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I’ve had no luck after pestering grad students here and trying to get in touch with my former Library of Congress contact. I can definitely adapt what I’ve been working on; will send along a draft tomorrow.

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Clancy Ratliff <clancy....@gmail.com>: May 27 02:07PM -0500

Has there been any interest in the sponsored panel? If not, I can probably
make my idea work for it.
 
 
 
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"Gainer, Kim" <kga...@RADFORD.EDU>: May 27 07:16PM

So far no proposals for the panel, just expressions of interest, so let’s build on yours. Laurie Cubbison might want to be a panelist, depending on the topic.
 
For the business meeting, I plan to upload language we’ve used previously, but I do need names of people who want to participate in some capacity. I’ll enter my name and Mike Edwards, of course, but need to hear from others.
 
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Has there been any interest in the sponsored panel? If not, I can probably make my idea work for it.
 
 
 
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On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 2:32 PM Gainer, Kim <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
Laurie Cubbison is going to post it on WPA-Announcements.
 
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Maybe Traci Gardner would be able to post it on WPA-Announcements. Thanks!
 
 
 
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On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 11:36 AM Gainer, Kim <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
Clancy,
 
Was there some way to share it out besides the Google group? Some sort of 4Cs platform? Sorry I didn't know that. And yes, adjusting the timeline would be fine. Even Friday, May 23, would work.
 
Best,
 
Kim
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Hi! Has this been shared out yet? If it hasn't, we may want to adjust the timeline a little, maybe have proposals due to us on Wednesday, May 22. How does that sound?
 
 
 
Clancy Ratliff, Ph.D.
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On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 10:23 AM Kim Gainer <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
Based on Clancy, Kyle, and Laurie's suggestions, here is a CFP for our Standing Group, cannibalized from the model Clancy shared. I'll send out the call for participants in the business meeting shortly.
 
 
Call for Proposals
 
Intellectual Property and “‘Computer Love’: Extended Play, B-sides, Remix, Collaboration, and Creativity”
 
CCCC Sponsored Panel | Intellectual Property Standing Group | April 2025 | Baltimore, MD
 
 
 
The Intellectual Property Standing Group is pleased to invite individual or panel proposals for our sponsored panel at CCCCs in Baltimore that respond to the spirit of the conference theme<https://cccc.ncte.org/cccc/call-2025>: “‘Computer Love’: Extended Play, B-sides, Remix, Collaboration, and Creativity.” We are interested in proposals that examine the challenges or opportunities faced by students, educators, and administrators as they navigate developments in intellectual property, especially in the context of GAI. Proposals might examine the pedagogical implications of student utilization of GAI or of faculty incorporation of GAI into course or assignment design. Proposals might also examine legal challenges to LLMs that may have implications for the nature and extent of GAI’s impact on education. These suggestions are meant to provide inspiration and not to limit proposals. We welcome individual proposals as well as complete panel proposals.
 
 
 
Proposal submission timeline
 
 
 
* Monday, May 20: Proposals due to the SG by midnight (email as Word document to kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>)
* Monday, May 27. Notifications about decisions regarding proposals sent
* Friday, May 31. CCCCs proposal deadline
 
 
 
Proposal suggestions
 
* Situate panel within current scholarship about intellectual property
* Follow 4Cs proposal guidelines regarding length of panel proposals, etc.
 
 
 
Questions? Contact one of our officers:
 
* Kim Gainer, Senior Chair (kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>)
* Mike Edwards, Junior Chair (pret...@gmail.com<mailto:pret...@gmail.com>)
 
 
 
On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 1:55:31 PM UTC-4 Laurie wrote:
 
For the sponsored session, I think a session on training data and IP in terms of the large language model would be good. In a sense, this is the next stage of the Turnitin problem.
 
 
 
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Folks,
 
 
 
Sorry if you receive this twice. I'm not sure an earlier message went through.
 
 
 
Kathy Anders chaired our 4Cs business meeting and will be reporting to 4Cs. (Kathy, maybe you could post it here as well.)
 
 
 
I will be senior chair, and Mike Edwards will be junior chair.
 
 
 
First order of business: planning for next year's sponsored panel.
 
 
 
Call for proposals at this link: https://cccc.ncte.org/cccc/call-2025
 
 
 
Convention theme: "Computer Love": Extended Play, B-sides, Remix, Collaboration, and Creativity
 
 
 
Extended list of Area Clusters at this link: https://cccc.ncte.org/cccc/conv/clusters.
 
 
 
Please go to those links, and then lets get a thread started here about how our sponsored panel can fit into the conversation.
 
 
 
Best,
 
 
 
Kim
 
 
 
 
 
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"Cubbison, Laurie" <lcub...@RADFORD.EDU>: May 27 07:26PM

I’d wanted to do something with the suits over training data, but I could also do something about teaching students to use AI critically.
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So far no proposals for the panel, just expressions of interest, so let’s build on yours. Laurie Cubbison might want to be a panelist, depending on the topic.
 
For the business meeting, I plan to upload language we’ve used previously, but I do need names of people who want to participate in some capacity. I’ll enter my name and Mike Edwards, of course, but need to hear from others.
 
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Has there been any interest in the sponsored panel? If not, I can probably make my idea work for it.
 
 
 
Clancy Ratliff, Ph.D.
Professor, Department of English
University of Louisiana at Lafayette
http://culturecat.net/portfolio/<http://culturecat.net/portfolio/>
 
 
On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 2:32 PM Gainer, Kim <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
Laurie Cubbison is going to post it on WPA-Announcements.
 
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Maybe Traci Gardner would be able to post it on WPA-Announcements. Thanks!
 
 
 
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University of Louisiana at Lafayette
http://culturecat.net/portfolio/
 
 
On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 11:36 AM Gainer, Kim <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
Clancy,
 
Was there some way to share it out besides the Google group? Some sort of 4Cs platform? Sorry I didn't know that. And yes, adjusting the timeline would be fine. Even Friday, May 23, would work.
 
Best,
 
Kim
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Hi! Has this been shared out yet? If it hasn't, we may want to adjust the timeline a little, maybe have proposals due to us on Wednesday, May 22. How does that sound?
 
 
 
Clancy Ratliff, Ph.D.
Professor, Department of English
University of Louisiana at Lafayette
http://culturecat.net/portfolio/
 
 
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 10:23 AM Kim Gainer <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
Based on Clancy, Kyle, and Laurie's suggestions, here is a CFP for our Standing Group, cannibalized from the model Clancy shared. I'll send out the call for participants in the business meeting shortly.
 
 
Call for Proposals
 
Intellectual Property and “‘Computer Love’: Extended Play, B-sides, Remix, Collaboration, and Creativity”
 
CCCC Sponsored Panel | Intellectual Property Standing Group | April 2025 | Baltimore, MD
 
 
 
The Intellectual Property Standing Group is pleased to invite individual or panel proposals for our sponsored panel at CCCCs in Baltimore that respond to the spirit of the conference theme<https://cccc.ncte.org/cccc/call-2025>: “‘Computer Love’: Extended Play, B-sides, Remix, Collaboration, and Creativity.” We are interested in proposals that examine the challenges or opportunities faced by students, educators, and administrators as they navigate developments in intellectual property, especially in the context of GAI. Proposals might examine the pedagogical implications of student utilization of GAI or of faculty incorporation of GAI into course or assignment design. Proposals might also examine legal challenges to LLMs that may have implications for the nature and extent of GAI’s impact on education. These suggestions are meant to provide inspiration and not to limit proposals. We welcome individual proposals as well as complete panel proposals.
 
 
 
Proposal submission timeline
 
 
 
* Monday, May 20: Proposals due to the SG by midnight (email as Word document to kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>)
* Monday, May 27. Notifications about decisions regarding proposals sent
* Friday, May 31. CCCCs proposal deadline
 
 
 
Proposal suggestions
 
* Situate panel within current scholarship about intellectual property
* Follow 4Cs proposal guidelines regarding length of panel proposals, etc.
 
 
 
Questions? Contact one of our officers:
 
* Kim Gainer, Senior Chair (kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>)
* Mike Edwards, Junior Chair (pret...@gmail.com<mailto:pret...@gmail.com>)
 
 
 
On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 1:55:31 PM UTC-4 Laurie wrote:
 
For the sponsored session, I think a session on training data and IP in terms of the large language model would be good. In a sense, this is the next stage of the Turnitin problem.
 
 
 
Dr. Laurie Cubbison Associate Chair
 
Professor Department of English
 
Box 6935 lcub...@radford.edu<mailto:lcub...@radford.edu>
 
Radford University To schedule appointments:
 
Radford VA 24142 https://calendly.com/lcubbiso/weekly-availability
 
 
 
From: intellectual-p...@googlegroups.com<mailto:intellectual-p...@googlegroups.com> <intellectual-p...@googlegroups.com<mailto:intellectual-p...@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kim Gainer
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Folks,
 
 
 
Sorry if you receive this twice. I'm not sure an earlier message went through.
 
 
 
Kathy Anders chaired our 4Cs business meeting and will be reporting to 4Cs. (Kathy, maybe you could post it here as well.)
 
 
 
I will be senior chair, and Mike Edwards will be junior chair.
 
 
 
First order of business: planning for next year's sponsored panel.
 
 
 
Call for proposals at this link: https://cccc.ncte.org/cccc/call-2025
 
 
 
Convention theme: "Computer Love": Extended Play, B-sides, Remix, Collaboration, and Creativity
 
 
 
Extended list of Area Clusters at this link: https://cccc.ncte.org/cccc/conv/clusters.
 
 
 
Please go to those links, and then lets get a thread started here about how our sponsored panel can fit into the conversation.
 
 
 
Best,
 
 
 
Kim
 
 
 
 
 
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Clancy Ratliff <clancy....@gmail.com>: May 27 02:28PM -0500

Oh, I can be part of the Standing Group Meeting.
 
 
 
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Jim Purdy <jpp...@hotmail.com>: May 27 07:34PM

Hi, Kim,
 
Thank you for organizing. My topic doesn't fit with the sponsored panel this year, but I'd like to be part of the business meeting.
 
Thank you,
Jim
 
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Oh, I can be part of the Standing Group Meeting.
 
 
 
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On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 2:16 PM Gainer, Kim <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
So far no proposals for the panel, just expressions of interest, so let’s build on yours. Laurie Cubbison might want to be a panelist, depending on the topic.
 
For the business meeting, I plan to upload language we’ve used previously, but I do need names of people who want to participate in some capacity. I’ll enter my name and Mike Edwards, of course, but need to hear from others.
 
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Has there been any interest in the sponsored panel? If not, I can probably make my idea work for it.
 
 
 
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On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 2:32 PM Gainer, Kim <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
Laurie Cubbison is going to post it on WPA-Announcements.
 
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Maybe Traci Gardner would be able to post it on WPA-Announcements. Thanks!
 
 
 
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On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 11:36 AM Gainer, Kim <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
Clancy,
 
Was there some way to share it out besides the Google group? Some sort of 4Cs platform? Sorry I didn't know that. And yes, adjusting the timeline would be fine. Even Friday, May 23, would work.
 
Best,
 
Kim
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Hi! Has this been shared out yet? If it hasn't, we may want to adjust the timeline a little, maybe have proposals due to us on Wednesday, May 22. How does that sound?
 
 
 
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On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 10:23 AM Kim Gainer <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
Based on Clancy, Kyle, and Laurie's suggestions, here is a CFP for our Standing Group, cannibalized from the model Clancy shared. I'll send out the call for participants in the business meeting shortly.
 
 
Call for Proposals
 
Intellectual Property and “‘Computer Love’: Extended Play, B-sides, Remix, Collaboration, and Creativity”
 
CCCC Sponsored Panel | Intellectual Property Standing Group | April 2025 | Baltimore, MD
 
 
 
The Intellectual Property Standing Group is pleased to invite individual or panel proposals for our sponsored panel at CCCCs in Baltimore that respond to the spirit of the conference theme<https://cccc.ncte.org/cccc/call-2025>: “‘Computer Love’: Extended Play, B-sides, Remix, Collaboration, and Creativity.” We are interested in proposals that examine the challenges or opportunities faced by students, educators, and administrators as they navigate developments in intellectual property, especially in the context of GAI. Proposals might examine the pedagogical implications of student utilization of GAI or of faculty incorporation of GAI into course or assignment design. Proposals might also examine legal challenges to LLMs that may have implications for the nature and extent of GAI’s impact on education. These suggestions are meant to provide inspiration and not to limit proposals. We welcome individual proposals as well as complete panel proposals.
 
 
 
Proposal submission timeline
 
 
 
* Monday, May 20: Proposals due to the SG by midnight (email as Word document to kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>)
* Monday, May 27. Notifications about decisions regarding proposals sent
* Friday, May 31. CCCCs proposal deadline
 
 
 
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* Situate panel within current scholarship about intellectual property
* Follow 4Cs proposal guidelines regarding length of panel proposals, etc.
 
 
 
Questions? Contact one of our officers:
 
* Kim Gainer, Senior Chair (kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>)
* Mike Edwards, Junior Chair (pret...@gmail.com<mailto:pret...@gmail.com>)
 
 
 
On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 1:55:31 PM UTC-4 Laurie wrote:
 
For the sponsored session, I think a session on training data and IP in terms of the large language model would be good. In a sense, this is the next stage of the Turnitin problem.
 
 
 
Dr. Laurie Cubbison Associate Chair
 
Professor Department of English
 
Box 6935 lcub...@radford.edu<mailto:lcub...@radford.edu>
 
Radford University To schedule appointments:
 
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Folks,
 
 
 
Sorry if you receive this twice. I'm not sure an earlier message went through.
 
 
 
Kathy Anders chaired our 4Cs business meeting and will be reporting to 4Cs. (Kathy, maybe you could post it here as well.)
 
 
 
I will be senior chair, and Mike Edwards will be junior chair.
 
 
 
First order of business: planning for next year's sponsored panel.
 
 
 
Call for proposals at this link: https://cccc.ncte.org/cccc/call-2025
 
 
 
Convention theme: "Computer Love": Extended Play, B-sides, Remix, Collaboration, and Creativity
 
 
 
Extended list of Area Clusters at this link: https://cccc.ncte.org/cccc/conv/clusters.
 
 
 
Please go to those links, and then lets get a thread started here about how our sponsored panel can fit into the conversation.
 
 
 
Best,
 
 
 
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"Gainer, Kim" <kga...@RADFORD.EDU>: May 27 07:38PM

Call for proposals read, “We are interested in proposals that examine the challenges or opportunities faced by students, educators, and administrators as they navigate developments in intellectual property, especially in the context of GAI. Proposals might examine the pedagogical implications of student utilization of GAI or of faculty incorporation of GAI into course or assignment design. Proposals might also examine legal challenges to LLMs that may have implications for the nature and extent of GAI’s impact on education.”
 
See spaces for three potential categories for panelists in that language:
 
pedagogical implications of student utilization
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Legal challenges to LLMs
 
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Oh, I can be part of the Standing Group Meeting.
 
 
 
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On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 2:16 PM Gainer, Kim <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
So far no proposals for the panel, just expressions of interest, so let’s build on yours. Laurie Cubbison might want to be a panelist, depending on the topic.
 
For the business meeting, I plan to upload language we’ve used previously, but I do need names of people who want to participate in some capacity. I’ll enter my name and Mike Edwards, of course, but need to hear from others.
 
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Has there been any interest in the sponsored panel? If not, I can probably make my idea work for it.
 
 
 
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On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 2:32 PM Gainer, Kim <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
Laurie Cubbison is going to post it on WPA-Announcements.
 
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Maybe Traci Gardner would be able to post it on WPA-Announcements. Thanks!
 
 
 
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On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 11:36 AM Gainer, Kim <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
Clancy,
 
Was there some way to share it out besides the Google group? Some sort of 4Cs platform? Sorry I didn't know that. And yes, adjusting the timeline would be fine. Even Friday, May 23, would work.
 
Best,
 
Kim
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Hi! Has this been shared out yet? If it hasn't, we may want to adjust the timeline a little, maybe have proposals due to us on Wednesday, May 22. How does that sound?
 
 
 
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On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 10:23 AM Kim Gainer <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
Based on Clancy, Kyle, and Laurie's suggestions, here is a CFP for our Standing Group, cannibalized from the model Clancy shared. I'll send out the call for participants in the business meeting shortly.
 
 
Call for Proposals
 
Intellectual Property and “‘Computer Love’: Extended Play, B-sides, Remix, Collaboration, and Creativity”
 
CCCC Sponsored Panel | Intellectual Property Standing Group | April 2025 | Baltimore, MD
 
 
 
The Intellectual Property Standing Group is pleased to invite individual or panel proposals for our sponsored panel at CCCCs in Baltimore that respond to the spirit of the conference theme<https://cccc.ncte.org/cccc/call-2025>: “‘Computer Love’: Extended Play, B-sides, Remix, Collaboration, and Creativity.” We are interested in proposals that examine the challenges or opportunities faced by students, educators, and administrators as they navigate developments in intellectual property, especially in the context of GAI. Proposals might examine the pedagogical implications of student utilization of GAI or of faculty incorporation of GAI into course or assignment design. Proposals might also examine legal challenges to LLMs that may have implications for the nature and extent of GAI’s impact on education. These suggestions are meant to provide inspiration and not to limit proposals. We welcome individual proposals as well as complete panel proposals.
 
 
 
Proposal submission timeline
 
 
 
* Monday, May 20: Proposals due to the SG by midnight (email as Word document to kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>)
* Monday, May 27. Notifications about decisions regarding proposals sent
* Friday, May 31. CCCCs proposal deadline
 
 
 
Proposal suggestions
 
* Situate panel within current scholarship about intellectual property
* Follow 4Cs proposal guidelines regarding length of panel proposals, etc.
 
 
 
Questions? Contact one of our officers:
 
* Kim Gainer, Senior Chair (kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>)
* Mike Edwards, Junior Chair (pret...@gmail.com<mailto:pret...@gmail.com>)
 
 
 
On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 1:55:31 PM UTC-4 Laurie wrote:
 
For the sponsored session, I think a session on training data and IP in terms of the large language model would be good. In a sense, this is the next stage of the Turnitin problem.
 
 
 
Dr. Laurie Cubbison Associate Chair
 
Professor Department of English
 
Box 6935 lcub...@radford.edu<mailto:lcub...@radford.edu>
 
Radford University To schedule appointments:
 
Radford VA 24142 https://calendly.com/lcubbiso/weekly-availability
 
 
 
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Folks,
 
 
 
Sorry if you receive this twice. I'm not sure an earlier message went through.
 
 
 
Kathy Anders chaired our 4Cs business meeting and will be reporting to 4Cs. (Kathy, maybe you could post it here as well.)
 
 
 
I will be senior chair, and Mike Edwards will be junior chair.
 
 
 
First order of business: planning for next year's sponsored panel.
 
 
 
Call for proposals at this link: https://cccc.ncte.org/cccc/call-2025
 
 
 
Convention theme: "Computer Love": Extended Play, B-sides, Remix, Collaboration, and Creativity
 
 
 
Extended list of Area Clusters at this link: https://cccc.ncte.org/cccc/conv/clusters.
 
 
 
Please go to those links, and then lets get a thread started here about how our sponsored panel can fit into the conversation.
 
 
 
Best,
 
 
 
Kim
 
 
 
 
 
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"Cubbison, Laurie" <lcub...@RADFORD.EDU>: May 27 07:41PM

Perhaps a pedagogy round table that emphasizes the IP issues involved in AI.
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On May 27, 2024, at 3:38 PM, Gainer, Kim <kga...@radford.edu> wrote:
 
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Call for proposals read, “We are interested in proposals that examine the challenges or opportunities faced by students, educators, and administrators as they navigate developments in intellectual property, especially in the context of GAI. Proposals might examine the pedagogical implications of student utilization of GAI or of faculty incorporation of GAI into course or assignment design. Proposals might also examine legal challenges to LLMs that may have implications for the nature and extent of GAI’s impact on education.”
 
See spaces for three potential categories for panelists in that language:
 
pedagogical implications of student utilization
Pedagogical implications of faculty utilization
Legal challenges to LLMs
 
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Oh, I can be part of the Standing Group Meeting.
 
 
 
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On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 2:16 PM Gainer, Kim <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
So far no proposals for the panel, just expressions of interest, so let’s build on yours. Laurie Cubbison might want to be a panelist, depending on the topic.
 
For the business meeting, I plan to upload language we’ve used previously, but I do need names of people who want to participate in some capacity. I’ll enter my name and Mike Edwards, of course, but need to hear from others.
 
Kim
 
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Has there been any interest in the sponsored panel? If not, I can probably make my idea work for it.
 
 
 
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On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 2:32 PM Gainer, Kim <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
Laurie Cubbison is going to post it on WPA-Announcements.
 
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Maybe Traci Gardner would be able to post it on WPA-Announcements. Thanks!
 
 
 
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On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 11:36 AM Gainer, Kim <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
Clancy,
 
Was there some way to share it out besides the Google group? Some sort of 4Cs platform? Sorry I didn't know that. And yes, adjusting the timeline would be fine. Even Friday, May 23, would work.
 
Best,
 
Kim
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Hi! Has this been shared out yet? If it hasn't, we may want to adjust the timeline a little, maybe have proposals due to us on Wednesday, May 22. How does that sound?
 
 
 
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On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 10:23 AM Kim Gainer <kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>> wrote:
Based on Clancy, Kyle, and Laurie's suggestions, here is a CFP for our Standing Group, cannibalized from the model Clancy shared. I'll send out the call for participants in the business meeting shortly.
 
 
Call for Proposals
 
Intellectual Property and “‘Computer Love’: Extended Play, B-sides, Remix, Collaboration, and Creativity”
 
CCCC Sponsored Panel | Intellectual Property Standing Group | April 2025 | Baltimore, MD
 
 
 
The Intellectual Property Standing Group is pleased to invite individual or panel proposals for our sponsored panel at CCCCs in Baltimore that respond to the spirit of the conference theme<https://cccc.ncte.org/cccc/call-2025>: “‘Computer Love’: Extended Play, B-sides, Remix, Collaboration, and Creativity.” We are interested in proposals that examine the challenges or opportunities faced by students, educators, and administrators as they navigate developments in intellectual property, especially in the context of GAI. Proposals might examine the pedagogical implications of student utilization of GAI or of faculty incorporation of GAI into course or assignment design. Proposals might also examine legal challenges to LLMs that may have implications for the nature and extent of GAI’s impact on education. These suggestions are meant to provide inspiration and not to limit proposals. We welcome individual proposals as well as complete panel proposals.
 
 
 
Proposal submission timeline
 
 
 
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* Monday, May 27. Notifications about decisions regarding proposals sent
* Friday, May 31. CCCCs proposal deadline
 
 
 
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* Situate panel within current scholarship about intellectual property
* Follow 4Cs proposal guidelines regarding length of panel proposals, etc.
 
 
 
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* Kim Gainer, Senior Chair (kga...@radford.edu<mailto:kga...@radford.edu>)
* Mike Edwards, Junior Chair (pret...@gmail.com<mailto:pret...@gmail.com>)
 
 
 
On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 1:55:31 PM UTC-4 Laurie wrote:
 
For the sponsored session, I think a session on training data and IP in terms of the large language model would be good. In a sense, this is the next stage of the Turnitin problem.
 
 
 
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Folks,
 
 
 
Sorry if you receive this twice. I'm not sure an earlier message went through.
 
 
 
Kathy Anders chaired our 4Cs business meeting and will be reporting to 4Cs. (Kathy, maybe you could post it here as well.)
 
 
 
I will be senior chair, and Mike Edwards will be junior chair.
 
 
 
First order of business: planning for next year's sponsored panel.
 
 
 
Call for proposals at this link: https://cccc.ncte.org/cccc/call-2025
 
 
 
Convention theme: "Computer Love": Extended Play, B-sides, Remix, Collaboration, and Creativity
 
 
 
Extended list of Area Clusters at this link: https://cccc.ncte.org/cccc/conv/clusters.
 
 
 
Please go to those links, and then lets get a thread started here about how our sponsored panel can fit into the conversation.
 
 
 
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Karen Lunsford <klun...@writing.ucsb.edu>: May 27 05:16PM -0700

Hi Kim,
I am part of another formal panel (re: the Wayfinding project), but I would
like to be part of the business meeting.
 
Re: a discussion table. My thinking lately aligns with work in
makerspaces/crafting as rhetoric. I've been *informally* tracking questions
of copyright, AI-generated images and patterns, and creativity in online
venues (websites, Facebook pages, Amazon) dedicated to embroidery. AI
images of embroidery, for example, present *impossible-to-do* samples of
hand embroidery, yet they generate revenue in these venues because the
'embroidery' looks so amazing that the images go viral. Discussions over
IP, defining real embroidery, the discouraging effect of these fake images
on folks new to the craft, and so on then ensue. As Jim and I found in our
IP book, there are copyright laws and, even more importantly, there are
interpretations of (presumed) copyright laws that govern interactions among
crafters in these spaces. I'm interested in the policing and self-policing
re: IP that members of these communities engage in. I haven't started a
formal study yet, and I'm stretched very thin through next year, but I
would like to discuss the topic with anyone interested.
 
Thank you for organizing, Karen
 
 
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Mike, that would be great. Panel is shaping up to be you, Clancy, and Laurie. I'll chair. We'll need a respondent. Once I've posted the draft of the panel, with your three parts included, we'll see who would be interested in serving in that role.

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