

Regarding the application rates, let me rephrase my question with a
scenario.

Scenario:
I have 1 ha of maize field and I am one of the group farmers. I have
been taught how to make compost from my pig manure. I have now 6 pigs.
Assuming that maize is grown once a year only,

Q: how much compost can I get from my 6 pigs in a year.
Q: if I apply all the compost that I have prepared, what would be the
estimated yield from my 1 ha maize field (compared to if I do not
fertilse)
Q: how much compost does Heifer Intl recommend for application for 1
ha maize.

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Uganda: wastes to insect larvae of Hermatia illucens
Submitted by Jacky Foo on Sun, 06/05/2007 - 00:29.
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Hi Charles,

good to hear from you.

Cornelius wrote:
>In Vietnam, and soon in Sierra Leone and Uganda, we are
>working with local farmers and even urban residents to make
>use of their household garbage, human manure, animal waste,
>food processing waste and other organic materials. We have
>encouraged the feeding of insect larvae, Hermatia illucens,
>with great success.

I think it was in 2005 when I asked Paul O if he could send me a
couple of his BSF larvae buckets to Nairobi so that I could arrange a
demonstration there (esp. at the Mayors Meeting for 7 cities). That
did not happen. However I am pleased to hear that it may happen soon
in Uganda.

Neal:
have you identified the site in Uganda for your project ?

As you may know, I was in Kenya in March 2007 for a feasibility study.
The outcome is that I have submitted 2 grant applications and
hopefully I can return to Kenya (2008) to continue some work on rabbit
production and vegetable production using liquid fertiliser from urine
and cow manure.

I hope by 2008 you will have some cultivation of BSF larvae in Uganda.

How do you plan to use the residue from the BSF larvae cultivation ?

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In a message dated 5/5/2007 11:07:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, twesi...@yahoo.com writes:
Thanks for the information on your future plans in
Uganda.They are indeed timely and relevant to Uganda's
development plans. I am particularly interested in the
urban  sanitation project based on a similar economic
and logistical model now being
used successfully in Vietnam.Could you kindly provide
more information on this model?
Dr. Paul Olivier has moved his residence to Dalat, Vietnam partly to work out the urban sanitation program. He has designed a couple of pieces that provide convenient ways to implement this.
 
Paul has a small plastic tub he has designed especially for organic waste disposal in homes and restaurants.  It is to be used with Black Soldier Fly technology.  Here are some other links on the same topic.
 
 (1) Paul Olivier (USA). The Bio-Conversion of Putrescent Waste
http://www.esrla.com/brasil/frame.htm
Or
http://www.esrla.com/pdf/Brazil.pdf

(2) Kevin Warburton & Vivienne Hallman (Australia). Processing of
organic materials by the soldier fly, Hermetia illicens
http://www.rirdc.gov.au/reports/Ras/01-174.pdf
Page 118-129

(3) Craig Sheppard (USA). Black Soldier Fly and Others for Value-Added
Manure Management
Abstract: http://nespal.cpes.peachnet.edu/sustain/fly2.asp
Full paper: http://nespal.cpes.peachnet.edu/sustain/ibs_conf.pdf

(4) Tran Tan Viet (Vietnam). Mass Production of Insect larvae
http://www.esrla.com/tran/index.htm
(under construction)
 
We also work with Paul on a urine diverting toilet which will allow Black Soldier Fly technology to consume the solids from human manure. In this way we can provide municipal sanitation opportunities for any size village or city.  We couple this project with another that collects organic material commercially and deposits into Black Soldier Fly feeding troughs to produce the larvae on a larger scale.
 
What has developed is a market for organic waste material. It is no longer disposed of, it is sold.  By coordinating this with other recycling projects locally we can virtually eliminate materials going to a municipal landfill.  It is largely a matter of logistical coordination.
 
If you like, we can discuss the situation for woody biomass to be used as fuel in small gasification units to provide electrical power, distilled water, and heat energy for home owners, small businesses and farms.
 
Regards,
 
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We are working with a Ugandan living in Canada to coordinate a project with his associate in Uganda. The local contact is fairly large in poultry processing and in the vanilla trade.
 
He has organized about 5000 farm families to produce and harvest vanilla on a small scale for his business. They consolidate their harvests and together produce a significant volume.
 
We will use these same farmers, or some like them, to process organic waste using Black Soldier Fly technology. The larvae will be collected by the farmers and consolidated using the same system as the vanilla. They will be processed at the poultry plant, or nearby, into protein and fat. Some of each will be returned to the farmers to use for livestock feed and fuel.  (Our urban sanitation project is based on a similar economic and logistical model now being used successfully in Vietnam.)
 
Rural growth of Jatropha will be harvested, transported and processed in the same system. For now the wild Jatropha will be our emphasis but soon we hope to have a plan to plant fallow ground in Jatropha to establish a biofuel industry.  Our work in Ghana, for example, is resulting in 1 million hectares of Jatropha being planted by a British company. This project will employ about 10,000 rural residents in Ghana in more or less permanent jobs.
 
We are also discussing with an investment company the potential to harvest the water weeds currently growing in such profusion in Lake Victoria. We previously had a project in Kenya to harvest about 400 tons per day of the water weeds from the lake but the government there become an impediment to the project and we pulled out leaving our equipment behind.  Our plan was to anaerobically ferment the harvested weeds to produce electricity. We had a plan to eventually produce about 40MW of electrical power to supply to the grid.  This same plant may work well in Uganda.
 
Regards,
 
Cornelius Van Milligen
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Uganda: wastes to insect larvae of Hermatia illucens

Submitted by Jacky Foo on Sun, 06/05/2007 - 08:06.
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Jacky asked Neal:


>have you identified the site in Uganda for your project ?

I missed your message which provided an answer to my question.

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>Hermatia illucens
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>We are working with a Ugandan living in Canada to coordinate a
> project with his associate in Uganda. The local contact is
> fairly large in poultry processing and in the vanilla trade.
>
>He has organized about 5000 farm families to produce and
>harvest vanilla on a small scale for his business. They
> consolidate their harvests and together produce a significant
>volume.
>
>We will use these same farmers, or some like them, to process
>organic waste using Black Soldier Fly technology. The larvae
>will be collected by the farmers and consolidated using the
>same system as the vanilla. They will be processed at the
>poultry plant, or nearby, into protein and fat. Some of each
>will be returned to the farmers to use for livestock feed and
>fuel.

sounds like a good system for network group business.

When I was in Uganda, I had a friend who had a 10 ha farm. He was also
had a network group for producing vanilla and integrating it with
Jatropha which is used as the support plant for vanilla.

Poultry processing as well as fish processing factories would be great
spots for BSF larvae production.

Heifer Intl basically also have such network groups.

Q: Could your approach be used by Jackson and Heifer Intl ?

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Dear Cornelius,

I have taken a quick look at your website and I do
realise that there is a lot we can do together in
Uganda.

I was recently in USA from March 24-April 21,2007. I
visited 7 cities( Washington, Boston, Portland
Oregon,Dallas, Plano, New Orleans, and Miami).In this
trip we focussed on "Urban Environmental Issues". I
also took time to study trends of a general nature in
USA(culture, history,politics,agriculture, environment
and economy).

When I returned to Uganda it was time to submit
funding proposals in different windows(A,B,& C).All
the three windows focuss on "Science and Technology
Innovations". Participants are from Ugandan
Universities and Research Institutions, but there is
room for partnerships with private firms/sector which
is very much encouraged. The deadline for concept
notes(5pages)for these proposals is very soon(May 22,
2007).

Window A is for a Team of senior researchers with a
good truck of managing grant funds and backed by
publications in International Journals. Window B is
for developing new courses or upgrading current
courses. While Window C involves forming partnership
with private secator/firms in developming
innovations/technologies.

This is a joint project between World Bank and
Government of Uganda which is implemented by the
Uganda National Council for Science and Technology.Let
me know if you have quick ideas we can work on.


Charles K.Twesigye


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Dear Jacky,


Uganda is implementing a Millenium Science
Initiative(MSI) project which is under a loan from
World Bank. A call for proposals has been sent to
Universities in Uganda but there is room for forming
partnerships with private firms. I have attended one
of their training workshops at Imperial Resort Hotel
in Entebbe.It will be highly competitive and we need
good novel ideas to go through.

The deadline for concept notes is also too soon. The
call was made when I was away in USA and I have very
litle time to respond with pressure of exams
underway.Any good ideas?


Charles K.Twesigye

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Uganda: developing ideas into proposals
Submitted by Jacky Foo on Sun, 06/05/2007 - 11:02.
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Charles T wrote:
>Uganda is implementing a Millenium Science Initiative(MSI)

>project .... A call for proposals has been sent to


>Universities in Uganda but there is room for forming

>partnerships with private firms......
>The deadline for concept notes is also too soon. .....
>Any good ideas?

A consortium of partners from the academic, private (local and abraod)
as well as civil society (local and international) will always attract
decision makers. In this context, IOBB should be named and there are
IOBB members who may wish to be involved.

Cornelius represent the private sector but is also an IOBB member. So
he has two hats and he could choose to use any one of them (or both).

If the work is not volunteer work (as I am already overloaded with
that) and funding could be allocated, I am happy to join. My
experience is very much like Cornelius except that I have never
represented the private sector before.

I still believe that the applications of integrated biosystems is key
to the development of sustainable biosystems and income generation.
Their outcomes contribute to the process of achieving the millennium
development goals. If we are able to put value to under-utilised
resources, then products and productive jobs will be created.

Charles Twesigye

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Dear Jacky,


This is not volunteer work.Funds would be allocated to
all project activities, including counsultancy work.
What is needed are good concept notes whose deadline
is May 22, 2007. Accepted concept notes will be funded
for writing full proposals. Proposals will be reviewed
locally and internationally.


Charles K.Twesigye


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Jacky we are very excited to be working with this group in Uganda. If Heifer, or any other group, wanted to conduct similar work we would just as excited to work with them.
 
The project we have so far is taking advantage of the symbiotic relationship between vanilla and Jatropha by inserting BSF into the mix.  Since the logistics and coordination have already been established the additional project is much easier to integrate.
 
I replied in a private email to Dr. Twesigye the name of our local contact in Uganda. I am reluctant to publish it more publicly without his permission since he is a businessman and already has significant demands on his time and resources.
 
You are correct that meat processing factories would be very good opportunities for BSF but they also present other opportunities. The fermentation of offal via lactic acid bacteria can provide a much needed soil amendment that has shown very good results in our work in the USA and Nicaragua.  It is a simple technology which can be employed even in remote areas.  In this way the offal does not become food for the wildlife only.  BSF can follow up on the fermentation to process any residue and still be a significant project.
 
Cornelius A. Van Milligen
Kentucky Enrichment Inc
 
sounds like a good system for network group business.

When I was in Uganda, I had a friend who had a 10 ha farm. He was also
had a network group for producing vanilla and integrating it with
Jatropha which is used as the support plant for vanilla.

Poultry processing as well as fish processing factories would be great
spots for BSF larvae production.

Heifer Intl basically also have such network groups.

Q: Could your approach be used by Jackson and Heifer Intl ?

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This farmer like other farmers in the project in Bamendjo are doing fattening and are using the "All in -All out" method. Thus the farmers fatten a batch, sell all and then restock with piglets from other groups doing breeding. The rather slow increase in batch herd can be attributed to the fact that these farmers are poor people and have many livelihood hood issues to improve on. Also the feed supply as assistance from Heifer Project reduces across the years and the farmer has to contribute to the development of the group's revolving fund. With these responsibilities the farmers can only afford for an average increase of 1 pig per year. We can give them reason as they are balancing their growth with capital availability and the desire to improve their lives but more importantly farmers know they need better penetrance of the formal markets to be able to increase batch herd size substantially. Rate of growth of batch herd is expected to increase as farmers cut down production cost (through on-farm feed production), stabilizes deficit in living standards (thus can re-invest more from the sales of pigs back into the project) and have more understanding and penetration of the pig market.

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Some farmers still use raw manure because of the lack of time to embark on compost production but Heifer recommends compost making because of its numerous advantages over raw manure. 
Q1: We are still to measure the quantity of compost a farmer can produce per year. But all the farmers are still to embrace the idea of transforming their manure into compost and those who ready adopted the technique are still to intensify the practice. We use values obtained in research stations which might not be compatible with field realities
Q2: In this region soils are very variable usually due to the level of depletion of soil structure and composition. Thus we cannot easily transcribe information from elsewhere to the region and onsite information are not available. The need to collect base line information from farmers already using compost is important to make forecast and give advice on expected results to new farmers. With limited man power we have been collecting only gross increases in maize production. We are already working with a student to experiment on the use of compost in maize production in different regions.  
Q3: For now farmers don't produce and rarely supply the required quantity to the soil but the guide of puting 2-3kg per square metre is given
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While it may be of only marginal significance in the cases cited thus far, we have had very good results from feeding hog manure to ruminants. We usually process the manure solids to ensure pathogen reduction but this does not always take place.
 
Cattle, goats, and to a lesser degree, sheep, can utilize the manure solids as a highly nutritious feed supplement.  Sheep are sensitive to copper which sometimes is used in hog operations. We have had some very good results with the raw manure solids fed to cattle although we don't recommend it if a processing option is available.
 
Vietnamese and other SE Asian demonstrations have also shown the productivity of hog manure solids as a supplemental feed for fish, especially Tilapia and shrimp. The nutrient rich material can also be used in a green water system to produce duckweed, algae and other water plants to clean the water and provide feed material for livestock and fish.  This can be done on a very small scale or any larger size for which water capacity is available. It has the additional benefit of phytoremediation of the liquids in the manure stream.
 
These techniques offer additional income opportunities for hog farmers and may increase the sustainability of hog farming.
 
Cornelius A. Van Milligen
Kentucky Enrichment Inc

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Dear Jackson
a response from you was:
JN> Manure was applied once, just before planting.

On May 7, 4:12 pm, jackkson ntapi <jacksonnt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Some farmers still use raw manure because of the lack of time to embark on compost
> production but Heifer recommends compost making because of its numerous advantages
>over raw manure.

You wrote that the project started in 2004

So I dont understand why there is a lack of time for the 10 selected
farmers to embark on compost production.

regards
jacky

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Dear Jackson

Jacky asked
>Q1: Could you provide info on the yields before application
>and after application of compost ?

On May 7, 4:12 pm, jackkson ntapi responded:


> With limited man power we have been collecting only gross increases in maize
>production. We are already working with a student to experiment on the use of
>compost in maize production in different regions.

Jackson wrote in 04-May-2007:
>In Heifer we train farmers on record keeping and encourage them to keep records
>on all their farming activities be it production (crops, vegetables, pigs and other
>livestock kept by the family), economic (sales and costs), animal health, visits etc.
>that could enable a comprehensive follow-up of progress made. This has been very
> important for the farmers and Heifer during project evaluation and has been a
>useful tool in the decision making process.

I did not understand the "limted man power" issue since the farmers
are trained (in 2004) to keep their records (as indicated above).

So it should be easy to compare records of yield of maize a 2004, 2005
and 2006 for both net gain as well as the gross data. With records
from the farmers, each farmer should be able to calculate if there is
an improvement of yield of maize from the start of the Heifer
project.

regards
jacky


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May 9, 2007, 1:47:36 PM5/9/07
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Yes the farmers keep production record and know the increase in maize production as a result of the use of compost and that is why more and more of them are adopting the technique. I certainly thought i gave this answer when a participant asked to know the total quantity of compost produced, the quantity applied per unit area of land and to relate it to the productivity and to deduce the number of pig per ha of maize farm. Farmers will not have time to make these measurements as it demands quite some effort. Please if i did respond to this answer this way then there was a mix up.
 
I will take an individual farmer by name Powa Joseph
 
Year (period in project cycle)
Quantity of maize produced
Successive annual % increase in production
2004 (before project starts)
300 kg
/
2005 (1 year in project)
600Kg
100%
2006 (2 year of project)
1080Kg
80%
 
 
 
 
Powa Joseph is a farmer who is 62years of age. He is a notable in his community but have a very small family size, as all his children are grown ups and are living out of the village. He hadn’t any incentive in cultivating a large piece of land (productivity was discouraging) but with the type of increment he has experienced on the same small piece of land with the use of manure, he intends to increase the surface area on which he is cultivating  maize this planting season.
 
I will make effort tomorrow to provide progress in one particular farm in a detailed manner. Right now my desk is full with unfinished tasks.

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May 10, 2007, 1:38:51 AM5/10/07
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On 09/05/07, jackkson ntapi <jackso...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I will take an individual farmer by name Powa Joseph  
Year (period in project cycle)
Quantity of maize produced
Successive annual % increase in production
2004 (before project starts)
300 kg
/
2005 (1 year in project)
600Kg
100%
2006 (2 year of project)
1080Kg
80%
>
>Powa Joseph is a farmer who is 62years of age....... all his children are grown ups
>and are living out of the village. He hadn't any incentive in cultivating a large piece
>of land (productivity was discouraging) but with the type of increment he has
>experienced on the same small piece of land with the use of manure,
>he intends to increase the surface area on which he is cultivating  maize this
>planting season

Dear Jackson
Many thanks for the useful information.

For an elderly person and one who manages a small piece of land, in order to reduce work load and to encourage light work, I would suggest a daily routine to bury fresh pig manure in a row between the lines of growing maize crop. This will also encourage vermicompost and growing maize can also benefit immediately.

Q: for the quantity of maize produced by Powa Joseph, what is the yield if expressed in terms of  kg per ha ?

A three fold increase of maize is very impressive (due to the application of manaure from 4-6 pigs ) and seems like
Powa Joseph was getting a very low yield of maize in 2004 per unit land.

+++++++

Jacky Foo

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On May 6, 12:26 pm, Charles Twesigye <twesigy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This is not volunteer work.Funds would be allocated to
> all project activities, including counsultancy work.
> What is needed are good concept notes whose deadline
> is May 22, 2007. Accepted concept notes will be funded
> for writing full proposals. Proposals will be reviewed
> locally and internationally.

I have been caught up with other offline engagements and have not been
able to respond to this.

We should work closely with Cornelius so that we focus at one
project.

Neal:
(i) have you written anything for Charles ? (send me a copy)
(ii) I can link project to the interests of the City Abattoir and the
Kampala City Council. These partnerships could strengthen the
proposal. We could also include the "network group" too since they are
the sinks for the use of the by-products from bio-conversion of
organic wastes.

regards
jacky
offline: Friday 11th May.

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May 10, 2007, 12:16:37 PM5/10/07
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You cannot imagine how busy a small farmer can be (most are involved in many activities: from farm work to petit business, to funerals, cultural events etc...), so with new approaches that necessitates some investment of time and labour we look up to the pilot farmers to lead. Once they can produce the result in their farms then the others will follow.
Jacky Foo <jack...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Jackson
a response from you was:
JN> Manure was applied once, just before planting.

On May 7, 4:12 pm, jackkson ntapi wrote:
>Some farmers still use raw manure because of the lack of time to embark on compost
> production but Heifer recommends compost making because of its numerous advantages
>over raw manure.

You wrote that the project started in 2004

So I dont understand why there is a lack of time for the 10 selected
farmers to embark on compost production.

regards
jacky


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May 10, 2007, 12:21:27 PM5/10/07
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For the pictures i want to extend my condolences to all participants as the pictures i had were stock in my digital camara that got bad. I was expecting to get some pictures last weekend but was stock in the office with an urgent project proposal to complete. I have borrowed a camara and will get good pictures latest tomorrow evening (as i need to go down to the field in the morning). Once more please be patient with me.
Regards
Jackson
Jacky Foo <jack...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Jackson
a response from you was:
JN> Manure was applied once, just before planting.

On May 7, 4:12 pm, jackkson ntapi wrote:
>Some farmers still use raw manure because of the lack of time to embark on compost
> production but Heifer recommends compost making because of its numerous advantages
>over raw manure.

You wrote that the project started in 2004

So I dont understand why there is a lack of time for the 10 selected
farmers to embark on compost production.

regards
jacky



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May 12, 2007, 12:40:14 AM5/12/07
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Jacky,

I have never been sure whether we have BSF in Uganda.
Did you check your information with any entomologist
in Uganda?

I am going to follow this up with entomologists
on Monday so that we know where we are starting from.

Regards,
Charles


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May 12, 2007, 7:27:29 AM5/12/07
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Hi dear,
Q1: Since Powa Joeseph did not increase his maize farm significantly accross the 3 years we shall take the average of 0.2ha to evaluate production per unit area and then extrapolate for a hectar.
Year                             Production                      Production per ha
2004-------------------------------300kg   -----------------------1500kg
2005-------------------------------600kg--------------------------3000kg
2006------------------------------1080kg-------------------------5400kg
 
Q2: Yes very low, barely enough to feed his small family staying with him in the village. Powa has increased his maize farm and has also introduced sweet potato this planting season. His decision although guided by his desire to cut down cost of feeding his pig, was motivated by the relative increase in harvest (with little or no cost) when he uses manure.
When i went for pictures yesterday i did not meet him at home as he was out to a farm he established a little far from his home (could not get pictures for potato as farmers can only plant this far from home since they won't endeavour to provide space in backyard gardens that are usually very nourished with manure and wood ash and provides most of the fresh foods and vegetables the family consumes)
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May 12, 2007, 7:54:29 AM5/12/07
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GUIDELINES FOR PICTURES PROVIDED
 
Pic 001: A farmer in her pigsty showing the basic materials she is using for feeders and drinkers
Pic 002: Shows the multicross breed and a herd in Bamendjo increased from 6 last year to 7 this year. Piglest are 3 months 2 weeks old. The piglets were bought when they were 2 months 1 week old
Pic 003 and 004: Example of a simple compost made by farmers. some farmers do pit composting
Pic 007: showing a farmer infront of her suspended pigsty
Pic 008: Farmer in garden near homestead containing an intercrop of maize and beans. Very restricted  and valued area (home gardens) sweet potato could not find a place and are planted in far away farms. I could not get there because it was raining heavilly.
Pic 010: A training program in another group (a new group) 40 km from Bamendjo from where i left to get pictures at Bamendjo 


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GUIDELINES FOR PICTURES PROVIDED
 
Pic 001: A farmer in her pigsty showing the basic materials she is using for feeders and drinkers
Pic 002: Shows the multicross breed and a herd in Bamendjo increased from 6 last year to 7 this year. Piglest are 3 months 2 weeks old. The piglets were bought when they were 2 months 1 week old
Pic 003 and 004: Example of a simple compost made by farmers. some farmers do pit composting
Pic 007: showing a farmer infront of her suspended pigsty
Pic 008: Farmer in garden near homestead containing an intercrop of maize and beans. Very restricted  and valued area (home gardens) sweet potato could not find a place and are planted in far away farms. I could not get there because it was raining heavilly.
Pic 010: A training program in another group (a new group) 40 km from Bamendjo from where i left to get pictures at Bamendjo 


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