Insurance Surveyor arrested in Kerala for demanding bribe

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S. Anoop Kumar

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Aug 29, 2018, 1:38:53 PM8/29/18
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A surveyor hailing from Rajahmundry, Andhra Pradesh, got arrested by Kerala Police, for demanding bribe from a flood victim to make a favourable report.  The news is flashed in Kerala media.

Such a shame for the entire community of insurance surveyors for such fellows are vultures prying on dead bodies.  Disgusting to say the least.

S. Anoop Kumar.
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S. Anoop Kumar

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Aug 29, 2018, 1:58:06 PM8/29/18
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Entire world is extending a helping hand in every way possible to reach out and rebuild Kerala.  A 6 year girl has donated her piggy bank savings, another girl suffering from a heart ailment donated a part of the money meant for her treatment collected by way of crowd funding.

And we have this fellow who is arrested by the police on charges of corruption for demanding bribe from a flood victim who suffered a huge loss. I hang my head in shame for such a lowly act committed by a fellow from our fraternity. 

S. Anoop Kumar.

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Aug 29, 2018, 8:09:12 PM8/29/18
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Kerala surveyors please forward your report based on the initial observations and findings with press clippings to IIISLA CC as well as AP Chapter to initiate the disciplinary proceedings against the surveyor.

S. Anoop Kumar.

Manish Vaidya

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Aug 30, 2018, 12:30:08 AM8/30/18
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Dear all ,

 

Per this  report,  now further to  be investigated and disclosed that Mumbai based which  firm  – surveyor  company or insurance company…..

 

Contract  surveyor - black sheep in our group ????

 

Rgds

 

Manish Vaidya,Indore

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S. Anoop Kumar

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Aug 30, 2018, 2:28:11 AM8/30/18
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Dear Sir,

It's not just greed. The surveyor acted more like a monster or devil's incarnation in such a situation and brought disrepute to the entire community of insurance surveyors. The fall out consequences would be hard on the surveyors making their job real tough and difficult.

Regards, 
S Anoop Kumar. 

On Thu 30 Aug, 2018, 11:52 'raghavan kodoth' via Insurance Surveyors India, <insurance-su...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
It is a pity that greed has prevailed on him in such a situation. It has made every Surveyor's job more difficult as the claimants also will now use the same stick (of police complaint) to get what they demand.

K.P.Raghavan
On Thursday, 30 August, 2018, 9:12:22 AM IST, 'Raj Kumar Khetarpal' via Insurance Surveyors India <insurance-su...@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Dear Friends,
                    Such typy of people are black spot to the community. A strict action should be taken against such greedy people.

Regards,

R. K. Khetarpal
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On Thu, 30/8/18, Mudigonda nageswara rao <highflyin...@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: Insurance Surveyor arrested in Kerala for demanding bribe
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Date: Thursday, 30 August, 2018, 9:03 AM

dear sir,
it
reflects the attitude of surveyor towards the situation and
inturns
the whole character all along. such
character should be weeded out to
cleanse
the profession.
M.Nageswara Rao
Ex -ASHOk LEYLAND SERVICE ENGINEER
CELL NO.9491663955


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nitin mehrotra

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Aug 30, 2018, 4:23:18 AM8/30/18
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really shamefull

with warm regards.........

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Chand Bhatia

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Aug 30, 2018, 4:38:45 AM8/30/18
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Dear All, 
There is phrase that "one dirty fish spoils the whole pond.". The news paper report head line staates SURVEYOR ARRESTED". Such a head line makes every surveyor's head down. I wonder that when the entire world is extending a hand of help, how a person can be so insensitive. 

But I would also like to add that blaming the surveyor only is not totally right.This case may not be the first case from surveyor. The company who empanelled him and the officers who had been utilising his services shall also be found to be part of this booty. Proper investigation shall bring these facts to light.  This remind me the 190th LAW COMMISSION REPORT, which clearly stated that there is a nexus of claim dealing insurance officers/staff with some privileged surveyors and most of the claims are shared by such surveyors only. This case shall prove this observation of law commission to be correct. But will IRDA take cognizance of this and make some arrangements that interest of policy holders is protected. I am deliberately not asking IIISLA, where there is no thinking to protect the interest of policy holders.  

But I condemn the incidence and request IIISLA to issue a statement of condemning the incidence. 

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Dadashree.Sharma

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Sep 2, 2018, 1:54:52 AM9/2/18
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Dear All:
Really very shameful, if anybody tried to disrupt the profession by demanding the bribe from any victim of so deadly flood. It is well known that it is a National Loss and the people are helping from all sides. 
I am Sorry to say that the story published in News Paper is not believable. It seems totally fabricated. To blame the surveyor is a fashion and to act against the surveyor is very soft for the police and the claimant. We face this type of the allegation at every station. Anybody who is interested in the fake claim and has good relationships with police or favorable situation is free to blame the surveyor. This is only the blame, not the proved crime but my community have declared him the culprit. I should appreciate, that my community is so sensitive that they can access the situation even in the advance.
I will thank those who have expressed their concerned about the dignity of IIISLA and surveyor community. Wonderful, they are interested to hang the Black Sheep Allare senior surveyor we must regard their statements, but I will not be convinced before any conviction by some proper authority. If the Blame is totally fabricated and proved by the court then it will be a shame for my community. 
Respected Members, I now that the situation in Kerala need immediate relief and the Insurance claim should be settled on priority, We can help the people by our fast and prompt services. I believe that the people of Kerala are very honest even then the possibility to misuse the situation cannot be avoided. If our member fenced any such fabricated situation by some opportunist will we stand with him or live him alone to face the blame of profession. 
The explanation made by Sh. C.K. Bhatia is the matter of research, he confirms that the incident is true and coops up by the insurance co. officials. It is going on in routine. Sir, in any case, if the incident found baseless fake allegations only and the surveyor found to be innocent( I am of the opinion that the surveyor cannot play so big game, the story is fabricated) then should we stand with him, have we any platform to help him? 
This is the first not the last case and will more and more not only in Kerala but from the other parts of India, will you blame for all surveyor to be corrupt. Will, you found yourself to work independently, To alleged only is not any crime we should protect the member if he is innocent, we should not try to prove him guilty before any judgment from the court. we would have to face the situation to maintain the sovereignty and reliability and Are you not playing a political Game. I will appreciate your keenness of the members about the community but I found them silent about the upliftment of the community.
The reactions on board cannot be appreciated and seem biased without any authenticity merely based on a story fabricated, manipulated by police and claimant to fetch out some benefits out of the situation. 


DADASHREE.SHARMA  

Ashraff Tim

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Sep 2, 2018, 3:36:11 AM9/2/18
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Sharmaji,
You have always been very analytical in your write ups on various issues, but your outright rejection of the matter which was reported with ample evidence, I am sorry to say that it sounds like the words of Arnab Goswamy, who called all Keralites as cheats.

Do you think that a person suffered a loss in the devastating flood would ever make a statement against a Surveyor whom he knows has come to help him to recover his loss suffered from the worst hit calamity recently reported in our country. 

Do you have any piece of evidence that the insured in this case has made a false allegation, and the Kerala Police, considered one of the best lot  in India, knowing the status of Surveyors in Kerala, would ever move against a responsible person of high repute. Oh! Come on Sharmaji, your allegation is worst than of the person who demanded commission  from a flood Victim, I regret to say

Best Regards
Tim


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Dear Mr J K Sharma, 

I will go with Mr. TIM on the issue and certainly not let the culpable surveyor go free in the spirit and tone that you have expressed. I, in my earlier mail to the subject, had mentioned that surveyor has devalued and demolished the reputation of profession and fraternity. I demanded proper investigation and expressed my doubt that no surveyor can ever indulge in such shameful activity unless and otherwise there is a support and involvement of the corrupt insurance company officer. I therefore demanded that the respective authorities be it police, IRDAI or any other should not blame the surveyor only but should get more to find the hands behind it. 

But I agree to Mr. Sharma to the extent that we should not beet the drums of the incidence by totally blaming the entire fraternity and also seeking suspension of IIISLA membership etc. IIISLA neither has such powers nor this will show any maturity to act without proper investigation and punishment by respective authorities, which shall be courts and courts only. 

Meanwhile I have come to know that  Policy Holders in Kerala has started declining the survey to be done by surveyors from outside like Delhi etc. not only because of this incidence, but also in the end the surveyor leaving for his places and delays in claims. I wish this aspect should be noted by IRDAI and should ensure that a surveyor does not go country wide only because he is liked by an insurance company officer. Otherwise such incidence are bound to happen. We have seen in the past such happenings in Kashmir, empanelment scandle in Delhi, Chandigarh and many other places. 

I also endorse  Mr. Pandiyan's view when wrote in one of his mail on IDV negotiation, when IRDAI had fined RGIC. Mr Pandiyan warned surveyors that if surveyors do not take note of such penalties, day shall not be far of when this can happen with surveyors also. SURVEYORS MUST LEARN HOW TO WORK AND DEAL PROFESSIONALLY WITH INSURED WITHOUT VIOLATING THEIR OWN CODE OF CONDUCT. 

C K BHATIA

Sanjay Singh

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Sep 3, 2018, 10:38:25 AM9/3/18
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Dear Mr Tim,



Of course Mr sharma should not have given such statement without any
evidence proving the allegation of insured wrong.

But in my opinion even you should also restrict yourself because you
also must not be having any evidence against the alleged surveyor.

Lodging FIR and arresting some body does not mean that he is guilty.
This has to be decided by the court of law.

Plz don't trial on this board.


On 9/3/18, Ashish Paul <ak.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No doubt, he has deminished image of surveyor fraternity.he must be
> punished for this heartless job,now his innocent dependent can be rescue if
> he become witness &disclose the involvement teams if realy working behind
> becouse surveyors are simply vendor and such bulk job have to be purchase
> frequently.
>
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018, 20:58 Binu Varkey, <binu.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Surveyors,
>> It is a fact that Mr.Uma Mahewara Rao has taken bribe. Please check the
>> following Link.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/cU6eC-48qQU
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> Binu Varkey
>> Insurance Surveyor
>> SLA-57661, F/S/02399
>> Mob:9447187319
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 1:06 PM Ashraff Tim <tim56....@gmail.com>
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Dear Surveyors,
  It is a fact that Mr.Uma Mahewara Rao has taken bribe. Please check the following Link.


Regards


Binu Varkey
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