Fwd: D/L to drive Hydra Crane

[Lovkesh Goel]

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From: Lovkesh Goel <lovke...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 5:00 PM
Subject: D/L to drive Hydra Crane
To: iiislagroup <iiisl...@googlegroups.com>, Insurance Surveyors India <insurance-su...@googlegroups.com>, insurance_surveyors <insurance...@googlegroups.com>


Dear Members,

Opinions are invited towards entitlement of driver to drive a 'Hydra Crane' with GVW of 15300 kgs holding D/L as shown.

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Thanks & Regards

Lovkesh Goel
+919810662026

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Thanks & Regards

Lovkesh Goel
+919810662026

[S. Anoop Kumar]

Dear Mr. Lovkesh Goel,

Just get the following points:


1. Mobile Crane Hydra is an On Road Vehicle and is registered.
2. A valid DL is required to drive and operate the vehicle
3. As the GVW is 15300 kgs., it requires a heavy vehicle license to
drive such vehicles.
4. PSV Bus is a passenger service vehicle, which is a heavy vehicle
5. Holder of PSV bus driving license can also drive heavy goods
vehicle
6. A mobile crane is a non-transport vehicle.
7. A holder of transport vehicle license can also drive non-
transport vehicles
8. The holder of the driving license as shown by you can very well
drive mobile cranes of heavy vehicle category or even light vehicle
category.


Just for your info, Maharashtra is still following old system of
issuing DL. But the new system (if you can still call it new) as
per the MV Act now in vogue since 1994, does not have so many vehicle
classifications as shown in the Maha license.


With best regards,


S. Anoop Kumar.

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[S. Anoop Kumar]

Dear Mr. Dilip Mawale,

 

 

Escorts and JCB have their own training centres to train operators in handling backhoe excavator loaders, more popularly known as JCB's in common man's usage.   This they are doing to train and create more operators to operate their machines failing there would be huge shortage of operators and they will not be able to sell their machines in the market.  

 

 

As per the provisions of MV Act, 1939 (as amended during 1988 & 1994 & 2001) there are now just 5 classes of vehicles under which a driving license can be granted. 

 

 

They are:

 

 

a) motor cycle without gear;  (b) motor cycle with gear; (c) invalid carriage; (d) light motor vehicle; (e) transport vehicle

 

 

There is no other class of vehicle under which a DL can be issued by the transport authorities as per the excising provisions of MV Act.   Every 'on road vehicle' should fit into one of the above categories.    The amended act 54 of 1994 has eliminated the following class of vehicles from the provisions of MV Act - medium goods vehicle, medium passenger motor vehicle,  heavy goods vehicle, heavy passenger motor vehicle, road-roller & motor vehicle of a specified description.

 

 

Now let us try to understand which all vehicles a holder of LMV license can drive:  

 

 

A holder of LMV license can drive all on road vehicles which have gross laden weight (GVW) or regd. laden weight (RLW) not exceeding 7500 kgs., and the vehicles which do not fall under the categories motor cycle without gear or motor cycle with gear or invalid carriage.    Such vehicles constitute and include, LMV motor cars, LMV goods and passenger vehicles, 3 wheeler auto rickshaws, road rollers, mobile cranes, backhoe loaders & excavators, tractor trailers, all const. equipment vehicles (tyre mounted), etc.   May be sounding complicated and confusing.  Yes - but that is the law.  

 

 

To drive vehicles having transport vehicle regn. (commercial vehicles), the driver should have transport endorsement (having limited validity of 3 years) and to drive passenger carrying vehicles, the driver should have a PSV badge.    

 

 

What constitutes a "transport vehicle" as per the DL issued by Union of India?

 

 

Here "Transport Vehicle" actually means heavy motor vehicle (not be mistaken or confused for transport vehicle as defined for commercial vehicle regn.).  A holder of "Transport Vehicle" license normally mentioned in the driving license as "Transport Vehicle" or "TVEH" or TR. VEH  or TRV by different state govts. can drive all vehicles having gross laden weight (GVW) or regd. laden weight (RLW) exceeding 7500 kgs.  Such vehicles constitute and include all on road vehicles & regd. vehicles, viz., MMV, MGV, MTV, MPV, HGV, HMV, HTV, HPV, road rollers, mobile cranes, backhoe loaders & excavators, tractor trailers, borewell rigs, crop harvesters (tyre mounted), tippers, all const. equipment vehicles (tyre mounted).     May be sounding even more complicated and confusing.  Yes again - but that is the law as prevailing.

 

 

To drive heavy passenger carrying vehicles, the driver should have a PSV badge.    

 

 

This changes have come into effect after passing of amendment bill 54 of 1994 as per the recommendations of Review Committee which suggested the changes in the name of implication of procedure for grant of driving licenses and such recommendations were also accepted by the state governments, various interested parties such as state govt. transport operators & other private transport operators, members from general public, etc. and later accepted by the Transport Development Council, an advisory body, which was later placed before the parliament houses as an amendment bill and passed to make it law.   Surprised....?   But this is how the laws are made.   

 

 

As can be seen from the copy of Maharashtra Driving License placed on the group message boards by Mr. Lovkesh Goel, you find vehicles placed under 24 different  class of vehicles.   But existing MV Act just provides for 5 classifications only.   Any state government can make its own rules, called as state motor vehicle rules.   But such rules should be necessarily within the frame work of the MV Act as promulgated by Union of India.   

 

 

Such actions of different state governments prescribing different DL formats only lead to, or are even meant to, harass the general public.  Like trying to extort money by the authorities in power or penalize a driver having LMV license found driving a tractor or a JCB excavator or mobile crane with less than 7500 kgs. GVW.      This also leads to insurance companies harassing the clients and/or repudiating the claims citing the driver of the insured vehicle at the time of accident does not hold a valid driving license to drive such vehicles.   

 

 

After reading all the above are U more confused than before and you think law makers are a bunch of ......... (sic) ....?   You may not be very wrong in your thinking.    

 

 

Now just relax and read this and enjoy:

 

 

Charles Dickens has stated "The Law is an Ass - An Idiot" in his book "Oliver Twist" printed and released during 1838.  The learned people, mostly British aristocrats, were surprised, hurt and criticized him.   But "Law is an Ass" is actually from a play (drama) 'Revenge for Honour' published by George Chapman during 1653.   George Chapman is not the author of play 'Revenge of Honour', but merely a publisher.   This goes on to prove we had idiots making the laws for us even as early as 1653.   Remember most Indian laws are as taken from British laws and British laws are still a guiding factor in India.     

    

 

Have a nice weekend with the family.   If you have enjoyed reading the above, just send me a personal mail at    s.anoopkumar(at)gmail(dot)com

 

 

With best regards,

 

S. Anoop Kumar.

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: mawale dilip

To: insurance-su...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 10:15 AM

Subject: Re: D/L to drive Hydra Crane

Dear sir, hydra crane is a articulated off road vehicle, work done by this vehicle is off the road, for dl concern, NOW RTO given special catagories for each and every vehicle in maharashtra, such vehicles also covered in catogory in which, if driver have perticular certificate of driving such hydra crane, as rto never test but manufacturer issues certificate of driving licence and such driver make endorsement for such type of vehicles. In pune Escort and JCB have such operater training conducted and issue operater certificate, then RTO verify and make such endorce. as per my personel opinion. THANKS AND REGARDS DILIP P. MAWALE SURVEYOR & LOSS ASSESSOR APROVED VALUER (+91-9822354768) PUNE MAHARASHTRA

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