rabbit-fish integrated system

[Jacky Foo]

Dear Friends

I have joined an ARC Contest to respond to the call for ideas that
address fundamental problems of agricultural development and rural
poverty in Sub-Saharan Africa; and especially women, the rural poor
and the needs of rural communities. My project is in Kenya and
entitled : "The Ndekero Challenge: A Systems Approach for Rabbit
Keeping by a Rural Community in Partnership with a Commercial Rabbit
Farm"

ARC will pick 40 projects (out of hundreds) based on popularity voting
and forward them to a panel of judges who will decide on 1 for the
grand prize of 20,000 US$. To be short-listed, I need your votes.
Please help.

Instructions on how to vote is in
http://www.globetree.org/africa/rabbit-net/arc-endorse.htm

The Ndekero Challenge currently has two components.

(A) The first component is the establishment of a rabbit colony
farm and integrated it with fish farming.
This is the Phase 2 project of a project funded by the Swedish
Catholic Church
See Phase 1 in
http://www.globetree.org/africa/ndekero/
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2111&id=100000175854706
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=113672&id=600466082.

The Phase 2 farm will produce 1200 kg of rabbit meat and 1500 kg of
fish per year. Income will provide part-time employment to 10 poor
parents of school children with high drop-out risks. See schematic
diagram for farm in
http://www.globetree.org/africa/ndekero/ibs-ndekero-ws.jpg

(B) The ARC component is for the rural community and proposes an approach
where 50 families can raise rabbits and partner with the colony farm.

PLEASE VOTE........thanks

regards
jacky
http://www.globetree.org/africa/rabbit-net

[Bob Orskov]

Dear  Jackie  Have registred not sure if correct We have several comunitu projects in kenya near Nakuru if you  go into www.orskovfoundation.ork you can find them our system is always based on revolving funds free gifts never work but gifts with committment and participation form the group it always work  Goog luck bob

 

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>>> Jacky Foo <jack...@gmail.com> 23/09/09 12:44 >>>
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[ca...@aol.com]

Prof Orskov, I would like to express my admiration for your projects as shown on your fine web page. The world is a better place due to your work I am sure.

 

Perhaps there is a way we can assist you with our small energy sysgtems.  We can produce clean gas via gasification which can be used to fuel an electric generator, a water pump, or a cook stove.  We can also make a fair supply of clean, distilled water with our surplus heat.  For fuel we can use animal manure, garbage, wood waste, tires, or even coal if necessary.  In many places of the world 5 kW of electricity can make a lot of difference. 1 MW can power a village or an industrial complex.

 

Regards,

 

Neal Van Milligen

Bioten Power and Energy Groups

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[Bob Orskov]

Dera Niel Thanks for your complements there is so much to learn one thing that we can say for sure that our western systems of fossil fuel driven monoculture supported by herbicides and pesticides is not sustainable . I have seen gassification in Vietnam and Cambodia In fact I am going there next months . I  did a film for BBC on total resouce management in Vietnam, where human and animal manure from small farms feed into a plastic tube to produce biogas for home cooking the slurry feed into fish ponds to fertilize plankton and the water eventually used for irrigation . I can send the cd to you if you are interested. So much to learn  we just need to have our eyes wide open. not closed as we have tended to do in the west . 
On my small farm here in Scotland I have a 2.5kw windmill!   I am alwauys interested in technologies that can be used by poor farmers and not patented by large multinationals  I could name a few. If you like a cd please send the address Best regards bob


Prof  E R Orskov  Macaulay institute Craigiebuckler Aberdeen AB15 8QH Scotland UK   Phone 44 1224 498243.
Home Craigie Park Whitecairns Aberdeen AB23 8 UN Scotland UK  Phone 44 1651 862351
 
 

 

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Subject: [IOBB-IBS-FORUM] Re: rabbit-fish integrated system

Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:35:18 -0400
From: ca...@aol.com

[Horst Doelle]

Dear Bob,

 

The work your are showing below is mainly the work of Reg Preston. Please look at http://www.lrrd.org  and you will get the electronic link to all the work you are mentioning .

He and we have done a lot of work in SE-Asia, despite the opposition from researchers from your country and Europe. This is why SE-Asia is a lot better of than Africa.

Best of luck and wishes

Horst

[Bob Orskov]

Dear Horst. Seem I do not know who gets the letters . I should know I am sure Yes Of course  Reg was very much involved In fact on the film i personally interview him. I am not taking any credit for it.

 Are you involved also in the work in Vietnam? I fully agree that  the west have not made it easier which i think also come through in my article. Reg visited me recenly at home with Lillian he very much approved of the Windmill. Do you have an organization ? I respond to a letter from Jacky Foo I get a reply from Neil i reply to his letter and get reply from you.! I must try to be a member  .

The small paper I wrote seem to be ok but what exactly is the system. Will Monsato read it too! I am sorry i had some problem in downloading My it department downloaded it on their computer which meant I am sure I could not get it on mine Best regards Bob

 

 

Prof E R Orskov 
IFRU
Macaulay Institute
Craigiebuckler
Aberdeen AB15 8QH

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Fax 44 (0) 1224 395035

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>>> "Horst Doelle" <horst...@bigpond.com> 24/09/09 10:41 >>>

[Peter Guagliano]

Hi Horst/Bob/All ;
 
If anyone is visiting Cambodia, we have Mercedes van for rent for all your travel arrangments, income from van rental would help us a lot.  Please be invited to visit our project in Battambang province.  We are just reaching self sufficiency in growing all our own food for orphan center with 30 children plus farm staff.  Jacky has been here long time before, we have made much progress since that time. A rabbit project and biogas would be very interesting for us.  Driver speaks fluent english.
 
Anyone interested can see pics at : www.cresard.com/pr03 and www.cresard.com/pr02
 
BR
Peter G.
Thailand
 

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To: iobb-ib...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [IOBB-IBS-FORUM] Re: rabbit-fish integrated system

Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:41:32 +1000

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[Jacky Foo]

"Bob Orskov" wrote:
> Dear  Jacky  Have registred not sure if correct

thank you for your vote for my project in the ARC contest
http://arc.peacecorpsconnect.org/view/653

I hope that all members at this IBS forum will also vote for the
project.

I have been helping schools and children's Home with vulnerable
children in Kenya in 2008
http://www.globetree.org/africa/rabbit-net.

I am very happy to inform you and IBS forum members that NTV Kenya (21
September 2009) released on YouTube a news clip on rabbit meat in
Gilgil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTuMoosJSQk).

>We have several comunitu projects in kenya near Nakuru if you 

>go into www.orskovfoundation.org you can find them our system

>is always based on revolving funds free gifts never work but gifts
>with committment and participation form the group it always work  

My future work plan currently has 2 proposals. The first is the rabbit-
fish system that can generate 100 kg of meat every month from a 1-acre
rabbit colony at a 30 acre farm of the Nazareth Sisters. The second
proposal is the theme for the ARC contest (entitled "The Ndekero

Challenge: A Systems Approach for Rabbit Keeping by a Rural Community

in Partnership with a Commercial Rabbit Farm").

To Bob, if I get the official answer on funding from the Swedish
Catholic Church, I will get back to you. I have a community project
idea for school children to create an allotment garden beside the fish
"canal" so that they can grow fruits for their school lunch. see
photos in http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2111&id=100000175854706

The children generally get a lunch of boiled beans and maize and this
is already a good meal for most of them.
(see http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=62541&id=100000175854706) .

I have a e-forum at http://arc.peacecorpsconnect.org/view/653 .....
please join this forum with your feedbacks and comments on the project
idea.

regards
jacky

[Jacky Foo]

Neal Van Milligen wrote:
> Perhaps there is a way we can assist you with our small energy sysgtems.?
>We can produce clean gas via gasification ....
>....For fuel we can use animal manure, garbage, wood waste, tires, or
>even coal if necessary.? In many places of the world 5 kW of electricity
>can make a lot of difference.?1 MW can power a village or an
>industrial complex.

Hi Neal
Ndekero (my project site for 2010) has no electricity, no piped water
but has mobile phone network. It is more populated than Peter G's
place in Cambodia (and more rainfall too) but basic issues are much
the same.

The school has 200 children and serves lunch and tea during school
days and uses firewood as fuel. Your gasifier can also produce biochar
which I like to have for soil improvements. I would certainly like to
have a gasifier firstly to reduce the amount of wood used for cooking.
It is also high time that a demonstration of gasifiers is done in
Kenya as most boarding schools use wood as fuel because commercial gas
is too expensive.

Q: can one unit volume of wood give more cooking time if it goes to a
gasifier first ??

+++++jf
vote for the rabbit project in http://arc.peacecorpsconnect.org/view/653

[Jacky Foo]

Peter Guagliano wrote:
> We are just reaching self sufficiency in growing all our own food for
>orphan center with 30 children plus farm staff.  Jacky has been here
>long time before, we have made much progress since that time.
>A rabbit project and biogas would be very interesting for us.  

A rabbit project would be useful.....
What happened to the 3 rabbits I gave CRESARD ?

++++jf (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?
id=100000175854706&ref=profile)

remember to vote for the rabbit project in http://arc.peacecorpsconnect.org/view/653
VOTE NOW
Contest Deadline: 15 Oct 2009

[Jacky Foo]

"Bob Orskov" wrote:
> Dear Horst. Seem I do not know who gets the letters .

>I respond to a letter from Jacky Foo I get a reply from Neil

>i reply to his letter and get reply from you.!.....

> The small paper I wrote seem to be ok but what exactly is the system.
>Will Monsato read it too!

Hi Bob......
welcome to the Internet world where things happen so fast that many of
us may not know what we just did !!! Ha Ha ..:-))

IOBB-IBS-FORUM is one of my google groups (http://groups.google.com/
group/iobb-ibs-forum) that was created in 2006 and it currently has
311 members. It is basically a distribution list with poor web
features (when compared to Yahoo groups).

If the "subject: line" of the header of your email shows:
>subject [IOBB-IBS-FORUM] Re: rabbit-fish integrated system
then the message is coming through this e-forum.

It is a public forum i.e. anyone can read what you write.
REPLY or addressing the message to iobb-ib...@googlegroups.com
will send your message to 311 persons (and searchable by anyone on
Internet too).

Hi Bob....
as long as you dont send love letters into this e-group... you are
okay :-))

++++jf (list owner and moderator)

[ca...@aol.com]

Jacky, a gasifier is an exceedingly simple device, The art of if is in metering the wood gas into an engine to replace gasoline or diesel fuel. Even this is a matter of listening to the engine needs as it works.

 

The web page cited below is not ours but it shows a series of steps in building a gasifier capable of producing about 25 kW of electricity. Local fabricators can produce these units.  Some parts can even be made of baked clay.

 

We are most interested in being of assistance to your project. Perhaps the do it yourself option would be the economical route.  If you need any parts for the units the company on the web page will sell you individual parts. Or we can work on other options for you.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Building_the_GEK_Gasifier_in_seven_parts/

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jacky Foo <jack...@gmail.com>
To: IOBB Integrated Biosystems Forum <iobb-ib...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Sep 25, 2009 12:25 am
Subject: [IOBB-IBS-FORUM] Re: rabbit-fish integrated system

 Neal Van Milligen wrote:
> Perhaps there is a way we can assist you with our small energy sysgtems.?
>We can produce clean gas via gasification ....
>....For fuel we can use animal manure, garbage, wood waste, tires, or
>even coal if necessary.? In many places of the world 5 kW of electricity
>can make a lot of difference.?1 MW can power a village or an
>industrial complex.

Hi Neal
Ndekero (my project site for 2010) has no electricity, no piped water
but has mobile phone network. It is more populated than Peter G's
place in Cambodia (and more rainfall too) but basic issues are much
the same.

The school has 200 children and serves lunch and tea during school
days and uses firewood as fuel. Your gasifier can also produce biochar
which I like to have for soil improvements. I would certainly like to
have a gasifier firstly to reduce the amount of wood used for cooking.
It is also high time that a demonstration of gasifiers is done in
Kenya as most boarding schools use wood as fuel because commercial gas
is too expensive.

Q: can one unit volume of wood give more cooking time if it goes to a
gasifier first ??

+++++jf
vote for the rabbit project in http://arc.peacecorpsconnect.org/view/653

[Jacky Foo]

2009/9/25 <ca...@aol.com>:
> Jacky, a gasifier is an exceedingly simple device, The art of it is in

> metering the wood gas into an engine to replace gasoline or diesel fuel.
> Even this is a matter of listening to the engine needs as it works.

this is where skills is needed as everyone fear an exploding gas.

> Local fabricators can produce these units.  Some parts can even be made of baked
> clay.
>
> We are most interested in being of assistance to your project. Perhaps the
> do it yourself option would be the economical route.  If you need any parts
> for the units the company on the web page will sell you individual parts. Or
> we can work on other options for you.
> http://www.instructables.com/id/Building_the_GEK_Gasifier_in_seven_parts/

Thanks for the link.

Let me first launch the rabbit project in 2010 and then we can think
of peripheral activities in the future.

++++jf

[ca...@aol.com]

gas can not explode without air. The gas if produced in an oxygen deprived environment inside the unit.  The gas production consumes what little air is present. So in order to combust (explode) the gas you have to add air to it.  This makes it pretty safe.

 

Let me know when you are ready.

 

Neal


-----Original Message-----
From: Jacky Foo <jack...@gmail.com>
To: iobb-ib...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, Sep 25, 2009 12:48 pm
Subject: [IOBB-IBS-FORUM] Re: rabbit-fish integrated system

2009/9/25  <ca...@aol.com>:
> Jacky, a gasifier is an exceedingly simple device, The art of it is in
> metering the wood gas into an engine to replace gasoline or diesel fuel.
> Even this is a matter of listening to the engine needs as it works.

this is where skills is needed as everyone fear an exploding gas.

> Local fabricators can produce these units.  Some parts can even be made of 
baked
> clay.
>
> We are most interested in being of assistance to your project. Perhaps the
> do it yourself option would be the economical route.  If you need any parts
> for the units the company on the web page will sell you individual parts. Or
> we can work on other options for you.
> http://www.instructables.com/id/Building_the_GEK_Gasifier_in_seven_parts/

[Peter Guagliano]

Hi Jacky ;

 
> A rabbit project would be useful.....
> What happened to the 3 rabbits I gave CRESARD ?

They had babies a few times but of course no one knows how to take care of them.  Babies died and eventually the rabbits died too. There are some key points which I learned during the seminar that no one knew.  I am not surprised it failed first time.  Will try again when I can locate some more rabbits.

 
BR
Peter G.
Thailand
 

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[Jacky Foo]

Thank you to those who have voted at http://arc.peacecorpsconnect.org/view/653
.

I am happy to inform you that my project entry to the Africa Rural
Connect Contest (http://arc.peacecorpsconnect.org/contest) has gained
position 5 in the Top 10 list for "Round 3". I need more votes to stay
"short-listed" and in the Top 10 list for another 2 weeks.

To those who have not yet voted, we are 311 subscribers in this Group
and if another 100 of you can spare
just 5 minutes to actively vote, it will help me very much.

We should all vote for more integrated biosystems which will certainly
contribute to sustainable development.

The project will build first 1-acre rabbit colony farm in Kenya and to
contain 800-1000 rabbits. Your vote will make it the first Kenyan farm
that will integrate rabbit and fish farming

Please endorse the project at http://arc.peacecorpsconnect.org/view/653

+++thank you, jf.
http://www.globetree.org/africa/rabbit-net/arc-endorse.htm

[Jacky Foo]

2009/9/29 Jacky Foo <jack...@gmail.com>:

> To those who have not yet voted, we are 311 subscribers in this Group
> and if another 100 of you can spare
> just 5 minutes to actively vote, it will help me very much.

some one asked me if he could help a neighbour to vote.

Yes, each person is entitled one vote. Some people dont have email
addresses nor easy access to Internet.

You can help to create a one-time account for a person (e-g. at
www.hushmail.com) and vote on her/his behalf. If you can help some
friends this way, it would be great.

THANKS

[Bob Orskov]

The info you  wanr eg email password etc stops people I think why you need password Bob orskov

Prof E R Orskov
IFRU
Macaulay Institute
Craigiebuckler
Aberdeen AB15 8QH

Tel 44 (0)1224 498243
Fax 44 (0)1224 243209
Email b.or...@macaulay.ac.uk
bobo...@eudoramail.com
bobo...@hotmail.com
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>>> Jacky Foo <jack...@gmail.com> 09/29/09 8:07 AM >>>

Thank you to those who have voted at http://arc.peacecorpsconnect.org/view/653
.

I am happy to inform you that my project entry to the Africa Rural
Connect Contest (http://arc.peacecorpsconnect.org/contest) has gained
position 5 in the Top 10 list for "Round 3". I need more votes to stay
"short-listed" and in the Top 10 list for another 2 weeks.

To those who have not yet voted, we are 311 subscribers in this Group
and if another 100 of you can spare
just 5 minutes to actively vote, it will help me very much.

We should all vote for more integrated biosystems which will certainly
contribute to sustainable development.

The project will build first 1-acre rabbit colony farm in Kenya and to
contain 800-1000 rabbits. Your vote will make it the first Kenyan farm
that will integrate rabbit and fish farming

Please endorse the project at http://arc.peacecorpsconnect.org/view/653

+++thank you, jf.
http://www.globetree.org/africa/rabbit-net/arc-endorse.htm

[Jacky Foo]

2009/9/29 Bob Orskov <b.or...@macaulay.ac.uk>:
> The info you  wanr eg email password etc stops people I think. why... you need
> password Bob orskov

Hi

I guess I was not clear enough

JF>some one asked me if he could help a neighbour to vote.

>Yes, each person is entitled one vote. Some people dont have email
>addresses nor easy access to Internet.
>You can help to create a one-time account for a person (e-g. at
>www.hushmail.com) and vote on her/his behalf.

A new email account is needed for such people who dont have any
existing email account.
This is a straight forward assistance. You are helping a neighbour or
a friend to vote.

In the second case, you have a person who has an email address to
vote... for that person it takes extra effort and money (out of their
routine) to check his/her email. This may be the case in countries
where people may need to go to an internet cafe. (as in Kenya or
Uganda).

If a friend has internet access at work or at home, I would think it
is fair that a person with limited access could ask this friend to
vote on her/his behalf. It is not necessary to give the password.
Instead the friend with internet access can create a one-time email
account just to make the vote.

+++

[jackkson ntapi]

Great writing to you, hope all is well and all your life endeavors are moving on as planned. Please I am inviting you to vote/endorse our rabbit conservation project submitted at the African Rural Contest organized by the American peace corps. To view project and to vote/endorse project go to http://arc.peacecorpsconnect.org/view/930/ Voting procedure Go to http://arc.peacecorpsconnect.org/view/930/ Create an account by filling a user name, email address and a password Click at endorse Read through project carefully and make inputs to improve project at the comment box below After voting please forward this e-mail to your friends and ask them to vote too. Thanks for your effort to endorse our project your vote might change the life of a resource limited farm family in Cameroon. Jackson Ntapi Nk. Action for the Environment Coordinator Rabbit network Cameroon Po Box 2600 Yaounde, Cameroon Cellphone: +237 99 26 05 44 or +237 76 35 2112 --- On Fri, 9/25/09, ca...@aol.com <ca...@aol.com> wrote:

[Jacky Foo]

LAST CHANCE TO VOTE (by 15 Oct)

> To those who have not yet voted, we are 311 subscribers in this Group
> and if another 100 of you can spare
> just 5 minutes to actively vote, it will help me very much.

[Jacky Foo]

On Sep 23, 12:44 pm, Jacky Foo wrote:
> I have joined an ARC Contest to respond to the call for ideas that
> address fundamental problems of agricultural development and rural
> poverty in Sub-Saharan Africa; and especially women, the rural poor
> and the needs of rural communities. My project is in Kenya and
> entitled : "The Ndekero Challenge: A Systems Approach for Rabbit
> Keeping by a Rural Community in Partnership with a Commercial Rabbit
> Farm"

> PLEASE VOTE........thanks

GOOD NEWS

"The Ndekero Challenge" project idea has won 1st Place in Round 4 of
the Africa Rural Connect Competition! $3,000 will be awarded towards
the implementation of this project.

THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND ENDORSEMENT OF THE PROJECT,
AND THE WINNING IS ALL BECAUSE OF YOU WHO ENDORSED THE PROJECT.

Join me to celebrate this happy moment and to pray for the next and
final round which can ensure the first rabbit colony farm in Kenya and
that aims to produce at least 100 rabbits per month.

The 3,000 US$ will be used as the first step to develop partnership
between the families/community and the rabbit farm. The objective is
to connect the families to the market.

WHAT'S NEXT:
The top 20 of the 40 Round Winners will be nominated to the final
round for a chance to win the $20,000 grand prize. The Grand Prize
winner will be selected by ARC's Panel of Judges and the winner will
be announced in early December. :-))

So.... keep your fingers crossed for the project again.
Thanks

more information
Original version and discussion : http://arc.peacecorpsconnect.org/view/653
Improved version (project description): http://arc.peacecorpsconnect.org/view/1233

+++++jf
http://www.globetree.org/africa/rabbit-net

[jackkson ntapi]

Dear Jacky,   Congratulation for the victory.   Jackson Ntapi --- On Wed, 11/18/09, Jacky Foo <jack...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jacky Foo <jack...@gmail.com> Subject: [IOBB-IBS-FORUM] Re: rabbit-fish integrated system

To: "IOBB Integrated Biosystems Forum" <iobb-ib...@googlegroups.com>

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[Jacky Foo]

2009/11/22 jackkson ntapi <jackso...@yahoo.com>
> Congratulation for the victory.

thanks....

See also the Press Release (http://arc.peacecorpsconnect.org/node/793) on
......First European Wins Africa Rural Connect's Fourth Round in
Online Ideas Competition.
Swedish winner demonstrates global appeal of online contest helping rural Africa
...


Let us keep all our fingers crossed for the results of the Grand Prize
of 20,000 US$ before Christmas Day.

+++++jf