Insteon scene - remove

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David Slight

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May 20, 2022, 4:05:47 PM5/20/22
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I have this all installed and can read my database from my hub  - great job.
But now, I had several SCENES setup, for example to turn off all the lights at 11pm.
What records in the database do I need to manipulate to remove a scene?
Is this the GROUP numbers that show up?
Thanks for any help from anyone who has made such changes.
David

nhoe...@sinet.ca

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May 24, 2022, 12:50:58 PM5/24/22
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Scenes are associated with group numbers.  Since I am moving the Insteon devices to OpenHAB, I decided to manually unlink/relink all the Insteon devices and start fresh, using Insteon Terminal to remove any orphan links (https://groups.google.com/g/insteon-terminal/c/iGHrubKqKdE).  I found two switches that were locked (https://groups.google.com/g/insteon-terminal/c/eKlCgZih2Qc) and had to be factory reset.

The Insteon manual suggested that any schedules in the hub would disappear when devices were removed via the Insteon app.  I do not know if removing the links via Insteon Terminal has the same effect, but my lights are now only controlled by OpenHAB.

David Slight

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May 25, 2022, 7:10:15 PM5/25/22
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Thanks, I am now following your advice and manually resetting any switches etc. that respond to the various scheduled scenes - switch everything on then wait to see what gets turned off!  I bet my link db is a mess but I really need to get rid of these scenes first!

David Slight

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May 25, 2022, 7:17:51 PM5/25/22
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Follow-up question - I see the links with Group numbers in the links but where is the "meta-data" about a GROUP/ Scene - is the data that is the schedule to turn that GROUP off at 10pm?

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:50:58 AM UTC-7 nhoe...@sinet.ca wrote:

nhoe...@sinet.ca

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May 25, 2022, 7:41:21 PM5/25/22
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If you have established links between devices (such motion detector sends update to a group, switch listens to that group), then these links can be managed through Insteon Terminal by removing the links referencing the group on  the listening devices.  Timed activities are handled by logic within the hub that can only be updated via the Insteon app.  However, the hub communicates with devices through RESP/CTRL links that send/listen on the scene groups  - removing these links means that even if the timed activities run, nothing will happen.  
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