Google 撤离中国？！

[Gary Young]

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html

[He Puras]

看不到内容，能不能把内容转载过来？谢谢

2010/1/13 Gary Young <flashf...@gmail.com>

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html

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[Gary Young]

A new approach to China

1/12/2010 03:00:00 PM

Like many other well-known organizations, we face cyber attacks of varying degrees on a regular basis. In mid-December, we detected a highly sophisticated and targeted attack on our corporate infrastructure originating from China that resulted in the theft of intellectual property from Google. However, it soon became clear that what at first appeared to be solely a security incident--albeit a significant one--was something quite different.

First, this attack was not just on Google. As part of our investigation we have discovered that at least twenty other large companies from a wide range of businesses--including the Internet, finance, technology, media and chemical sectors--have been similarly targeted. We are currently in the process of notifying those companies, and we are also working with the relevant U.S. authorities.

Second, we have evidence to suggest that a primary goal of the attackers was accessing the Gmail accounts of Chinese human rights activists. Based on our investigation to date we believe their attack did not achieve that objective. Only two Gmail accounts appear to have been accessed, and that activity was limited to account information (such as the date the account was created) and subject line, rather than the content of emails themselves.

Third, as part of this investigation but independent of the attack on Google, we have discovered that the accounts of dozens of U.S.-, China- and Europe-based Gmail users who are advocates of human rights in China appear to have been routinely accessed by third parties. These accounts have not been accessed through any security breach at Google, but most likely via phishing scams or malware placed on the users' computers.

We have already used information gained from this attack to make infrastructure and architectural improvements that enhance security for Google and for our users. In terms of individual users, we would advise people to deploy reputable anti-virus and anti-spyware programs on their computers, to install patches for their operating systems and to update their web browsers. Always be cautious when clicking on links appearing in instant messages and emails, or when asked to share personal information like passwords online. You can read more here about our cyber-security recommendations. People wanting to learn more about these kinds of attacks can read this U.S. government report (PDF), Nart Villeneuve's blog and this presentation on the GhostNet spying incident.

We have taken the unusual step of sharing information about these attacks with a broad audience not just because of the security and human rights implications of what we have unearthed, but also because this information goes to the heart of a much bigger global debate about freedom of speech. In the last two decades, China's economic reform programs and its citizens' entrepreneurial flair have lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese people out of poverty. Indeed, this great nation is at the heart of much economic progress and development in the world today.

We launched Google.cn in January 2006 in the belief that the benefits of increased access to information for people in China and a more open Internet outweighed our discomfort in agreeing to censor some results. At the time we made clear that "we will carefully monitor conditions in China, including new laws and other restrictions on our services. If we determine that we are unable to achieve the objectives outlined we will not hesitate to reconsider our approach to China."

These attacks and the surveillance they have uncovered--combined with the attempts over the past year to further limit free speech on the web--have led us to conclude that we should review the feasibility of our business operations in China. We have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our results on Google.cn, and so over the next few weeks we will be discussing with the Chinese government the basis on which we could operate an unfiltered search engine within the law, if at all. We recognize that this may well mean having to shut down Google.cn, and potentially our offices in China.

The decision to review our business operations in China has been incredibly hard, and we know that it will have potentially far-reaching consequences. We want to make clear that this move was driven by our executives in the United States, without the knowledge or involvement of our employees in China who have worked incredibly hard to make Google.cn the success it is today. We are committed to working responsibly to resolve the very difficult issues raised.

Posted by David Drummond, SVP, Corporate Development and Chief Legal Officer

2010/1/12 He Puras <pura...@gmail.com>

[zhu vitrum]

将英语译成中文

一种新方法来中国 
2010年1月12号下午3点00分00秒 
象许多其他著名组织，我们面临着不同程度的网络攻击 
定期。 12月中旬，我们发现非常先进的， 
针对性攻击我们的企业从原产于中国的基础设施 
结果是从谷歌侵犯了知识产权。然而，很快就 
清楚的是在第一次出现是单纯的安全事件 - 虽然 
重要的一项 - 是完全是另外一回事。 

首先，这次袭击不只是谷歌。由于我们的调查，我们的一部分 
发现至少有20其他从范围广泛的大公司 
企业 - 包括互联网，金融，技术，媒体和化学 
部门 - 也遭受了同样的目标。目前，我们正在处理的通知 
这些公司，我们也与美国有关当局的工作。 

第二，我们有证据表明，一个攻击者的主要目标 
访问的中国人权活动的Gmail帐户。基于我们 
到目前为止的调查，我们相信他们的进攻并没有实现这一目标。仅仅 
两个Gmail帐户似乎已被访问，而这一活动被限制在 
帐户信息（如日期的帐户已创建）和主题行， 
而不是自己的电子邮件内容。 

第三，这项调查的，但对谷歌，攻击我们的独立的一部分 
已经发现，美几十个帐户，中国和欧洲推出了Gmail 
用户谁是在中国人权倡导者似乎已经例行 
访问第三方。这些帐户没有通过任何访问 
安全漏洞在谷歌，但大多数通过网络钓鱼诈骗或恶意软件放在可能 
在用户的计算机。 

我们已经使用的信息，从这次袭击，使获得基础设施和 
建筑改进提高安全性和谷歌为我们的用户。在 
个人用户而言，我们奉劝人们有信誉的部署反病毒 
和反间谍软件程序在计算机上，安装补丁为他们 
作业系统，并更新其网络浏览器。始终要谨慎 
点击在即时消息和电子邮件，或要求分享出现链接 
个人信息如密码线上。你可以在这里阅读更多关于我们的网络， 
安全建议。人们想要了解这些类型的攻击多 
可以阅读此，美国政府报告（PDF），纳尔特维伦纽夫的博客，这 
关于GhostNet介绍间谍事件。 

我们已经采取了与交流有关这些事件的资料不寻常的举动 
广大观众不仅因为安全和人权的影响 
我们已经发现，而且还因为这些信息去的心 
更大的全球性辩论言论自由。在过去二十年中，中国的 
经济改革计划和公民的企业精神已解除 
对亿万人民摆脱了贫困。事实上，这个伟大的国家是 
在许多经济进步和世界发展的核心。 

我们于2006年1月相信Google.cn的增加的好处 
获得在中国人民和一个更加开放的互联网信息多于我们 
不舒服同意审查了一些成果。当时，我们明确指出，“我们 
将密切注视中国的条件，包括新的法律和其他 
限制我们的服务。如果我们确定，我们无法实现 
目标概述我们会毫不犹豫地重新考虑我们的做法中国。“ 

这些袭击，他们已经发现监视 - 与合并的尝试 
在过去的一年，以进一步限制在网络上的言论自由 - 已经使我们得出结论 
我们应该检讨我们在中国业务的可行性。我们已 
我们决定不再愿意继续在Google.cn封杀我们的业绩， 
因此，在未来，我们将与中方政府商讨几个星期 
的基础上，我们可以在法律范围内经营，未经过滤的搜索引擎如 
在所有。我们认识到，这很可能意味着必须关闭Google.cn，并 
我们可能在中国的办事处。 

审查的决定，在中国的业务一直非常努力， 
我们知道，这有可能影响深远的后果。我们希望 
明确指出，这一举措是在美国主导的管理人员， 
不知情或在中国的员工参与，谁工作 
令人难以置信的努力使Google.cn成就的今天。我们承诺 
工作负责的解决提出的问题非常困难。 

发布者大卫德鲁蒙德，高级副总裁，企业发展和首席法律官

2010/1/13 Gary Young <flashf...@gmail.com>

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[x5]

恩，我也看到这篇新闻了，有些震惊～～

昨天在网上看到评选的“2009中国十大悲情人物”，感觉google可以算作第十一个了～～

[Gary Young]

如果域名劫持，那就可以轻易盗取密码，而能够轻而易举做到域名劫持的，只有×××了，难怪google如此气急败坏。

 

 

2010/1/12 x5 <liu...@cn.infoq.com>

[Ryan Wong]

只能说是悲哀，谁都无法撼动这种权威。

在 2010 年 1 13 日，10:52 上午，"zhu vitrum" <vitrum.cn@gmail.com>编写：

2010/1/13 Gary Young <flashf...@gmail.com> > > A new approach to China > 1/12/2010 03:00:00 PM ...

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[He Puras]

2010年啦。

应该是2010年第一悲情人物

2010/1/13 x5 <liu...@cn.infoq.com>

[Iceskysl]

完全悲剧了～

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2010/1/13 Gary Young <flashf...@gmail.com>:

[Gary Young]

Fring 最近也不能在大陆 log in 了，最新的Fring 4支持 Skype的 video call。

2010/1/12 Iceskysl <ices...@gmail.com>

[Ping Chen]

fring  我这里正常。

2010/1/13 Gary Young <flashf...@gmail.com>

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[Li Yang]

这是很可怕的。google如果真的离开了中国，将是巨大的杯具

2010/1/13 Ping Chen <cpe...@gmail.com>

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[Ryan Wong]

翻呗，当年维基也这样。要么沉默，要么起义，要么出逃

在 2010 年 1 13 日，11:24 上午，"Li Yang" <steph...@gmail.com>编写：

这是很可怕的。google如果真的离开了中国，将是巨大的杯具

2010/1/13 Ping Chen <cpe...@gmail.com>

> > fring  我这里正常。 > > 2010/1/13 Gary Young <flashf...@gmail.com> >> >> Fring 最近也不能在大陆 log in 了，最新...

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[samlinzhang]

中国在走向倒退了。。。。
态度决定一切

2010/1/13 Ping Chen <cpe...@gmail.com>

[nile black]

仅以此贴纪念近似伟大的Google。

Nile Black
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2010/1/13 samlinzhang <samli...@gmail.com>

[shawn wang]

有什么悲剧的？支持google撤离中国！屈辱地留下，不如体面地离开！

2010/1/13 Iceskysl <ices...@gmail.com>

[Fairy Wong]

google撤离中国，只会为这个时代的软制裁开一条新思路。

2010/1/13 shawn wang <shawnw...@gmail.com>

[Rosen Jiang]

只是这一去，提供的服务就不好弄了，例如地图。
服务器地理距离远先不说，万一以后被屏蔽，那就惨了。

2010/1/13 shawn wang <shawnw...@gmail.com>

[Ryan Wong]

放心吧，智能手机全面支持vpn了。互联网可以去中心化，支持开放式dns服务，支持大力开展vpn业务

在 2010 年 1 13 日，12:29 下午，"Rosen Jiang" <rosen...@gmail.com>编写：

只是这一去，提供的服务就不好弄了，例如地图。
服务器地理距离远先不说，万一以后被屏蔽，那就惨了。

2010/1/13 shawn wang <shawnw...@gmail.com>

有什么悲剧的？支持google撤离中国！屈辱地留下，不如体面地离开！

> > 2010/1/13 Iceskysl <ices...@gmail.com> > >> 完全悲剧了～ >> >> ---------------------- >> All the bes...

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[Juan Chung]

2010/1/13 shawn wang <shawnw...@gmail.com>:
> 有什么悲剧的？支持google撤离中国！屈辱地留下，不如体面地离开！

这不是Google的杯具，而是中国的杯具，是中国人的杯具！

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[lix yan]

难道说我要开始习惯使用  baidu 了么?!

2010/1/13 Gary Young <flashf...@gmail.com>

[Rosen Jiang]

发个问题，现在www.infoq.com访问比较慢，从北京西城电信通。
请关注。

2010/1/13 lix yan <yanxi...@gmail.com>

[Gary Young]

《阿凡达》被禁 http://club.kdnet.net/newbbs/dispbbs.asp?boardid=1&id=3221203

2010/1/13 Rosen Jiang <rosen...@gmail.com>

[andy]

今天据报道，google恢复在中国的业务

 

 

2010-01-20

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