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ASUS + Via + Intel + Nvidia + Tekram is sooo Sloooooow

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mijn news.xs4all.nl

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Oct 31, 2000, 8:48:54 PM10/31/00
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Dear friends,

I bought following setup not so long ago:

ASUS p34vx with 128 (133Mhz) DRAM, VIA chipset, now with bios 1.06
INTEL Pentium III 600 Mhz (133FSB) processor
ASUS 6800 Deluxe (Nvidia geforce)
Tekram 390 (160) SCSI card
ibm 45 gig UDMA66 and fastest scsi 9gig drive one zip-250 drive
added a realtek 8029 pci networkcard that i saved from an older
configuration as well as a plextor 40x scsi cd-rom and a plextor 4-2-20 cd
writer
i have used both default settings in the bios as well as maximum performance
settings -still at 600 Mhz for my processor though-

and i installed
Windows ME , with asus 5.33 6800 videodriver, pccillin (part of the mb
package)
i installed office2000, and all of the latest ASUS drivers for e.g. VIA
i installed my printersoftware (HP3100 all-in-one laserjet) and my scanner
(HP5200C-usb)
and i have used memturbo and zonealarm.
i have put my swapfile on the fastest (scsi) disk

I got suspicious about the performance of my setup, when i experienced
relatively slow startups of ME and slow startups of programs in ME.

A friend of mine has the following setup
AOPEN 6ABplus with BX chipset, all is operating at 66 Mhz FSB.
one intel Pentium II processor operating at 233 Mhz
128 Mb (66Mhz) Ram
integrated scsi controller
matrox ... G200 videocard
an UDMA33 IDE disk and a 5 years old scsi disk
he uses one ide cd-rom (aopen) and one scsi cd-writer (yamaha 4-4-16)
he has installed a printer (hp970) and a scanner (epson) as well as an older
epson printer by using an extra -isa- lpt card.

With this memturbo software one can see how much load the processor has at a
certain time.

Guess what:
this guys setup outperforms (stopwatch) my setup with a factor 2 !!!!!!!!!!
also when looking at processor load one could imagine that a pentium III at
600 Mhz should outperform a pentium II at 233 Mhz. This is not the case. My
processor load is almost all of the time near a 100% (ranges form 60 to
100), when his processor load is sometimes near hundred percent (range 30 -
100) but more often at 75.

How can this be?
Anyone?
I tried various settings in the bios. Through ctrl-alt-del and killing
certain programs in memory (like the antivirus, the asusprobe and
smartdoctor software) i got a slightly better picture, but still worse then
the old setup of one of my friends!

Is this because the combination of P3V4X with an Asus geforce card (that
promises to unload the cpu!!) sucks?
Should i change some components?
Or can a motherboard with a VIA chipset never compete with a motherboard
with an older Intel BX chipset. (eventhough there should be a big difference
from the processor alone)

I am completely puzzled. I do not know what to do. Can anyone think why this
happens. Does anyone have a clue how to corrrect this?

Otherwise i should probably sell my stuff and buy the older technology, as
it seems to work better.

Although the setup itself is mostly stable enough to working uninterrupted
for one and a half to two hours, i bought this kit to have a faster
machine....

If anyone can help. great
wim


neopolaris

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Oct 31, 2000, 9:36:12 PM10/31/00
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Hit CTRL+ALT+DEL How many apps are running. BTW don't use any memory
manager type programs. Their outdated and mostly written for Win95 and just
carried over to 98...
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mijn news.xs4all.nl

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Nov 1, 2000, 8:45:48 PM11/1/00
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As i said, i did hit ctrl-alt-del to get rid of all kinds of programs,
including the windows display properties program of asus as well as several
others. The memturbo package is especially geared toward win98se and me, so
that could not be the problem. Also when judging the performance when all
those "extra"programs were closed that did not do the trick really! Still
going slooow.
so
any other idea's except form other friends, who told me
to get rid of tekram and use adaptec instead
or better to not use scsi at all as this does not increase your start-up and
operating speed (although the scsi-160 should be faster than my
udma-66/100..)
to not use via chipsets
to not use usb and get rid of the useless drivers in windows
to not use win me, because both win 2k and win98 were better then this
or ?

thanx for your help guys

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Frank

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Nov 2, 2000, 3:31:05 PM11/2/00
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I have WinMe installed on my computer as well and WinMe has a lot of over
head. It has the system restore feature which causes some overhead. You can
disable it by going to the Performance tab under your system properties.
Clicking file system. then click the troubleshooting tab and theres a box
that says disable system restore. Also there are apps that run in the
background that dont show up in the ctrl-alt-del box. Like pc-health. this
monitors all of what it considers your important files and replaces them if
they are overwritten by another program. this can be disabled as well. If
you go to your system tools and click the system information tool. Then
click the tools button and use the system configuration utility. there you
can select what programs start up when you start your computer. PC health is
under the startup tab. Also your whole registry is stored in ram when you
start your computer. So if you have programs that you dont use uninstall
them. and get rid of any stuff that you dont need. I usually delete any kind
of read me files and licnese agreement texts. Try it out and see if it helps
you any. It has for me

Frank


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Nov 2, 2000, 3:56:21 PM11/2/00
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THANX FRANK,
ESPECIALLY YOUR COMMENTS AND THOS OF MARK HAVE HELPED ME A LOT
wim

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enormus

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Nov 2, 2000, 7:11:10 PM11/2/00
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Kill System restore and PC Health. They are performance death.

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