To,
IRDA,
www.insurance-surveyors.com have received requests from following 106 surveyors in opposition of CATEGORIZATION. Please take the same on record. Apart from these many more are already sent to you by our colleagues from various forums, to whom this email is marked for adding in the list to create a single record, for circulation to all concerned.
Shailesh Shah
License no. SLA-47537 Exp. 22/06/2009
Surveyors
1. 'Sanjay Shaw';
2. 'Sushil Maroo & Co.';
3. 'sanjay gupta';
4. 'MRINAL';
5. 'nitulkotoki';
6. 'akb_dmr';
7. 'siddhantasankar';
8. 'satishsaran';
9. 'suds...@yahoo.com';
10. 'sankar_roy_surveyor';
11. 'skshaw2007';
12. 'Tapan Barua';
13. 'VIPUL I. SHAH SURVEYOR';
14. 'vijay...@yahoo.com';
15. 'vidyart...@gmail.com';
16. 'vikas';
17. 'Vinod Sabharwal';
18. 'vkg...@gmail.com';
19. 'vemula Lakshminarsayya';
20. 'vipul...@yahoo.co.in';
21. 'vi...@wilsur.com';
22. 'Vipul Gosalia';
23. 'vkg...@rediffmail.com';
24. 'yudhveer nayyar';
25. 'psingh...@gmail.com';
26. 'Apex Surveyors';
27. 'Mani Thiyagarajan';
28. 'Sushil Maroo & Co.';
29. 'Manoj Bhargava';
30. 'Janardhan Mallaya';
31. 'subhash garg';
32. 'mines...@rediffmail.com';
33. 'MNR ASSOCIATES';
34. 'Sushil Maroo & Co.';
35. 'SUNDARESAN SWAMINATHAN';
36. 'Muninder Prasad';
37. 'mrinal...@sify.com';
38. 'Vinod Agrawal';
39. 'ajitsah...@gmail.com';
40. 'ags...@eth.net';
41. 'UTS Deepak Kapoor'
42. 'P.C SHUKLA';
43. 'sumant sud';
44. 'A.S.Antony Raj';
45. 'chandra dasaraju';
46. 'dalje...@gmail.com';
47. 'iye...@sancharnet.in';
48. 'Shri Amol Indra Kumar Bora';
49. 'Amol borkhade';
50. 'Hemal Patel';
51. 'ZO Paharia I M Mr';
52. 'ivln...@gmail.com';
53. 'krishnama chari -'; 'khubchan...@airtelbroadband.in';
54. 'Kaplesh Bayala';
55. 'dinanath khedkar';
56. 'raghavan kodoth';
57. 'K D Kohli';
58. 'Kishor Saboo';
59. 'kothar...@yahoo.com';
60. 'Z Kavadia C K';
61. 'lalit dudeja';
62. 'Mani Thiyagarajan';
63. 'subhash garg';
64. 'sai prasad';
65. 'NITUL KOTOKI';
66. 'NEELAKANTAN R';
67. 'prabhat srivastava';
68. 'ZO Desai Mr Gautam Vapi';
69. 'ZO Gahoi Mr Pankaj Indore';
70. 'gajjala reddy';
71. 'ZO Dave G P & Sons Pankaj Bhai';
72. 'Gautam Basu';
73. 'HITESH SKAR';
74. 'Hemant';
75. 'Husain';
76. 'Insurance Samachar';
77. 'ARUN kumar';
78. 'ZO Gupta Mr Anand Vapi';
79. 'ZO Goyal Sunil Mr Sawai Madhopur';
80. 'ZO Gupta Mr A K New Delhi';
81. 'Bijay Kumar';
82. 'bhatt_as...@yahoo.com';
83. 'b sarup';
84. 'bijendr...@relianceada.com';
85. 'ZO Gupta Brijesh Alwar';
86. 'ZO Chawla Er B S N Delhi';
87. 'bhave...@gmail.com';
88. 'ck_b...@yahoo.co.in';
89. 'chiranjilal dhamija';
90. 'satish Acharya';
91. 'ZO Gautama Capt Wilson Surveyors, Mumbai';
92. 'G M Chandak';
93. 'lalit dudeja';
94. 'dilip bhan';
95. 'ck_b...@yahoo.co.in';
96. 'cpm...@mtnl.net.in';
97. 'ypg';
98. 'Shri Alind Kumar';
99. 'orkay elango';
100. 'K R' 'Kishor';
101. 'che...@gmail.com';
102. 'PPandiyan';
103. 'Goutam Basu';
104. 'S. Anoop Kumar';
105. 'ZO Goyal Sunil Mr Sawai Madhopur';
106. 'PS Ramnathan''ravi...@cunninghamlindsey.net'
Valuer, Insurance surveyor,
(fire, Marine, Engg)
"Karmanyevaadhikaaraste maa phaleshu kadaachana"
"your right is to action only, and not to the fruits thereof"
Dear Respected Brothers,
I failed to understand that why our respected colleague have raised objection to a very sincere effort were taken by Mr. Shailesh.
Infact, We should have appreciated him for his whole hearted effort along with the moderator Mr. Sainani for bringing 106 nos. members to vote against categorization and in-house-survey system which is very serious at this very moment.
Please do not de-moralize our freelancer who is working from longtime for the benefit of surveyor's community.
With regards
Sanjay Shaw
98310 85519On Jan 29, 5:04 pm, "Satish Saran" wrote:
> Dear Mr. Shailesh Shah,
> With due apologies I would like to say that I never sent any requests towww.insurance-surveyors.comin connection with categorisation. It is not
> correct for you to include my name without first asking me. I dissociate
> myself from this message.
>
> The Association of Loss Assessors & Surveyors, Bihar - I am a Member of that
> association- has already sent our views directly to IRDA as such sending
> views via another forum is not required.
> best wishes
> Satish Saran
>
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107. All voters, who have voted at IIISLA Election.108. AMAR KANT JHA
It is high time you started behaving yourself. I have had nothing to do with
your website. I have never posted any message to your website. I dont know
what prompts you to take such liberties in incorporating our names without
our consent. It is high time the MODERATORS took some strong exception at
this bahavior which has already resulted in irrepairable damages to the
forums. I strongly demand an apology and assurance that no such foolish act
shall be committed by you in future.
ANIL KHUBCHANDANI
Bhopal (09826075885)
Dear All,
No harsh decisions please.
I am sure it was at the worst, an unwarranted / unacceptable enthusiasm.
In a scenario, where the IIISLA secretary does not even inform us about the exchanges by / between IIISLA and IRDA and we have only unconfirmed reports that they have submitted 'OUR' collective opinion to IRDA, let us not hang anyone.
Having said that, let Mr.Shailesh Shah / Mr.Sanjay be requested to express their apologies for their unintended act of rashness (most of us deal with 279 daily).
Finally, by a copy of this mail, IIISLA is informed / requested to formally notify the minutes of their meetings and the communications sent to IRDA. This will cost them 6 rs including postage for sending every member totalling to Rs.25,000 per month. A single EC meeting is reportedly costing Rs.2,00,000 or more and if they do not accede to a request for transparency anymore, we may be forced to escalate this matter in an adjudicating forum of competent jurisdiction.
What are we complaining about IRDA, Insurance companies, when even OUR OWN IIISLA is behaving arrogantly.
The question now begging to be answered is "Is IIISLA OUR OWN. or some one's personal turf."
In the interests of common courtesy, many of us have kept quite but this has been read as our weakness
brgds
psr
On Jan 30, 2008 7:48 AM, raghavan kodoth <kodo...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
DEAR ALLUNSCRUPULOUS AND UNETHICAL ACT, I MUST SAY, MOST UNBECOMING OF A PROFESSION WHICH NEEDS TO HAVE HIGH MORAL STANDARDS.I SUGGEST EVERYBODY BOYCOTT THE AUTHOR AND DELETE FUTURE MESSAGES AT THE ROOT, WHICH IS THE ONLY REMEDY.K.P.RAGHAVANThis is in poor taste to use other's names without their consent. Show me the mail where I have expressed any views in favour of or against categorisation. I have not sent any opinion.
N.Sai Prasad
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:31:15 +0530
From: che...@gmail.com
To: Insurance...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Adjusters:4403] Re: list of Surveyors opposing CATEGORIZATION
CC: tsn...@irda.gov.in; shaile...@gmail.com; sha...@irda.gov.in; surv...@irda.gov.in; moinuddi...@yahoo.com; gvr...@hotmail.com; gico...@gicofindia.com; hit...@gicofindia.com; insurance-su...@googlegroups.com; gis...@googlegroups.com
I too have not sent any message to Mr. Shailesh shah about categorisation nor have I given consent to use my name.Pl dissociate my name with any message sent by Mr. shailesh Shah
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On 1/29/08, Satish Saran <satis...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Shailesh Shah,
With due apologies I would like to say that I never sent any requests to www.insurance-surveyors.com in connection with categorisation. It is not correct for you to include my name without first asking me. I dissociate myself from this message.
The Association of Loss Assessors & Surveyors, Bihar - I am a Member of that association- has already sent our views directly to IRDA as such sending views via another forum is not required.
best wishes
Satish Saran
On 29/01/2008, shailesh <shaile...@gmail.com> wrote:
To,
IRDA,
www.insurance-surveyors.com have received requests from following 106 surveyors in opposition of CATEGORIZATION. Please take the same on record. Apart from these many more are already sent to you by our colleagues from various forums, to whom this email is marked for adding in the list to create a single record, for circulation to all concerned.
Shailesh Shah
License no. SLA-47537 Exp. 22/06/2009
Surveyors
1. 'Sanjay Shaw';2. 'Sushil Maroo & Co.';3. 'sanjay gupta';4. 'MRINAL';5. 'nitulkotoki';6. 'akb_dmr';7. 'siddhantasankar';8. 'satishsaran';
10. 'sankar_roy_surveyor';11. 'skshaw2007';12. 'Tapan Barua';13. 'VIPUL I. SHAH SURVEYOR';
22. 'Vipul Gosalia';
26. 'Apex Surveyors';27. 'Mani Thiyagarajan';28. 'Sushil Maroo & Co.';29. 'Manoj Bhargava';30. 'Janardhan Mallaya';31. 'subhash garg';
33. 'MNR ASSOCIATES';34. 'Sushil Maroo & Co.';35. 'SUNDARESAN SWAMINATHAN';36. 'Muninder Prasad';
41. 'UTS Deepak Kapoor'42. 'P.C SHUKLA';43. 'sumant sud';44. 'A.S.Antony Raj';45. 'chandra dasaraju';
48. 'Shri Amol Indra Kumar Bora';49. 'Amol borkhade';50. 'Hemal Patel';51. 'ZO Paharia I M Mr';
54. 'Kaplesh Bayala';55. 'dinanath khedkar';56. 'raghavan kodoth';57. 'K D Kohli';58. 'Kishor Saboo';
60. 'Z Kavadia C K';61. 'lalit dudeja';62. 'Mani Thiyagarajan';63. 'subhash garg';64. 'sai prasad';65. 'NITUL KOTOKI';66. 'NEELAKANTAN R';67. 'prabhat srivastava';68. 'ZO Desai Mr Gautam Vapi';69. 'ZO Gahoi Mr Pankaj Indore';70. 'gajjala reddy';71. 'ZO Dave G P & Sons Pankaj Bhai';72. 'Gautam Basu';73. 'HITESH SKAR';74. 'Hemant';75. 'Husain';76. 'Insurance Samachar';77. 'ARUN kumar';78. 'ZO Gupta Mr Anand Vapi';79. 'ZO Goyal Sunil Mr Sawai Madhopur';80. 'ZO Gupta Mr A K New Delhi';81. 'Bijay Kumar';
85. 'ZO Gupta Brijesh Alwar';86. 'ZO Chawla Er B S N Delhi';
89. 'chiranjilal dhamija';90. 'satish Acharya';91. 'ZO Gautama Capt Wilson Surveyors, Mumbai';92. 'G M Chandak';93. 'lalit dudeja';94. 'dilip bhan';
97. 'ypg';98. 'Shri Alind Kumar';99. 'orkay elango';100. 'K R' 'Kishor';
102. 'PPandiyan';103. 'Goutam Basu';104. 'S. Anoop Kumar';105. 'ZO Goyal Sunil Mr Sawai Madhopur';
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From: Sanjay Shaw
A lot is expressed by many members (out of sheer agony of misuse of
their name), I normally try to intervene less (or least as Moderator)
so that flow of information remains smooth / unobstructed assuming
that all the members would behave responsibly on the Group (mails
recognising that this Medium is different from passing casual remarks
verbally). It appears that some (a few only) are not recognsing this
fact forcing to moderate their Mails henceforth.
M S Sainani
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9414168144
Group Moderator
adjuste...@gmail.com
adju...@bppl.net.in
"... & I, in any case was NOT A party to the list of 108
Surveyors NOR had consented on this issue."
M S Sainani
On Jan 30, 2008 11:39 PM, M S Sainani, Insurance Surveyor & Loss
Dear Sanjay
Reference: I can show you mail link where Mr Sainani have given concent / feedback on different mail
This refers to your mail below & the link, contents of which are appearing above & below, I observe that your response to Mr Anoop’s mail is just irrelevant & out of context. May I request you to please refrain from sending such mails??
I wish to reiterate that NO WAY I WAS A PARTY TO LIST OF 108 SURVEYOR’S as indicated by Shailesh, I wasn’t connected even remotely with over enthusiasm of Shailesh, nor I endorse the same.
Mail to Shailesh on 18th July ’07 is reproduced below, can you tell me what is the link (I am not talking of a web link) between this mail & query of Mr Anoop Kumar ??.
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On 7/17/06, happyshailesh <shaileshbs...@gmail.com> wrote:
happyshailesh View profile
More options Jul 17 2006, 9:09 pm
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find that more or less true independent status of surveyors is lost
in india.
Can those surveyors who are already a part of networking
firms, share their views and experiences on the fied and off the field.
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12:03 pm
Dear Shailesh
There are pros & cons of everything which is happening around us all the time; we have to keep in mind that life is Dynamic & not a static concept.
Joining hands is synergy & working stand alone has got its merits too. To me synergy is always better, the reason is we may be individual centers of excellence but the knowledge & expertise gathered gets buried with our end of life & thus never gets institutionalized.
This is one reason because of which Europeans & Americans, several developed countries are different from us, our elders (*Sone ki Chiriya wale*) left this world without sharing enormous wealth of knowledge without sharing with others or institutionalizing the wealth of knowledge.
Many may not agree with my viewpoint & many may, I healthy discussion on issue is welcome.
Regds
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M S Sainani - 9414168144
Surveyor & Loss Assessor
United Technical Services
69, Anand Nagar, University Road
Udaipur - 313 001
Ph: 0294 - 2429543, 2429725, 6531224