Re: X Force Keygen AutoCAD Design Suite 2016 32 Bit Free Download
Gaspard Xenos
I can select the installation path and choose D:\ just fine... however, as soon as I hit install, I get an "out of disk space" error message which highlights the C:\ partition. (which is one of the reasons I want to install it on D:\).
Ok, I was able to force the installation by changing the instal locations of the individual components (on the install screen). As I remember it, the libraries were still attempting to install in the C: drive.
About 75% through, I received another "Out of Space Error" but the install continued. At the completion of the install, I received a message saying that not everything installed properly and a log file popped up.
No matter what, you're still going to have files installed on C:\ that exist in your user profile, programdata, start menu, icons, MSI registrations, registry, etc. Sounds like you need to clean your hard drive and make some space. Consider moving your Windows swap file to D:\. Not only does that often speed up memory paging, but it can save you multiple gigs. Also, if you're running Windows Vista or 7, then disable the hibernation file. That'll save you more and more gigs. Clear your %TEMP% folder (that's where your log is, btw) and save even more space. I bet with these steps you can clear 6-8GB easily.
It's not really possible to install any software completely on D:\ unless it is all self-contained. Every typical Windows certified application installs additional files to the locations that I mentioned above. You should really consider cloning your C:\ to a larger hard drive, as you should never have less than 20% free on C:\ for performance reasons.
If that is not an option, consider moving your profile over to D:\ as well as your %TEMP% locations, your Microsoft Office Cache folder, and potentially any other personal file that does not have to exist there.
C: drive has space, just not enough to satisfy installation, and in any case would totally fill all available space if I removed the very few items that could be moved. Basically C: is off limits. Now what?
I'm selecting D:\ as in the install drive and having the same space issue. I understand that all programs put some items on the same drive as the operating system. However the install of design suite seems to be trying to put an excessive amount of files on the C:\. In my case it is trying to put 53GB on the C: drive and only 14GB on the drive.
"Please understand that some parts of the installation files are necessary to be installed on the root system drive. Shortcuts, registry settings, and profile customization are all examples of this. However, you may be able to make some system changes that will allow you to install your Autodesk product and avoid this error. Some of these including moving the location of your temp directories and other space saving measures.
None of these methods to free up space are enough, and we shouldn't have to move anything. I understand that some files will still need to be located on C:, but the bulk of the data should be stored on (Adobe does this )
I think Autodesk should do something similar to really solve this issue. ( I use AutoCAD, Revit and Maya)
The program will not change what it needs, we really need to work with this fact. Back when SSD drives came out users were getting 50 or 60 gig drives- which is certainly not enough space for modern applications. Gigs are taken by the OS, not including temp and other programs. More recent drives 250Gig or so, have plenty of space.
No, the installer is trying to install a very large amount in an unspecified location. There is no reason the entirety of the application cannot be installed in the user specified location other than bad design. It's true some application configuration data belongs in the user profile, but the amount that you are trying to put there is insane.
Just thought that I would chime in. This is absolutely not standard in any way. Autodesk products are literally the only programs that I have come across that are doing this. When people are saying that you need some space on the C drive, they are correct, but there is absolutely no reason that it should be this size. For example, I have Matlab installed on my D drive and the amount of space that it requires on my C drive is less than 50mb.
Saying that not having 20+ gigs free on one drive isn't up to standards seems laughably out of touch. It's still completely normal to buy computers that have a relatively small SSD and one or more larger 7200rpm disk drives. Plus, in an educational or work environment individual users often have separate space on different drives, etc.
I was going to use/recommend some Autodesk programs for a class that I'm teaching, but this kind of thing definitely is stopping me right now. Maybe for somebody working at a company practically unlimited resources, this sort of thing doesn't matter. For the (potentially) future users, this sort of thing is the kind of thing that makes you choose a different program and abandon Autodesk products. Here's hoping that they fix it instead of just assuming that everyone has the same resources that their design team did. It's lazy programming on someone's part and it's absolutely not how anyone else is doing, so please stop responding with the same responses telling people to make more space or get a new hard drive. It's not helpful and just adds to the frustration of people trying to use the product. At least admit that it's a flaw and that it should be fixed, instead of pretending like it's the user's fault.
And no, I do not accept that Autodesk "has" to install 15+ GB of user and registry files onto my C drive. Almost no other software I've ever used does this. More and more people are using SSDs for their main hard drive as was mentioned.
When you say the user has the choice where to install, but 80% + is forced on C drive? That's not a choice. I would like to use Revit, but I'm not going to gut my C drive to satisfy the whims of Autodesk's obnoxious software design choices.
Honestly, if you have a 100Gig SSD or less as your C: drive- this is really small. It just is. Really small drives will fill quickly and tend to give you space errors. Either because of the temp folders or extract directory.
Apple just announced all their computers will be ARM based by the end of 2021. This will effectively kill BootCamp as a viable option for running Revit, and Virtual Machine programs like VMWare and Parallels will have to emulate hardware causing significant performance hits. So, Autodesk, you're about to lose a significant install base. Will this finally get you to make Revit a native Mac app after 14 flipping years?
ARM processors aren't very powerful and it is still doubtful they can actually create processors replacing the Intel server processors they use. Look at Anandtech for a recent article. They have a Rosetta 2 engine that "translates" the x86 software to ARM. But that may not be suitable for a complex software. At this point it isn't even clear if the MS software will get an ARM version.
I doubt there is a large number of Mac users using Revit. And I rather have Adesk work on bugs and implementing our wish list items, than creating a version optimized for a weak (compared to actual desktop processors) mobile processor. And then what, in 5 years Apple goes back to Intel, or AMD, then they throw away their effort? And Apple takes a 30% cut and forces users to only buy software from their app store. I doubt Adesk likes that part.
Your response starts off reasonable, but it takes a nose dive pretty fast. It's amazing how upset people get when someone is interested in something they aren't. Mac users don't like windows just like you don't like Mac. No one wants to buy a second computer for one application. Asking for a port is not a desire to "rile" anyone up. I have no idea why you would see it that way. Am I suggesting Windows users are lacking in anything? Have I offended them in some way? And what difference does it make how long I've been in a customer support group? I had a question for the first time and I signed up and asked it. Again, why does that bother you? What about what I'm asking is trolling? SMH.
AFAIK this will be a 2 year transition. Apple even will still introduce new x86 computers over the next 2 years. So it is all speculation on how powerful that will be, and if the high-end Macs will get ARM before the 2 year transition. So it isn't clear how many Macs will actually be in the wild with ARM.
Apple also can change their mind within the 2 years, depending on what trouble they run into or if Intel/AMD come up with a really great x86 alternative. Main reason apple is doing that they are not happy with Intel progress over the last years. This may be a large exercise to put Intel on notice and to keep options open.
It also will depend on if the add-ins will need to be converted to ARM. That may be the larger hurdle since those smaller companies are important for Revit, but may not have the resources to maintain twice the software.
It is a lot of work to make a software take advantage of all the CPU features. It has to work optimally on all modern AMD and Intel CPUs with a multitude of windows versions. Maybe it is reasonable to make an ARM version, but not an optimized one. Then it may just be easier to use the emulator.
Again, I rather have Adesk focus on one version with fewer bugs and better features than to get tangled up in multiple versions that kind of work half-good. Look at the wishlist on this forum and how little of the great ideas has been implemented yet.
For what it's worth, I used to work for a big multi-national who was a big user of Revit. They chose their OS and hardware based on the software they needed to use (Revit, AutoCAD, and a few others), not the other way around, so they had large numbers of Windows boxes. Some of the 'creative types' had Mac laptops but they had little to nothing to do with the engineering/design side.
There are users in the creative industry (read architects) that require Adobe products also, which just imho works better/nicer on a mac system. If Revit is not compatible anymore for them it is likely Autodesk will loose those mac users who will switch to alternatives, Archicad for example, which runs on both operating systems fine (...these two should really work on better interoperability btw). Percentage wise it's probably not that many users affected, but of course I don't have the numbers... Only thing I can think to say on the matter is that it's called Revit AEC collection, not Revit EC, but in the end it's up to Autodesk for which users this is and/or remains true...
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