Nvidia Geforce 6200 Agp

[Liora Putcha]

Ihave been recently trying to find a solution for this on the web but did not find something useful or accurate for Ubuntu 11.10. I also consulted the NVIDIA help, but things there did not work for me.

I installed the additional drivers from system settings but they are not fully compatible with my GeForce 6200. First I tried finding how to stop the X server. I succeeded, but another problem was the nouveau kernel.

I'm using nvidia-current driver with Ubuntu 12.10 for the GeForce 6200 card. I think the nvidia-current driver (in the main repository) is available for Ubuntu 11.10 but you probably should update to either 12.04 or 12.10 anyway.

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I kinda like these geforce 6200's as they are affordable, compatible, not too slow and don't require active cooling. They are actually the first reasonable successors of the Geforce MX440 (DirectX7), as the FX5200 is too crappy.

I only have one such card, an AGP card from Asus with 256MB. This particular one ruins 'suspend to ram' mode ? , It has a connector that does not fit an AGP 2x slot. Others are seen with a universal AGP connector.

I would like to know if someone had any succes using a certain 6200 model with a 440BX mainboard with windows 98.

There are also PCI versions, which might be interesting because they are independent from an under-spec, or even overclocked, AGP bus. What kind of drawbacks will one experience when using PCI instead of AGP?

6200 is usually found with 64-bit DDR2 250MHz, AFAIK this just equals my MX440 with 128-bit DDR, giving 8 GB/s. I read there are some early variants with 128-bit memory bus support (not the 6200A). Anyone know a model with actual 128-bit memory?.

The 6200s with a AGP connector keyed to work in a AGP 2x slot may not actually be capable of it. I've read that this possibly is an error on the part of the manufacturer and that the chip doesn't support 3.3v signaling.

Thanks swaaye, I am still in doubt though. On one hand the Geforce 6 series are usually stated as a 1,5 Volt signalling chips. But I posted this question because I found messages describing 6200's that run on a 440BX mainboard or similiar. To some extend at least. Here are some:

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I set up an old Slot 1 Motherboard by Gigabyte - the GA6-BXC. Connected a Pentium III 733 via S370-adapter. FSB of 133MHz, heck yeah, 440BX Chipset running out of specs.

I put on a GF6200 AGP and fired the system up, installed Windows 2000 and, well, there is some sort of resource conflict.

@gerwin, I was interested to read your O.P. about the 6200, mx440, and the fx5200 nVidia cards. You say that the fx5200 is "too crappy" - given the existance of both the 'later' 6200 and also the 'earlier' mx440 graphics cards, would also having a fx5200 make little or no sense? Or, to rephrase this differently, what are the fx5200 card's unique "plus points"?

i really wonder, what use it should be if the graphics card is way too fast for the system. So if you put in a GF4 Ti or a x1950 Pro what difference would it make? (on DX8) Probably none.

So if f.e. a GF4 Ti is on the 'too fast' limit of everything a 440BX can handle in terms of CPU power any other card that's in the same speed range or faster is just a matter of taste. Ofcourse there is no general rule where the CPU limitation is as this depends on the games you want to play.

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I personally like the lower end-nvidia cards because they have a reasonable heat output and great compatibility allround. The TNT2/Geforce2/MX440's all work very well in DOS, AFAIK just as well as an S3 PCI. (Geforce 5 and some MX440-8X have the Vesa refresh rates locked)

Maybe the FX5200 Ultra is an option, I don't know much about it. The normal FX5200 got bad reviews when it was out: 'nice features, but no speed to use them for anything' or 'My old MX440 is even faster'. But at the time I did not know about 64- versus 128-bit memory. I Actually had an FX5200 for 15 minutes, but it caused instability.

It seems the 6200 is still produced, most are now based on the NV44a chip. AFAIK only the early models had the NV43 which could unlock extra pipelines, but wikipedia says it can also be done with the later chips? Seems unlikely.

You don't want a FX5200. Ever. It's as bad as everyone says (but I think it's even worse considering it's slower than gf2mx). It'll be the worst video card you'll ever purchase. Savage4 is more fun to play with than it.

Regarding the FX5200, I already have one ? - its performance is not impressive. I think I will shelve my plan of using it in any retro rig, and instead investigate both the MX 440 and also the 6xxx series - such as the fanless 6200 card.

The reason I got the FX5200, is that the fanless design appealed to me. Regarding powerful graphics cards and windows 98, I think the last cards with official drivers are ATI's 9800 Pro, and nVidia's 6xxx series cards. Anything released after those two cards probably only has official support for NT & XP.

I bet you tried the 64-bit version! ? I did also. Then I said the same thing you just wrote. But afterwards, I got myself a 128-bit one and it had performance in range of Radeon 8500 (pretty useful at that time). Of course, a passive cooled Radeon 9600, or even 9550 is a much better choice.

Personally I doubt the entire Geforce 5 series. At the time I was in the market for a new card, but after reading (and trying out two ATI cards) I just decided to wait it out until the next lineup. Not that I can currently say exactly why...

I have been a ardent Geforce follower since the days of Geforce2. I have skipped the FX series altogether, when I was concentrating on my academic matters at that time. I have that Geforce 6200, which is quite troublesome to make it work in older motherboards. It just won't boot.

I do love my Geforce4 Ti series, and have been using them in my classic system. I have a Ti4200 AGP 8X and a Ti 4800SE. Though I don't use them very regularly, due to the presence of my Virge PCI and Voodoo2 combo config.

Whereas my mid-range system has the 6800 Ultra AGP, with a Voodoo3 pci. This system is W98/W2k based, and believe it or not, I actually built this system to play System Shock 2. Of course, other games of that era play well too.

Anyway, put it into an Abit BH6 slot1 mobo, and kinda expecting smoke and flames, but... at least boots just fine, so...

No idea how it'd do in windows - maybe I'll test some more at a later time.

(my daily win98 machine uses a PCI FX5200 !... 64bit most likely)

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