From: "nsp_p...@in.com" <nsp_p...@in.com>
To: Insurance surveyors <insurance...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009 10:03:04 PM
Subject: {Surveyors939} Re: chargesheet againt surveyors
Mr Jha,
I have been observing that you have a penchant for provoking others
and taking an unpopular view, Do you do it wantonly just for fun or do
you really feel that way. An Honest Answer Mr Jha,
Sai Prasad
On Jun 10, 9:03 pm, amar kant jha <
amarkant...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Sir,
> Thanks for assessing me, APNEY DIL SE PUCHEY PAREY DIL KA HAL.
> KABIRA KHARA BAZAR MEY LEY
LUKARI HATH, JO GHAR JAREY APNA CHLEY HAMREY SATH.
> Thanks again for utilizing your experience in assessment of my character.
> Amar Kant Jha
> 0933-47-84485
> PATNA
> 10.06.2009
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rafiq Ahmed Shah <
sabrhassocia...@gmail.com>
> To:
insurance...@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:39:20 PM
> Subject: {Surveyors936} Re: chargesheet againt surveyors
>
> On 6/10/09, Rafiq Ahmed Shah <
sabrhassocia...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
> > Dear Amarkant,
> > I don't want to speak more on the issue but do you think the virus of
> > common cold & that of Aids is same both are viruses & if somebody has
> > cold he may have aids also or will definitely get one day this virus
> > too. Surprising & amasing too. Great sence of humor. Really
> > appreciable & cautious.
> > Keep it up do asyou practice as your words speak. Good Luck
>
> > With warm regards
> > Rafiq Ahmad Shah
> > Surveyor / Loss Adjuster
>
> > On 6/10/09, amar kant jha <
amarkant...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Dear Varun,
> >> Thanks for providing your name as HONEST. Remember this word. Now
> >> explain
> >>
me, How you are honest as man? Have never hurt any body for your
> >> satisfaction, Have never disturb any bodies life, for your satisfaction.
> >> If
> >> YES, You are Honest.
> >> If your Honesty is only of Illegal money in Survey, Then I can say you
> >> are
> >> tool of Underwriter for not assessing loss WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
> >> One of our senior member from J&K says, I am advocating CORRUPTION, No
> >> Sir
> >> NOT AT ALL. I am saying that HAR SAKH PE ULLU BAITHA HAI, ANJAMEY
> >> GULISTAN
> >> KAYA HOGA.
> >> Before blaming any one, Scan your self, if you find your self VIRUS FREE,
> >> You can blame, If not better maintain silence.
> >> I once again thanks to those Surveyors, Who declare them self HONEST,
> >> Brother keep going.
>
>> Amar Kant Jha
> >> 0933-47-84485
> >> PATNA
> >> 10.06.2009
>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Varun Gawarikar <
varun.gawari...@gmail.com>
> >> To:
insurance...@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:27:53 PM
> >> Subject: {Surveyors927} Re: chargesheet againt surveyors
>
> >> Mr. Jha,
>
> >> When you speak that entire community is corrupt, please speak for
> >> yourself and voice it as your personal non binding opinion.
>
> >> I am a part of this community since past 7 years now and
we have a
> >> reputation of being 'HONEST'. There are no two ways to it, like you
> >> claim. You either are or are not.
>
> >> On 6/10/09, Rafiq Ahmed Shah <
sabrhassocia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Dear Sanjay,
> >>> I appreciate your concern. There is victimizations of the surveyors
> >>> which
> >>> need to be checked. However surveyor is the first witness to the claim &
> >>> the
> >>> last one to frame the opinion & recommend for indemnification. We need
> >>> to
> >>> be
> >>> careful. Regarding the surveyors in the net when i learn through the
> >>> mail
> >>> of
> >>> Mr Anoop Kumar that he is no
more with us I don't want to make further
> >>> comments. May God Bless his Soul & help his family.
> >>> I am again surprised by the comments of Mr Amar Kant jaa who is in mood
> >>> of
> >>> accepting there are majority of surveyors whose integrity is never
> >>> doubtful
> >>> come what may. He is saying that corruption is not only monetary i
> >>> agree
> >>> to
> >>> him, but that does not mean that we should start with monetary
> >>> corruption
> >>> also as any way the system is corrupt.He appears to be a senior surveyor
> >>> &
> >>> should have encouraged Mr Ragwan who came forward to his challenge of
> >>> being
> >>> honest with an experience of 9 years rather he wrote that wait & watch
>
>>> &
> >>> one day you will one among the corrupt.Amar Kant is really a man of guts
> >>> who
> >>> openly is advocating the corruption & making opinion on seeing the
> >>> mirror
> >>> sitting in front of it.
> >>> One wanted to narrate a story from last few days regarding a senior
> >>> surveyor
> >>> in RO & HO panel. During the earthquake of 2005 in Srinagar & adjacent
> >>> areas
> >>> the insurance companies imported surveyors of there choice from rest of
> >>> India. One such surveyor based in Chandigarh had visited Tangdar a
> >>> frontier
> >>> district & surveyed one unit with Sum Insurance Rs 50,000/-. He later
> >>> called
> >>> the insured to submit the documents. The poor insured
whose house was
> >>> also
> >>> lost had nothing to manage to go the long way . He had a cow valuing
> >>> about
> >>> Rs15,000/-. He sold it for Rs10,000/- & went with whatever documents he
> >>> could maanage as the villages itself had got under the debris. He met
> >>> him
> >>> &
> >>> later asked to pay Rs 15000/- as he has to pay in the hierarchy of
> >>> insurance
> >>> Company . The poor insured pleaded before him regarding his plight &
> >>> finally paid him Rs7000/- out of whatever he had with as the rest of the
> >>> money was used for the travelling as it is 2 days journey . To his
> >>> utter
> >>> surprise he was informed by the insurance Company later that the
> >>>
surveyor
> >>> has reported that his unit was non existing as he was unable to see the
> >>> same. When the insured narrated to me this event after 8 months in May
> >>> 2006
> >>> when i was deputed by the court to survey some loss which were not
> >>> entertained by the insurance companies & had approached the court.
> >>> Really
> >>> tears fell down of eyes seeking at the plight of the insured who had
> >>> lost
> >>> everything to the earthquake & the cow to my profession. The surveyor is
> >>> an
> >>> influential person however if he is caught some time or the other
> >>> definitely
> >>> has to be what all us will say ------------- " SURVEYORS ARE
> >>> VICTIMIZED".
> >>> Sorry i am not the one to say so because it
is old proverb "AS YOU SOW
> >>> SO
> >>> SHALL YOU REAP" .
> >>> Regarding staying in odd conditions as stated by Mr Amar Kant i need
> >>> clarifications what are the odd conditions but i believe in the verse of
> >>> a
> >>> great poet Dr Sir Mohammad Iqbal " KHUDI NA BAICH GAREEBI MAI MUQAM
> >>> PAIDA
> >>> KAR" . (Do sell yourself make name while you are poor). Dear Amarkant
> >>> a
> >>> person should always see big dreams & work to make them real with his
> >>> real,
> >>> handwork & honesty. It is better to remain low profile rather then
> >>> selling
> >>> ones dignity for money.
> >>> Make fair opinions dear.
>
> >>> With best regards
>
> >>> Rafiq Ahmad
Shah
> >>> Surveyor / Loss Adjuster
>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Sanjay Shaw <
skshaw2...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> To,
> >>>> M/S Sishil Maroo & Co,
> >>>> Dear Friends,
> >>>> We are well aware about the de-humiliated act of IPC 498 , Bilateral
> >>>> mental
> >>>> torture on issuement of Charge sheet which means INVESTIGATION IS GOING
> >>>> ON
> >>>> .
> >>>> and not yet proven.
> >>>> It's totally depends up the bearing capacity (mental/ Financial /Social
> >>>> /
> >>>> environmental / & lots of ) of the charged person to whom charge
sheet
> >>>> have
> >>>> been issued to fight against the charge to prove as wrong charges.
> >>>> So defaming a surveyor on forum whose charge sheet have not yet proven
> >>>> is
> >>>> act of some thing wrong and cause in question of surveyor's unity.
> >>>> We know the fact and finding about the reason of a surveyor to go under
> >>>> the
> >>>> clutches of the ill fated insurance professional and our surveyor
> >>>> committed
> >>>> crime ignorantly under the processes of different environmental/
> >>>> circumstances factors That our IIISLA should think over it to save our
> >>>> surveyor brother to escape out from a future victim.
> >>>> CAN WE SAY IT IS CRIME:-
>
> >>>> 1.
Claim officer / a development officer / & a surveyor are
> >>>> examining
> >>>> a
> >>>> 6 round revolver to search about it's operation of working . By any
> >>>> means
> >>>> Bullet came out and Development officers died at spot. On process of
> >>>> policc
> >>>> investigation at different Liquor bar / Insurance office / claimant
> >>>> ,
> >>>> State
> >>>> Issued a charge sheet against surveyor with all possible IPC
> >>>> Imposition
>
> >>>> It is the duty of the IIISLA & Regulator to make a proper platform to
> >>>> support surveyor i.e. as an example :- replacement labor cost of Fr
> >>>> bumper. so that our
surveyor brother will not go under bargain
> >>>> clutches of the repairer or insurer professional to get assessment
> >>>> acceptance note confidently and independently ( this is simple example
> >>>> for
> >>>> start up).
>
> >>>> OK I am Independent I am practicing without pressure , You are
> >>>> independent
> >>>> You are practice unbiased. and that charged sheeted surveyor is also
> >>>> independent but he have got charge sheet. Can we call any our report
> >>>> assessment on forum i.e. You and me to discussed to prove unbiased.
>
> >>>> SORRY WE ARE COMMITTING CRIME EVERY STEP OF OUR LOSS ADJUSTMENT LIFE
> >>>> BUT
> >>>> WE ARE NOT READY TO ACCEPT IT . BE LEAVE ME IT IS NOT OUR FAULT IT IS
>
>>>> FAULT
> >>>> OF OUR REGULATOR AND IIISLA..
>
> >>>> lot of things to say that can not be explain in single mail.
> >>>> But it is our request as not to blame a charge sheeted surveyor on
> >>>> forum.
> >>>> I am having lot of tested photo of claim of different surveyor but I
> >>>> will
> >>>> not utilise these as instrument because they are our surveyor brother
> >>>> and
> >>>> received later on original one.
> >>>> Let us unite to develop such a IIISLA that our surveyor will not be
> >>>> part
> >>>> of
> >>>> victim in future.
> >>>> with regards
> >>>> sanjay Shaw.
> >>>> 98310 85519
>
> >>>> On 6/10/09, Sushil Maroo
& Co. <
mar...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Honesty doesn't require certification. Once again in the forum, main
> >>>>> issue
> >>>>> came on side and personal
>
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