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Bradley Yearwood

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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After seeing the discussion about the feasibility of exporting Symbolics
documents as HTML, I took a look at my 8.3 stuff, and was quite disappointed
to find that much of NSAGE is provided binary-only. Most every module which
by its name, would be likely to know about the innards of SAB files, has no
source code available, at least in the distribution that I have.

This is quite frustrating. Does anyone know whether these sources are
accessible somewhere, or are they doomed to crumble to dust and blow away?

Brad Yearwood b n y at s o n i c dot n e t
Cotati, CA

Bradley Yearwood

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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As of the latter days of 8.3, Concordia (with source - how complete I don't
yet know, because I haven't tried to exaustively inventory it) was provided
along with the standard Genera distribution - at least that's how I got it.

Unfortunately, I think Concordia reaches over into NSAGE to make use of some
components (e.g. SAB-related modules) for which sources are lacking. I
could be wrong about this - will have to go look under Concordia again to
be sure that I didn't miss anything, but I know they're not under NSAGE.

Luca Pisati

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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I don't know, really.
DocEx is only a browser, the authoring tool is Concordia, and I think
Concordia gives the sources to NSAGE. Also, the DocEx files were shipped in
"binary" form. With Concordia you could "uncompress" them, making them
readable by Concordia and editable.

Concordia was sold as a separate package.

BTW: I still can't find an authoring tool like Concordia around, that
produces a database of documentation ...

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Scott McKay

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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From: Luca Pisati <pis...@nichimen.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:49:39 -0700


Bradley Yearwood wrote:
>
> After seeing the discussion about the feasibility of exporting Symbolics
> documents as HTML, I took a look at my 8.3 stuff, and was quite disappointed
> to find that much of NSAGE is provided binary-only. Most every module which
> by its name, would be likely to know about the innards of SAB files, has no
> source code available, at least in the distribution that I have.
>
> This is quite frustrating. Does anyone know whether these sources are
> accessible somewhere, or are they doomed to crumble to dust and blow away?
>
> Brad Yearwood b n y at s o n i c dot n e t
> Cotati, CA

I don't know, really.
DocEx is only a browser, the authoring tool is Concordia, and I think
Concordia gives the sources to NSAGE. Also, the DocEx files were shipped in
"binary" form. With Concordia you could "uncompress" them, making them
readable by Concordia and editable.

If you look on the ANSI file system on your Genera 8.3 CD, you will
discover a fairly complete set of sources, which got on there by
accident. I don't remember if these sources included Concordia.

Rainer Joswig

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Apr 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/22/98
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At 11:02 Uhr -0400 21.04.1998, Scott McKay wrote:

>If you look on the ANSI file system on your Genera 8.3 CD, you will
>discover a fairly complete set of sources, which got on there by
>accident. I don't remember if these sources included Concordia.

Not Concordia, but NSAGE and DDEX. Should be
sufficient information to write a new generator
for HTML.


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Scott McKay

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Apr 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/22/98
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From: Rainer Joswig <jos...@lavielle.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:03:44 +0200


At 11:02 Uhr -0400 21.04.1998, Scott McKay wrote:

>If you look on the ANSI file system on your Genera 8.3 CD, you will
>discover a fairly complete set of sources, which got on there by
>accident. I don't remember if these sources included Concordia.

Not Concordia, but NSAGE and DDEX. Should be
sufficient information to write a new generator
for HTML.

Yes, I should think so.

I hacked on a Concordia->LaTeX converter once, but it got lost in a
hard drive death.


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