Re: Digest for intersz@googlegroups.com - 15 Messages in 2 Topics

[steve]

Yes thank you Mihran, I really enjoyed your organization and motivation. I won't forget your killer abs sessions and running around the pitch 20 times!!

see you out there, although now i am away most weeks

Steve

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• Intershenzhen Change Management [14 Updates]
• Shenzhen Football: do you want to be in ? [1 Update]

 Topic: Intershenzhen Change Management

"Mihran Papazian [GMAIL]" <mihran....@gmail.com> Dec 06 02:58PM +0800 ^

 
Dear players,
 

 
I've been quite active in the Intershenzhen organization over the past
years.
 
I put a lot energy and it's been few months I'm not that involved anymore,
I'm tired and I'm just not doing well so it's time for change, I'm
officially not taking any decisions for the club anymore.
 
Tansel and Tim will announce their take-over, they will be happy to see
anybody who is willing to help talk to them, I'm personally happy and
confident they will do a great job and we should encourage them.
 

 
We've been together with Intershenzhen trying many things: from a regular
expats meet up to a formal club, with team assistant, coach, material
(inventory list), members fees, clear accounting, regular training, formal
league to even sponsored events.and my statement today is that if this would
had to continue this should be with the involvement of an entire community
rather than a one-man-show that is donating his energy for a 2-3 years time.
As you know a social community should be driven at the rhythm of its
members.
 

 
Just bear in mind: there is a Celt team, an Algerian team, a Spanish team, a
Korean team, a Latino team, a German team, a team playing regularly 5-asides
in Nanshan, another team playing 3 times a week in Futian, there is
Intershenzhen FC.
 
With all those foreigners in Shenzhen do you guys still believe we should
stay unorganized, spread over the city and play Chinese teams ?
 
From our experience, Chinese team just wouldn't work, the cultural gap, be
it from either way, is just too big and cannot be controlled on the pitch,
Intershenzhen already withdrew from its second league back in Sept 2010.
 
Be rational, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Beijing, Guangzhou have their own league,
they didn't succeed in Chinese league neither, we can do the same thing and
setup our own expat league.
 
This is a call to all the expats football players in Shenzhen who wish to
build this future league, it's not to 1 person, nor to 1 team, it should be
the concern of every foreigners who want to enjoy a better football in this
city to try to gather and build up, especially that Xmas and CNY are coming
and there will be a 3 months gap as every year.
 

 
I'll show up as many sessions as I can,
 
Thank you Inter,
 
Have fun,
 
Mihran


 

Charlier Matthieu <matthieu...@gmail.com> Dec 06 03:08PM +0800 ^

 
Thank you Mihran for the time you've dedicated to make Inter a great
place to play football!
Hope to see you all soon on the pitch!
 
Take care
 
Matthieu
--
E matthieu...@gmail.com
M +86 135 0005 9565
Skype mtfcharlier
 
Mr Matthieu Charlier
Coastal Rose Garden Phase 2
Building 33, Apartment 16C
WangHai Road, Shekou
Shenzhen
P.R. China
中国深圳市蛇口望海路南海玫瑰园33栋16C
 
 
 
On Dec 6, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Mihran Papazian [GMAIL] wrote:
 


 

"Francois Duchesne \(gmail\)" <duche...@gmail.com> Dec 06 03:28PM +0800 ^

 
xiexie
 

 
Francois - 方朔华
 
+8613632929404
 

 
From: int...@googlegroups.com [mailto:int...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mihran Papazian [GMAIL]
Sent: 2010年12月6日 14:58
To: int...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Intershenzhen Change Management
 

 
Dear players,
 

 
I’ve been quite active in the Intershenzhen organization over the past
years.
 
I put a lot energy and it’s been few months I’m not that involved anymore,
I’m tired and I’m just not doing well so it’s time for change, I’m
officially not taking any decisions for the club anymore.
 
Tansel and Tim will announce their take-over, they will be happy to see
anybody who is willing to help talk to them, I’m personally happy and
confident they will do a great job and we should encourage them.
 

 
We’ve been together with Intershenzhen trying many things: from a regular
expats meet up to a formal club, with team assistant, coach, material
(inventory list), members fees, clear accounting, regular training, formal
league to even sponsored events…and my statement today is that if this
would had to continue this should be with the involvement of an entire
community rather than a one-man-show that is donating his energy for a 2-3
years time. As you know a social community should be driven at the rhythm of
its members.
 

 
Just bear in mind: there is a Celt team, an Algerian team, a Spanish team, a
Korean team, a Latino team, a German team, a team playing regularly 5-asides
in Nanshan, another team playing 3 times a week in Futian, there is
Intershenzhen FC…
 
With all those foreigners in Shenzhen do you guys still believe we should
stay unorganized, spread over the city and play Chinese teams ?
 
From our experience, Chinese team just wouldn’t work, the cultural gap, be
it from either way, is just too big and cannot be controlled on the pitch,
Intershenzhen already withdrew from its second league back in Sept 2010.
 
Be rational, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Beijing, Guangzhou have their own league,
they didn’t succeed in Chinese league neither, we can do the same thing and
setup our own expat league.
 
This is a call to all the expats football players in Shenzhen who wish to
build this future league, it’s not to 1 person, nor to 1 team, it should be
the concern of every foreigners who want to enjoy a better football in this
city to try to gather and build up, especially that Xmas and CNY are coming
and there will be a 3 months gap as every year.
 

 
I’ll show up as many sessions as I can,
 
Thank you Inter,
 
Have fun,
 
Mihran
 
--
--- / /( . )( . )\ \ ---
website: www.intershenzhen.com
groupsite: http://groups.google.com/group/intersz?hl=en
acCe$s gRaNt3d To MeMbeRz OnLY


 

"Maxime Roquette" <maximer...@yahoo.fr> Dec 06 05:07PM +0800 ^

 
A big thanks indeed to you Mihran for all time and energy spent during these years.
 
I know how it is time consuming to try to organize things...
 
See you soon on pitch
 
Max
 

 

 

 
From: int...@googlegroups.com [mailto:int...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Francois Duchesne (gmail)
Sent: 06 December 2010 15:29
To: int...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Intershenzhen Change Management
 

 
xiexie
 

 
Francois - 方朔华
 
+8613632929404
 

 
From: int...@googlegroups.com [mailto:int...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mihran Papazian [GMAIL]
Sent: 2010年12月6日 14:58
To: int...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Intershenzhen Change Management
 

 
Dear players,
 

 
I’ve been quite active in the Intershenzhen organization over the past years.
 
I put a lot energy and it’s been few months I’m not that involved anymore, I’m tired and I’m just not doing well so it’s time for change, I’m officially not taking any decisions for the club anymore.
 
Tansel and Tim will announce their take-over, they will be happy to see anybody who is willing to help talk to them, I’m personally happy and confident they will do a great job and we should encourage them.
 

 
We’ve been together with Intershenzhen trying many things: from a regular expats meet up to a formal club, with team assistant, coach, material (inventory list), members fees, clear accounting, regular training, formal league to even sponsored events…and my statement today is that if this would had to continue this should be with the involvement of an entire community rather than a one-man-show that is donating his energy for a 2-3 years time. As you know a social community should be driven at the rhythm of its members.
 

 
Just bear in mind: there is a Celt team, an Algerian team, a Spanish team, a Korean team, a Latino team, a German team, a team playing regularly 5-asides in Nanshan, another team playing 3 times a week in Futian, there is Intershenzhen FC…
 
With all those foreigners in Shenzhen do you guys still believe we should stay unorganized, spread over the city and play Chinese teams ?
 
From our experience, Chinese team just wouldn’t work, the cultural gap, be it from either way, is just too big and cannot be controlled on the pitch, Intershenzhen already withdrew from its second league back in Sept 2010.
 
Be rational, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Beijing, Guangzhou have their own league, they didn’t succeed in Chinese league neither, we can do the same thing and setup our own expat league.
 
This is a call to all the expats football players in Shenzhen who wish to build this future league, it’s not to 1 person, nor to 1 team, it should be the concern of every foreigners who want to enjoy a better football in this city to try to gather and build up, especially that Xmas and CNY are coming and there will be a 3 months gap as every year.
 

 
I’ll show up as many sessions as I can,
 
Thank you Inter,
 
Have fun,
 
Mihran
 
--
--- / /( . )( . )\ \ ---
website: www.intershenzhen.com
groupsite: http://groups.google.com/group/intersz?hl=en
acCe$s gRaNt3d To MeMbeRz OnLY
 
--
--- / /( . )( . )\ \ ---
website: www.intershenzhen.com
groupsite: http://groups.google.com/group/intersz?hl=en
acCe$s gRaNt3d To MeMbeRz OnLY


 

So 6 <so.c...@gmail.com> Dec 06 05:27PM +0800 ^

 
Mihran,
 
don't regret anything, you did a really good job and I saw big improvements
at many levels in 2 years. I can guess you are now tired and you are totally
right when you are speaking about the community responsibility in the
organisation.
 
You deserve your management retirement but don't except me to be more kind
on the pitch, old pal :)
 
Fabien.
 
ps : Tansel, Tim I'm in to discuss after my come back from France (13th of
January).
 
2010/12/6 Maxime Roquette <maximer...@yahoo.fr>
 


 

Timothy Aldous <timoth...@yahoo.com> Dec 06 02:15AM -0800 ^

 
Fabien, of course your input is welcome as is everyone else's - it says you want to stay involved.
 
As for me and my role I want to say Tansel and I never sat down to discuss it.  He just asked if I would help him out and I said ok.  I dont see myself as "Assistant Manager" - I aint his bitch, ha ha,  But since someone actually wants to kickstart this again then I will certainly help out.  The way things were going I just wasn't getting my football each week.  In the end that's all we want right?  I have my own opinions on how to do this and perhaps I am the right guy to balance out Tansel's personality.  In fairness I think his strong personality is just to get things working again.  Yesterday's game was fun and is how things should go.  I agree with the others that much of the bickering came as a result of trying to fit into a league we were never going to fit in with.  Now that shit is over and we can organize games and enjoy it.
 
See you on the pitch.
 
Tim
 
 
 
 
--- On Mon, 12/6/10, So 6 <so.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 
From: So 6 <so.c...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Intershenzhen Change Management
To: int...@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 5:27 PM
 
 
Mihran,
 
don't regret anything, you did a really good job and I saw big improvements at many levels in 2 years. I can guess you are now tired and you are totally right when you are speaking about the community responsibility in the organisation.
 
You deserve your management retirement but don't except me to be more kind on the pitch, old pal :)
 
Fabien.
 
ps : Tansel, Tim I'm in to discuss after my come back from France (13th of January).
 
 
2010/12/6 Maxime Roquette <maximer...@yahoo.fr>
 
 
 
 
A big thanks indeed to you Mihran for all time and energy spent during these years.
I know how it is time consuming to try to organize things...
See you soon on pitch
Max
 
 
 
 
 
From: int...@googlegroups.com [mailto:int...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Francois Duchesne (gmail)
Sent: 06 December 2010 15:29
To: int...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Intershenzhen Change Management
 
 
 
 
xiexie
 
 
Francois - 方朔华
+8613632929404
 
 
 
From: int...@googlegroups.com [mailto:int...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mihran Papazian [GMAIL]
Sent: 2010年12月6日 14:58
To: int...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Intershenzhen Change Management
 
Dear players,
 
I’ve been quite active in the Intershenzhen organization over the past years.
I put a lot energy and it’s been few months I’m not that involved anymore, I’m tired and I’m just not doing well so it’s time for change, I’m officially not taking any decisions for the club anymore.
Tansel and Tim will announce their take-over, they will be happy to see anybody who is willing to help talk to them, I’m personally happy and confident they will do a great job and we should encourage them.
 
We’ve been together with Intershenzhen trying many things: from a regular expats meet up to a formal club, with team assistant, coach, material (inventory list), members fees, clear accounting, regular training, formal league to even sponsored events…and my statement today is that if this would had to continue this should be with the involvement of an entire community rather than a one-man-show that is donating his energy for a 2-3 years time. As you know a social community should be driven at the rhythm of its members.
 
Just bear in mind: there is a Celt team, an Algerian team, a Spanish team, a Korean team, a Latino team, a German team, a team playing regularly 5-asides in Nanshan, another team playing 3 times a week in Futian, there is Intershenzhen FC…
With all those foreigners in Shenzhen do you guys still believe we should stay unorganized, spread over the city and play Chinese teams ?
From our experience, Chinese team just wouldn’t work, the cultural gap, be it from either way, is just too big and cannot be controlled on the pitch, Intershenzhen already withdrew from its second league back in Sept 2010.
Be rational, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Beijing, Guangzhou have their own league, they didn’t succeed in Chinese league neither, we can do the same thing and setup our own expat league.
This is a call to all the expats football players in Shenzhen who wish to build this future league, it’s not to 1 person, nor to 1 team, it should be the concern of every foreigners who want to enjoy a better football in this city to try to gather and build up, especially that Xmas and CNY are coming and there will be a 3 months gap as every year.
 
I’ll show up as many sessions as I can,
Thank you Inter,
Have fun,
Mihran
--
--- / /( . )( . )\ \ ---
website: www.intershenzhen.com
groupsite: http://groups.google.com/group/intersz?hl=en
acCe$s gRaNt3d To MeMbeRz OnLY
--
--- / /( . )( . )\ \ ---
website: www.intershenzhen.com
groupsite: http://groups.google.com/group/intersz?hl=en
acCe$s gRaNt3d To MeMbeRz OnLY
 
 
 
--
--- / /( . )( . )\ \ ---
website: www.intershenzhen.com
groupsite: http://groups.google.com/group/intersz?hl=en
acCe$s gRaNt3d To MeMbeRz OnLY
 
--
--- / /( . )( . )\ \ ---
website: www.intershenzhen.com
groupsite: http://groups.google.com/group/intersz?hl=en
acCe$s gRaNt3d To MeMbeRz OnLY


 

Moussa <ctu...@gmail.com> Dec 06 06:49PM +0800 ^

 
Xie Xie
 
Sent from my iPhone
 


 

prince henry sowah <prin...@gmail.com> Dec 07 08:26AM +0800 ^

 
*well done ,papa.*
*i hope now you can have time for your wifeeeeeeeeee[?] .*
*you were a great leader and even though i am not happy with your decision
to step down , i still have to let it go . *
*you did well .*
**
*thanks papa.
*
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Mihran Papazian [GMAIL] <


 

prince henry sowah <prin...@gmail.com> Dec 07 08:35AM +0800 ^

 
Tansel, Tim,
i just want to enjoy the game i love most and i believe so does every
other guy in inter-sz.
i will do my best to help you guys in anyway.
and i hope you guys will continue the good job mirahan was doing.
 
 
2010/12/6 Timothy Aldous <timoth...@yahoo.com>
 


 

"Mihran Papazian [GMAIL]" <mihran....@gmail.com> Dec 07 08:40AM +0800 ^

 
hehe, love you Prince, wish we could have just 3-4 more skilled players like
you, that team would be so kick-ass, it’s time to recruit.
 

 
From: int...@googlegroups.com [mailto:int...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of prince henry sowah
Sent: 2010年12月7日 8:35
To: int...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Intershenzhen Change Management
 

 
Tansel, Tim,
 
i just want to enjoy the game i love most and i believe so does every other
guy in inter-sz.
 
i will do my best to help you guys in anyway.
 
and i hope you guys will continue the good job mirahan was doing.
 

 
2010/12/6 Timothy Aldous <timoth...@yahoo.com>
 
 
Fabien, of course your input is welcome as is everyone else's - it says you
want to stay involved.
 

 
As for me and my role I want to say Tansel and I never sat down to discuss
it. He just asked if I would help him out and I said ok. I dont see myself
as "Assistant Manager" - I aint his bitch, ha ha, But since someone
actually wants to kickstart this again then I will certainly help out. The
way things were going I just wasn't getting my football each week. In the
end that's all we want right? I have my own opinions on how to do this and
perhaps I am the right guy to balance out Tansel's personality. In fairness
I think his strong personality is just to get things working again.
Yesterday's game was fun and is how things should go. I agree with the
others that much of the bickering came as a result of trying to fit into a
league we were never going to fit in with. Now that shit is over and we can
organize games and enjoy it.
 

 
See you on the pitch.
 

 
Tim
 

 

 
 
 
--- On Mon, 12/6/10, So 6 <so.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 
From: So 6 <so.c...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Intershenzhen Change Management
To: int...@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 5:27 PM
 

 
Mihran,
 
don't regret anything, you did a really good job and I saw big improvements
at many levels in 2 years. I can guess you are now tired and you are totally
right when you are speaking about the community responsibility in the
organisation.
 
You deserve your management retirement but don't except me to be more kind
on the pitch, old pal :)
 
Fabien.
 
ps : Tansel, Tim I'm in to discuss after my come back from France (13th of
January).
 
2010/12/6 Maxime Roquette <maximer...@yahoo.fr
<http://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=maximer...@yahoo.fr> >
 
A big thanks indeed to you Mihran for all time and energy spent during these
years.
 
I know how it is time consuming to try to organize things...
 
See you soon on pitch
 
Max
 

 

 

 
From: int...@googlegroups.com
<http://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=int...@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:int...@googlegroups.com
<http://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=int...@googlegroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Francois Duchesne (gmail)
Sent: 06 December 2010 15:29
To: int...@googlegroups.com
<http://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=int...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Intershenzhen Change Management
 

 
xiexie
 

 
Francois - 方朔华
 
+8613632929404
 

 
From: int...@googlegroups.com
<http://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=int...@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:int...@googlegroups.com
<http://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=int...@googlegroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Mihran Papazian [GMAIL]
Sent: 2010年12月6日 14:58
To: int...@googlegroups.com
<http://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=int...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Intershenzhen Change Management
 

 
Dear players,
 

 
I’ve been quite active in the Intershenzhen organization over the past
years.
 
I put a lot energy and it’s been few months I’m not that involved anymore,
I’m tired and I’m just not doing well so it’s time for change, I’m
officially not taking any decisions for the club anymore.
 
Tansel and Tim will announce their take-over, they will be happy to see
anybody who is willing to help talk to them, I’m personally happy and
confident they will do a great job and we should encourage them.
 

 
We’ve been together with Intershenzhen trying many things: from a regular
expats meet up to a formal club, with team assistant, coach, material
(inventory list), members fees, clear accounting, regular training, formal
league to even sponsored events…and my statement today is that if this
would had to continue this should be with the involvement of an entire
community rather than a one-man-show that is donating his energy for a 2-3
years time. As you know a social community should be driven at the rhythm of
its members.
 

 
Just bear in mind: there is a Celt team, an Algerian team, a Spanish team, a
Korean team, a Latino team, a German team, a team playing regularly 5-asides
in Nanshan, another team playing 3 times a week in Futian, there is
Intershenzhen FC…
 
With all those foreigners in Shenzhen do you guys still believe we should
stay unorganized, spread over the city and play Chinese teams ?
 
From our experience, Chinese team just wouldn’t work, the cultural gap, be
it from either way, is just too big and cannot be controlled on the pitch,
Intershenzhen already withdrew from its second league back in Sept 2010.
 
Be rational, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Beijing, Guangzhou have their own league,
they didn’t succeed in Chinese league neither, we can do the same thing and
setup our own expat league.
 
This is a call to all the expats football players in Shenzhen who wish to
build this future league, it’s not to 1 person, nor to 1 team, it should be
the concern of every foreigners who want to enjoy a better football in this
city to try to gather and build up, especially that Xmas and CNY are coming
and there will be a 3 months gap as every year.
 

 
I’ll show up as many sessions as I can,
 
Thank you Inter,
 
Have fun,
 
Mihran
 
--
--- / /( . )( . )\ \ ---
website: www.intershenzhen.com <http://www.intershenzhen.com/>
groupsite: http://groups.google.com/group/intersz?hl=en
acCe$s gRaNt3d To MeMbeRz OnLY
 
--
--- / /( . )( . )\ \ ---
website: www.intershenzhen.com <http://www.intershenzhen.com/>
groupsite: http://groups.google.com/group/intersz?hl=en
acCe$s gRaNt3d To MeMbeRz OnLY
 
--
--- / /( . )( . )\ \ ---
website: www.intershenzhen.com <http://www.intershenzhen.com/>
groupsite: http://groups.google.com/group/intersz?hl=en
acCe$s gRaNt3d To MeMbeRz OnLY
 

 
--
--- / /( . )( . )\ \ ---
website: www.intershenzhen.com <http://www.intershenzhen.com/>
groupsite: http://groups.google.com/group/intersz?hl=en
acCe$s gRaNt3d To MeMbeRz OnLY
 

 
--
--- / /( . )( . )\ \ ---
website: www.intershenzhen.com <http://www.intershenzhen.com/>
groupsite: http://groups.google.com/group/intersz?hl=en
acCe$s gRaNt3d To MeMbeRz OnLY
 

 
--
--- / /( . )( . )\ \ ---
website: www.intershenzhen.com
groupsite: http://groups.google.com/group/intersz?hl=en
acCe$s gRaNt3d To MeMbeRz OnLY


 

Tansel Oender <tans...@googlemail.com> Dec 07 10:25AM +0800 ^

 
Dear Mihran,
 
thank you for all you did in the past 3 years for Inter Shenzhen!!
Your passion and drive were only matched by your drive and ambition to
put this team to a higher level. Unfortunately - like all great ideas
- the timing was perhaps not that great. Shenzhen as a footballing
city needs at least another 5-10 years till it can develop certain
structures to accommodate a guailo football team like those in
Guangzhou, Shanghai and Beijing. Nevertheless it was all worth the try
and you indeed put a tremendous energy into this.
 
Its only human that after a certain point where disappointment kicks
in over the football reality here in Shenzhen, that fatigue brings
down even the most passionate and motivated man, like it happened to
you. So after all we all thank you for your heart and blood giving
into this team!
 
The more I am personally disappointed once again that just a handful
of die-hard characters within our group did actually find some nice
words for you to express their gratitude towards the things you have
done for THEM! It doesn't matter the outcome as long as someone tries
with his heart to make a change, and you did that. And that makes you
special amongst all of us!
 
Saying this I officially welcome Tim as the new heir and crown prince
of Inter Shenzhen heheheheh. Dear friend you got all what it needs to
be the ruler of the universe, you got maturity, skills and passion on
and off the pitch, loyality and heart. Nothing more needs to be said
about you than wishing you strength and good fortunue during your
build up and later on leadership of Inter Shenzhen!
 
Because I will only do this for a intermediate time only to reorganize
the structures and adjust according to the realities here in Shenzhen.
Same as Matthieu we will remain in the inner management to assist and
look after Inter Shenzhen like we did for the last 10 years guys!
 
 
I want to cut things short here as we have more pressing issues on
hand right now guys. I will come back later to you on how to develop
from this point on and what we are going to do, but first things
first: WE NEED YOU ALL TO COME BACK AND SHOW SOME EFFORT AND
COMMITMENT GUYS!!
 
My first goal will be to regain and retain at least 14-16 players for
each training session. Once we have this base then we will work from
that time on but first we need you all to come back guys.
 
Coming Wednesday is TRAINING from 20.30 to 22.30 at the Futian
TiYuguan like always, business as usual guys, nothing has changed!!
Please reply very simply if you are IN, or OUT or MAYBE, that's all
information we need from you guys, nothing more and nothing less in
order to prepare and plan.
 
 
And then another word for our lovely girl Shelly. My dear you have
done a great deal as well for Inter Shenzhen and still keep doing
despite we do not have any financial means anymore to finance you
Shelly since the last couple of month. The more amazing is that you
kept and still keep coming and organizing at free will for Inter
Shenzhen!! I herewith will put my word and weight that you will get
reimbursed for the past at least Shelly, please do not worry about
that. As to the future there won't be any immediate means and needs
for any involvement of yours dear Shelly as there is no membership
club structures nor league participation anymore. We will restructure
and come back to basics, simplify everything and concentrate on
maintaining the minimum requirements to run this team. Therefore
Shelly we thank you gratefully for all you have done and we hope that
we can bring Inter Shenzhen back again with the required numbers of
committed players so that we can afford you and need you once again.
Until then you will always be kept within the email list my dear as
you are one of US. I will later contact with you regarding the details.
 
 
Ok guys, thats it for now, later i will post some of the restructure
measurements, but i can say already that we will downsize all
ambitions we had so far and come back to basics, which is stability,
commitment, quality and fun.
 
Please show up on Wednesday and then after I will come back to you
regarding the details. I need first to sit down with Tim and draft
everything before we address you guys!
 
Go Inter!
 
Tansel
13501562367
 
 
 
 
 
 
On 6 Dec 2010, at 2:58 PM, Mihran Papazian [GMAIL] wrote:
 


 

Charlier Matthieu <matthieu...@gmail.com> Dec 07 10:56AM +0800 ^

 
GO INTER!
 
I'm maybe as GK on wednesday night.
Cheers!
 
Matthieu
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On Dec 7, 2010, at 10:25 AM, Tansel Oender wrote:
 


 

prince henry sowah <prin...@gmail.com> Dec 07 11:35AM +0800 ^

 
OUT
 
2010/12/7 Charlier Matthieu <matthieu...@gmail.com>
 


 

juan carlos reyes camargo <juancr...@hotmail.com> Dec 07 12:05PM +0800 ^

 
IN
 
 
 
 
 
JUANCHO
 
 

 
 
 
From: tans...@googlemail.com
To: int...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Intershenzhen Change Management
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 10:25:43 +0800
 
Dear Mihran,
 
 
thank you for all you did in the past 3 years for Inter Shenzhen!! Your passion and drive were only matched by your drive and ambition to put this team to a higher level. Unfortunately - like all great ideas - the timing was perhaps not that great. Shenzhen as a footballing city needs at least another 5-10 years till it can develop certain structures to accommodate a guailo football team like those in Guangzhou, Shanghai and Beijing. Nevertheless it was all worth the try and you indeed put a tremendous energy into this.
 
 
Its only human that after a certain point where disappointment kicks in over the football reality here in Shenzhen, that fatigue brings down even the most passionate and motivated man, like it happened to you. So after all we all thank you for your heart and blood giving into this team!
 
 
The more I am personally disappointed once again that just a handful of die-hard characters within our group did actually find some nice words for you to express their gratitude towards the things you have done for THEM! It doesn't matter the outcome as long as someone tries with his heart to make a change, and you did that. And that makes you special amongst all of us!
 
 
Saying this I officially welcome Tim as the new heir and crown prince of Inter Shenzhen heheheheh. Dear friend you got all what it needs to be the ruler of the universe, you got maturity, skills and passion on and off the pitch, loyality and heart. Nothing more needs to be said about you than wishing you strength and good fortunue during your build up and later on leadership of Inter Shenzhen!
 
 
Because I will only do this for a intermediate time only to reorganize the structures and adjust according to the realities here in Shenzhen. Same as Matthieu we will remain in the inner management to assist and look after Inter Shenzhen like we did for the last 10 years guys!
 
 
 
 
I want to cut things short here as we have more pressing issues on hand right now guys. I will come back later to you on how to develop from this point on and what we are going to do, but first things first: WE NEED YOU ALL TO COME BACK AND SHOW SOME EFFORT AND COMMITMENT GUYS!!
 
 
My first goal will be to regain and retain at least 14-16 players for each training session. Once we have this base then we will work from that time on but first we need you all to come back guys.
 
 
Coming Wednesday is TRAINING from 20.30 to 22.30 at the Futian TiYuguan like always, business as usual guys, nothing has changed!! Please reply very simply if you are IN, or OUT or MAYBE, that's all information we need from you guys, nothing more and nothing less in order to prepare and plan.
 
 
 
 
And then another word for our lovely girl Shelly. My dear you have done a great deal as well for Inter Shenzhen and still keep doing despite we do not have any financial means anymore to finance you Shelly since the last couple of month. The more amazing is that you kept and still keep coming and organizing at free will for Inter Shenzhen!! I herewith will put my word and weight that you will get reimbursed for the past at least Shelly, please do not worry about that. As to the future there won't be any immediate means and needs for any involvement of yours dear Shelly as there is no membership club structures nor league participation anymore. We will restructure and come back to basics, simplify everything and concentrate on maintaining the minimum requirements to run this team. Therefore Shelly we thank you gratefully for all you have done and we hope that we can bring Inter Shenzhen back again with the required numbers of committed players so that we can afford you and need you once again. Until then you will always be kept within the email list my dear as you are one of US. I will later contact with you regarding the details.
 
 
 
 
Ok guys, thats it for now, later i will post some of the restructure measurements, but i can say already that we will downsize all ambitions we had so far and come back to basics, which is stability, commitment, quality and fun.
 
 
Please show up on Wednesday and then after I will come back to you regarding the details. I need first to sit down with Tim and draft everything before we address you guys!
 
 
Go Inter!
 
 
Tansel
13501562367
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
On 6 Dec 2010, at 2:58 PM, Mihran Papazian [GMAIL] wrote:
 
 
 
Dear players,

I’ve been quite active in the Intershenzhen organization over the past years.
I put a lot energy and it’s been few months I’m not that involved anymore, I’m tired and I’m just not doing well so it’s time for change, I’m officially not taking any decisions for the club anymore.
Tansel and Tim will announce their take-over, they will be happy to see anybody who is willing to help talk to them, I’m personally happy and confident they will do a great job and we should encourage them.

We’ve been together with Intershenzhen trying many things: from a regular expats meet up to a formal club, with team assistant, coach, material (inventory list), members fees, clear accounting, regular training, formal league to even sponsored events…and my statement today is that if this would had to continue this should be with the involvement of an entire community rather than a one-man-show that is donating his energy for a 2-3 years time. As you know a social community should be driven at the rhythm of its members.

Just bear in mind: there is a Celt team, an Algerian team, a Spanish team, a Korean team, a Latino team, a German team, a team playing regularly 5-asides in Nanshan, another team playing 3 times a week in Futian, there is Intershenzhen FC…
With all those foreigners in Shenzhen do you guys still believe we should stay unorganized, spread over the city and play Chinese teams ?
From our experience, Chinese team just wouldn’t work, the cultural gap, be it from either way, is just too big and cannot be controlled on the pitch, Intershenzhen already withdrew from its second league back in Sept 2010.
Be rational, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Beijing, Guangzhou have their own league, they didn’t succeed in Chinese league neither, we can do the same thing and setup our own expat league.
This is a call to all the expats football players in Shenzhen who wish to build this future league, it’s not to 1 person, nor to 1 team, it should be the concern of every foreigners who want to enjoy a better football in this city to try to gather and build up, especially that Xmas and CNY are coming and there will be a 3 months gap as every year.

I’ll show up as many sessions as I can,
Thank you Inter,
Have fun,
Mihran
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 Topic: Shenzhen Football: do you want to be in ?

Tony Nilsson <tony.n...@rusta.cn> Dec 05 10:39PM -0800 ^

 
I will be in Sweden until Dec 17.
 
Tony


 

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