Sunday Games :(

[Mihran Papazian [GMAIL]]

Guys,

We were 7 dudes starting the game (with Shelly as goalkeeper, very good performance) and we smashed these motherfuckers.

The man of the match, Vasken, got injured very badly at the 91^st minute when we were winning 4-2.

Look at the attached Xray, a violent tackle by behind literally broke his right feet.

He cannot play football for probably a year and an imminent surgery decision is to be taken.

I deplore football at this level, the guy who commit the fault tackled already several times people with really bad intentions, I was borderline to explode his head when he sandwiched me.

If you put the guy aside who committed this act during an amateur football game look at the ref for a minute guys: this motherfucking referee is probably the most responsible person on this incident, never whistling any fault, never giving any right cartons that would cool down the game. Death penalty for such people I swear, they are just fight generators making all the pressure of 22 players go up and up.

I’m always the guy trying to cool down the team on the pitch to tell people to shut up and I don’t think I’m wrong even if I would have probably much liked if we could kill this men.

I’m sad to see my bro handicapped so I’m simply gonna step back from official games, just to avoid the chance of having a second person walking with crutches for 6 months in the same company and also to avoid expressing my anger with fights on the pitch.

I’ll join you guys for trainings session.

Cheers,

Mihran

[bruce_wayne]

Vasken/Mihran - sorry to see that photo, and hope you both a speedy recovery. Its really a shame since it could have been avoided.

Get well soon and take some time to reflect on things you can do without playing football, that can still make you happy:)

All The best.


----In 2010-09-06 00:29:24 You Said:----

Guys,

We were 7 dudes starting the game (with Shelly as goalkeeper, very good performance) and we smashed these motherfuckers.

The man of the match, Vasken, got injured very badly at the 91^st minute when we were winning 4-2.

Look at the attached Xray, a violent tackle by behind literally broke his right feet.

He cannot play football for probably a year and an imminent surgery decision is to be taken.

I deplore football at this level, the guy who commit the fault tackled already several times people with really bad intentions, I was borderline to explode his head when he sandwiched me.

If you put the guy aside who committed this act during an amateur football game look at the ref for a minute guys: this motherfucking referee is probably the most responsible person on this incident, never whistling any fault, never giving any right cartons that would cool down the game. Death penalty for such people I swear, they are just fight generators making all the pressure of 22 players go up and up.

I鈥檓 always the guy trying to cool down the team on the pitch to tell people to shut up and I don鈥檛 think I鈥檓 wrong even if I would have probably much liked if we could kill this men.

I鈥檓 sad to see my bro handicapped so I鈥檓 simply gonna step back from official games, just to avoid the chance of having a second person walking with crutches for 6 months in the same company and also to avoid expressing my anger with fights on the pitch.

I鈥檒l join you guys for trainings session.

Cheers,

Mihran

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[Werner Duetting]

No way. Have a good recovery soon, Vasken. It's hard to see that X-ray...crazy.

 

I am back in China and could play the next matches. Shelly....I will take your goalkeeping position. :-)

 

See you soon - perhaps first in a training session.

 

Take care - especially you Vasken.

 

Werner

 

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[prince henry sowah]

hi vasken ,

 

sorry for your injury, i wish you a speedy recovery and hope you get better soon.

we will be praying for you.

[Rafael Moreira Iaia]

Mihran,
 
 I'm very sorry for your brother! You should be proud of yourself not to do anything stupid. There's a lot of merit in it even by avoiding temptation.
 
 Please, tell Vasken I wish him a quick and as much free of pain recovery as possible!
 
Rafael    
 

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From: mihran....@gmail.com
To: int...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sunday Games :(
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:29:00 +0800

[Luis Pizano]

Mi amigo Vasken,

Hope you get better soon; if you need any help getting groceries, getting some place,etc. (sorry no sexual favors) just give me a call... . Take care, stay positive and see you on the pitch again soon!!!

Cheers,

Luis

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[Essy Obaidi]

Honestly, that was one of the worst "tackles" I've ever seen in amateur football, and the fact that the ref only gave a yellow card was disgusting. Hope you get better soon Vasken.

Essy

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To: int...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sunday Games :(
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:29:00 +0800

[thibault beilin]

Papaz bro's,

Sorry for what happened to you vasken, wish you get better rapidly and  wish i could explode some chinese refs(or just common chinese citizens)'  heads with you when you recover !

dont take it stupidly and get to France to get surgery if needed.

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[hebachi elhadj]

sorry vasken & mihran to see that and hope get better soon
hadj

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From: Mihran Papazian [GMAIL] <mihran....@gmail.com>
To: int...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 6, 2010 12:29:00 AM
Subject: Sunday Games :(

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[So 6]

Vasken and Mirhan,

We are all with you both. I sincerely hope you will recover quickly and healthy. As Raphael said, that's good not done something silly on the pitch even if I agree the ref has a major part of responsability on what happened.

Don't lose patience and get fat too quickly.

Take care.

Fabien.

2010/9/6 hebachi elhadj <hemo...@yahoo.com>

[Timothy Aldous]

damn, that pisses me off.  bloody mother fucker chopped him down and the ref saw it as just another foul.  That ref is dangerous and doesn't even know it.  I am sorry to hear about your injury.  Get it properly treated. Take care brother. Tim

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[moreno.cat]

Hi Vasken,

 

I'm sorry for your very bad injury, keep the moral and I hope to see you again on the pitch soon.

Take care.

 

Michel

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Guys,

We were 7 dudes starting the game (with Shelly as goalkeeper, very good performance) and we smashed these motherfuckers.

The man of the match, Vasken, got injured very badly at the 91^st minute when we were winning 4-2.

Look at the attached Xray, a violent tackle by behind literally broke his right feet.

He cannot play football for probably a year and an imminent surgery decision is to be taken.

I deplore football at this level, the guy who commit the fault tackled already several times people with really bad intentions, I was borderline to explode his head when he sandwiched me.

If you put the guy aside who committed this act during an amateur football game look at the ref for a minute guys: this motherfucking referee is probably the most responsible person on this incident, never whistling any fault, never giving any right cartons that would cool down the game. Death penalty for such people I swear, they are just fight generators making all the pressure of 22 players go up and up.

I’m always the guy trying to cool down the team on the pitch to tell people to shut up and I don’t think I’m wrong even if I would have probably much liked if we could kill this men.

I’m sad to see my bro handicapped so I’m simply gonna step back from official games, just to avoid the chance of having a second person walking with crutches for 6 months in the same company and also to avoid expressing my anger with fights on the pitch.

I’ll join you guys for trainings session.

Cheers,

Mihran

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[Vasken Papazian]

Thanks for your messages dudes;

Do not listen my bro, he is little bit too protector or scared and I admit me too, especially when Chinese doctor told me you have to walk with crutches during 6 months and no soccer anymore during one year;

But after several diagnostic from French doctors that sounds better; I should use crutches and special plaster during 2 months then I will be better.

Anyway it’s boring to be handicapped, but I will see you soon on the pitch.

Cheers!

 

Cordialement,

Vasken Papazian

 

From: int...@googlegroups.com [mailto:int...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mihran Papazian [GMAIL]
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 12:29 AM
To: int...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sunday Games :(

 

Guys,

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[Mihran Papazian [GMAIL]]

Guys, after this incident I wanna pass the following message:

I advise that we, foreign amateur players in Shenzhen, step back from this supposed league, I’m trying but I’m actually not really having fun.

If you are having fun playing and at the same time complaining every week then continue, if you are having fun playing and being treated like donkeys then continue, if you are having fun enjoying football and feeling unfairness all the way then continue.

I’m not gonna continue supporting the club in this direction; the statement is very clear and maybe fresh comers like Vasken or others take it quite easy but there is no place at a middle football level for foreigners in Chinese league.

Look, Hong kong they have the YauYee league, all foreigner teams, Shanghai and Beijing have a foreigner league as well; that was not possible 4 years ago in Shenzhen but nowadays there are a bunch of foreign teams and we should have our own league.

It’s just unbearable to take it by the ass every Sunday with no result, with no little hope of improvement, with no light of slight progress, nothing always the same motherfuckers, be them refs or opponents.

Even though excessively pride Chinese people should not be pointed with racist cursing, I would actually reverse the problem and say that it’s an adaptation problem from us, the foreigners who concede to live here.

The adaptation should be, buy Chinese materials, rent Chinese pitch, have a very helfpful Chinese assistant (thanks for your message shelly), get Chinese sponsors but play with foreigners.

 

I cannot force you guys to stop if you wanna continue to play, then I can only poll:

-       Continue in this league

-       Play between us or other foreigners on Sunday (5, 7, 11 aside) the time a little league can be constituted

 

In case of poll 1 you are playing at your own risk, get a good insurance guys, I’m not in anymore, I know that if no injury then fights will happen.

Waiting for your poll to take a decision for the club,

 

Regards,
Mihran | 米然
+8613825202842

[Francois Duchesne (gmail)]

You’ll be back stronger, Vasken.

Recover toi bien gros

 

Francois - 方朔华

+8613632929404

 

From: int...@googlegroups.com [mailto:int...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vasken Papazian
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:21 AM
To: int...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sunday Games :(

 

Thanks for your messages dudes;

[bruno caetano]

I´m very sorry for Vasken and it basically reminds a bit why I´m try to avoid this kind of leagues, as people really can get crazy playing football or any other sport. I played in the Portuguese Amateur Hockey League all my life and had a few injuries, some of them caused by people that have no problems to hit you from the back. it´s not a matter of being sissy, but I really don´t wanna pass the same, in China. And sometimes is better to rip the head off of those stupid guys, but, well...

Vasken, let me know if you need something I can help out.

And see the rest of you guys this wednsday

Bruno

[Jan Ayhan]

Vasken, sorry to hear and see all that happened. I am sure you will
recover fast and strong. Just take it easy for now.
I am next door so if you need something let me know.

Can

[Oscar Sardinas]

Sorry to hear about the foot man but happy to know you have received some better news from better doctors.  Hope you heal quickly and looking forward to joining you all again in the next few months when I return.

 

Take care,

Oscar

 

From: int...@googlegroups.com [mailto:int...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vasken Papazian
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 9:21 PM
To: int...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sunday Games :(

 

Thanks for your messages dudes;

[Mihran Papazian [GMAIL]]

Guys I’m sending this email again.

 

Yesterday we talked with some of the players, it seems pretty clear that nobody is having fun anymore on Sundays and we’d rather play between us and simply pull off this fuckin league.

We will not play league game this Sunday, the time we decide, Shelly please try to organize a friendly game with all the foreigners in town.

No game were smooth last year, we tried again this year because the league got bigger, but still nobody is enjoying it.

Now the default status of the club now is: we are off the league ! Whoever is ok with that, no need to reply.

Shelly if we have less than 10 replies saying the contrary:  “yes we wanna continue”  by Wednesday, Sept 15^th  then send an email to tell them we are off their shitty organization, they just wanna make money and save few rmb on referees by hiring mofo students.

 

I had fun yesterday,

Bye

Mihran

 

From: Mihran Papazian [GMAIL] [mailto:mihran....@gmail.com]
Sent: 2010年9月7日 9:45
To: 'int...@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Sunday Games :(

 

Guys, after this incident I wanna pass the following message:

[Werner Duetting]

Hey guys,

 

so, a lot of things changed, when I was for holiday in Germany. It's a shame what happened - especially with Vasken.

 

However, I would like to continue in the league. So, YES I wanna continue.

 

Some guys know, that I am also join a chinese team for 2,5 years. Some refs of the league (last season) I saw also in the games with the chinese team, but we play mostly just friendly matches, only few tournaments. The refs are alright, but aswell we had also few fights with other teams and also once with a ref. Just few, but I think it's normal in amateur footy in the world.

 

I would like to play again as the goalkeeper of Inter, if it's not on the same time with the games of the chinese team. If we play just friendly matches, alright. If we continue in the league, also alright for me.

 

See you soon

 

Werner

 

 

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[prince henry sowah]

guys

 

it will be fine if we stop playing the league games ,but let,s look at it this way too.

 

will the other foreigners always be around for the Sunday games against our salves?

 

how many other foreign teams do we know of ?

 

i just think we should consider this very well before making any move ,cuz i don,t know if there are any foreign stable teams here in sz like inter.

[So 6]

Hi Mihran,

I agree with the policy of the club. I mean we have enough good reasons to quite this league for few games :
- three weeks ago, the supporters invaded the pitch and were close to fight us.
- two weeks ago, one teammate has been punched by one opponent supporter.
- last week a serious injury has been caused due to one really agressive player and our (always) bad referee.

That's why I think it is wise to quite the league for at least few games in explaning clearly our reasons to the league organization (actually other fight events occured between chinese team in Longang district so they already know they need to do something).

But before stopping the league once and for all, we need to take the time to answer to the good question raised by Prince : are SZ foreigners able to organize every week one friendly game in good condition ?

Fabien.

2010/9/9 prince henry sowah <prin...@gmail.com>

[Luis Pizano]

Amigos,

Okay here goes my 2 cents...

I have not had much fun in the past year; too much complaining amongst ourselves, with the opposing players with the referees, etc. We cannot go one session without someone complaining about something to the point that it gets the team/players out of our comfort level.  This just makes playing with Inter SZ a pain instead of fun. Yes, the referees and opposing teams do not help with their bad calls and bad tactics so I would vote to not play in the league.

Inter SZ has a minimum of 12-15 players every weekend and I think if we contact other foreign teams (Tommy already suggested a few) we could at least have a full 11 vs 11 game every other week.  And if not we could have small games with 5 vs 5 (3 teams).  So if Shelly could spend some time contacting the foreign teams and not worry about the league I think we can organize matches frequently.

It's unfortunate we cannot get into a competative league/situation but lets start having some fun again and look forward to seeing each other over the weekend to play some good futbol...


Cheers,

Luis

[Timothy Aldous]

Last year before we joined this league we were able to find games every week with no problem.  When we didn't have an oponent we split Inter into 2 teams since we had so many players.  Now we have much fewer players because, for various reasons, people have gone elsewhere.  So unless we want Inter to continue a slow death we need to revitalize things. anyway it is clear people have already voted that they don't want to play in that league  - every week is a struggle to get 13 players out there.  Last week was pitiful, we had 5 people and were about to forfeit the match.  We aren't short-handed because of Summer, you can tell nobody gives a shit anymore.  So I agree we should quit. Tim --- On Thu, 9/9/10, So 6 <so.c...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Mihran Papazian [GMAIL]]

Btw, I don’t know what happen to the poll, Shelly how many foreign teams did you get to contact ?

If 3 or 4 it's fair enough to send the cancelation letter to the league

 

Regards,
Mihran | 米然
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