The St. Cleve Chronicle V7 #50
Dave Steiner , The Moderator
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The St. Cleve Chronicle Thursday, 16 May 1996 Volume 7 : Issue 50
Today's Topics:
Two Living In The Past Questions
Tull in the UK - November 1996
CA Concerts
Jethro Tull on tour
TULL & ELP ? ? ? ?
Concert Dates for Hartford?
Re: The St. Cleve Chronicle V7 #40
Detroit, Cleveland Columbus or Toledo concert dates...
Re: The St. Cleve Chronicle V7 #41
Tull's Coming to St Louis?
Jethro Tull's large following
You forgot some Celts...
Acoustic and Classical Tull Albums
Some questions!
One-offs
Next album?
At Last, Forever
Flying So High...
I ain't just whistling Aqualung!
Celtic influences on English
Re:SCCV7 #41 What Makes...
I Don't Know...
it was a tull day yesterday but it's an odd day now
********
Administrivia: I'll continue to post tour information and questions
but at this point it doesn't look like there will be any further
tours for 1996 :( Hopefully we can get a better idea of the schedule
within a couple of weeks. -ds
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Date: 27 Apr 96 14:26:33 EDT
From: Steve Stewart <10266...@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Two Living In The Past Questions
Hey Folks!
I was updating my JT directory the other day, and noticed a few
different things about my CD version of LitP. The first is concerning
the song From (or *For*) Later. I own both the vinyl and the CD
version of this album, and on the vinyl the song is listed as *From*
Later, whereas the CD says *For* later. I was wondering which one was
correct, and whether or not one of these versions was a rarety that
might be worth something. My second question is about the song
Wond'ring Aloud. It made it's first apearance on the '71 release
"Aqualung", lasting only 1 minute and 53 seconds. It showed up again
on the '72 release LitP as "Wond'ring Again", and lasted over 4
minutes. In the credits of my vinyl version LitP, this song was said
to have been recorded in '70 at Morgan Studio, London. This probably
means that it was recorded during the "Benefit" sessions, and
therefore it was done prior to the shorter version on"Aqualung". If
this is in fact the case, then my question to my fellow Tullians is
this: Why was the version that was recorded first given a name that
implies that it is a sequel to "Wond'ring Aloud", even though "Aloud"
is seemingly the sequel to "Again"? Is it probable that the two songs
were recorded at the same time? I would appreciate any ideas that you
folks might have concerning these two questions (assuming, of course,
that there is someone out there that has put up with my rambling).
Thanks,
Tim Stewart
"And as you cross the wilderness, spinning in your emptiness: you feel
you have to pray."
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 96 20:56 BST-1
From: g0...@cix.compulink.co.uk (Kevin Danks)
Subject: Tull in the UK - November 1996
At last! After weeks of hearing reports of various US concerts, I hear
that JT are playing here in Bournemouth on 14 November 1996. Anyone got
any tour information? I imagine that Ian will be back on his feet by then
- - I can't wait!!!
Best to all
<=========================>
< Kevin Danks >
< Bournemouth >
< (a little town >
< on the South Coast) >
< UK >
<g0...@cix.compulink.co.uk>
<=========================>
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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:15:32 -0800 (PST)
From: SCOTT ROBERTS <SROB...@bernard.PITZER.EDU>
Subject: CA Concerts
Organization: Pitzer College
I have heard on the radio that Tull will be playing in Southern
California September 20-21 at the Universal Amp. and The Blockbuster
Pavillion. I hope this is true since I have not been to a tull
concert in a few years.
"And God the director, smelled a rat..."
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From: SGKD...@aol.com
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:15:48 -0400
Subject: Jethro Tull on tour
Hi,
I just heard that Jethro Tull is coming to Great Woods, near Boston, on Aug.
26th of this year. They will be appearing with Emerson, Lake, and Palmer.
Do you know if they have any other dates in our area (Mass.) this year. I
saw them in Boston last year, the show was excellent!
Thank You,
A Tull fan for at least 20 years!
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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 01:10:59 -0500
From: thef...@interport.net (TONE)
Subject: TULL & ELP ? ? ? ?
Hello:
I just checked the ticket master WEB site for the N.Y. & N.J. Tull & ELP
tour dates but the only show mentioned is the 9-6-96 Cincinnati show.
Whats Up ?
TONE.
[Ticketmaster is always very slow on getting dates. -ds]
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Date: 29 Apr 1996 14:01:03 -0000
From: Jay_...@k12bangor.maine.com (Jay Slade)
Organization: Bangor School Department
Subject: Concert Dates for Hartford?
att: SCC!
I saw previous mention of a Tull concert in Hartford CT, but there were no
specifics as far as a date for the show. I would love to know if anyone has
any idea when the show is, or could give me some more information, I'd
greatly appreciate it.
Thanks for providing such a perfect medium to pass my time while sitting here
within the constraints of school. :)
- ---
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From: Phil Clarke <ph...@asysa.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 96 16:19:02 +0100
Subject: Re: The St. Cleve Chronicle V7 #40
> ELP and Jethro Tull combined tour - Summer 1996.
> US first, then to Japan later in the Fall.
A joint ELP and Jethro Tull tour!
Being a great fan of both, I can't think of a show I'd like to see more.
Unfortunately, I seem to live on the wrong side of the Atlantic.
...you Americans out there don't know how lucky you are!
Does anybody know how this interesting joint venture came about?
ie. is there some sort of connection between JT and ELP as in a who knows
who sort of way?...if that makes any sense.
Moving on to the new edition of Aqualung...I'd been intending to buy that
album for a while but I'm really glad I waited now, especially as the sound
quality on the current issue maybe isn't quite what it could be.
I guess it is inevitable that the rest of the albums will also be
remastered at some point; does anybody know whether this is going to be in
the relatively near future?
As for the recurring theme of Mr A's voice; I saw the RtB tour last autumn
and I have the radio broadcast of the Manchester show on tape. Anyway, the
odd thing is that his voice seems to be worst at the start of the show and
then later improves noticeably.
I think the 'almost spoken' vocals on RtB are quite effective. They don't
exactly make me think 'my word, this is one of the worlds finest vocalists'
but it sure doesn't make me think 'this guy is really off tune, I wish he
hadn't bothered'.
Have a nice day...
Phil.
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Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:28:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Damian J Krabill <dam...@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
Subject: Detroit, Cleveland Columbus or Toledo concert dates...
Will there be anyshows in this area?? Does anyone know
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Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:44:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Pollock <mpol...@chaph.usc.edu>
Subject: Re: The St. Cleve Chronicle V7 #41
Hello, My name is Mike. I am a huge fan of Jethro TUll, and I am glad I
now have a forum to discuss my thoughts on Jethro. I was interested in
knowing when the next Tull tour is? And when will it be in Southern
California? That is all I have to say today due to the fact that I have
finals at 8:00 in the A.M. tommorow.
MIKE POLLOCK mpol...@scf.usc.edu
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Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 08:22:00 -0500
From: Anthony James <jam...@hqamc.safb.af.mil>
Subject: Tull's Coming to St Louis?
Fellow Tullsters,
Can it be true? In V7 #43 there was a listing of ELP/Tull tour
dates. It listed Sep 13 as the date they will be in St Louis. Please
tell me this is not someone's idea of a cruel joke. I have never seen
Tull before, but if this is accurate I'll be the first in line at the
ticket counter. Maybe I won't have to sell my soul after all :-)
"the day-glo pirate sinks at last--and if I laughed a bit to fast.
Well it was up to me." Aqualung I.A.
Cheerio,
Tony James
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 07:04:24 +0200
From: st2...@hsvax1.hs.uni-hamburg.de (Phillip Helbig)
Subject: Jethro Tull's large following
> From: r_g...@ACAD.FANDM.EDU (Rohan Ghosh)
> [...]
> before they made the leap to the artsy Passion. But then Tull never really
> had that big a following as U2 or the Police. Again, around the same time
I remember seeing a headiline once: `Jethro---world's biggest band' or
something similar. Around the time of Brick, Tull were right up there
with Uriah Heep, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin etc. Much bigger than Floyd
at that time. All these bands were playing stadiums then. Uriah Heep
play clubs with maybe a few hundred in the audience today, still
technically and artistically good. Maybe Tull will play to so few
people one day.
- --
Phillip Helbig email ........................ phe...@hs.uni-hamburg.de
Hamburger Sternwarte Tel. .................................. +49 40 7252 4110
Gojenbergsweg 112 Fax ................................... +49 40 7252 4198
D-21029 Hamburg http://www.hs.uni-hamburg.de/english/persons/helbig.html
I don't speak for the Hamburg Observatory; the Observatory doesn't speak for me.
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From: "Alumno ETSI Telecomunicacion" <jvar...@etsit.upv.es>
Organization: Universidad Politecnica
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 11:56:58 +0000
Subject: You forgot some Celts...
Hi all. While reading one of the last articles about the subject "Is
England Celtic or what?" I noticed one message where it was said that
"Celtic refers to Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall and Brittany -
AND THESE ALONE". Well, I disagree: you forgot Galicia, on the
Northwest of Spain. And I'm not the only one who says this; if some
of you have the Chieftains' "A Chieftains Celebration" album (a
wonderful record that I encourage you to get) you'll see the second
song is called "Galicia", accompanied by the text "Galicia is a
Celtic region on the NW of Spain. This medley is just a taste of the
fine music that can be heard there". Moreover, in the last song,
called "Millenium Suite", the Chieftains are joined by other Celtic
musicians, among them the group Milladoiro from Galicia.
I think that's all. Read you later.
Jaime Vargas (Jimmy)
ETSI Telecomunicacion
Universidad Politecnica de Valencia (Valencia, Spain)
jvar...@etsit.upv.es
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From: Eduardo Mota <eduar...@telepac.pt>
Subject: Acoustic and Classical Tull Albums
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 12:39:57 +-200
Greetings
I am subscribing St. Cleeve Chronicle since last year, but this
my first post.
I knew Jethro Tull in 1972, when I heard "Thick As Brick". After
"Songs from the Wood" I had a break with Tull's music until I discover
"A Little Light Music", two years ago.
Since then I am trying to get some of the albums I missed out. I
must confess I prefer the acoustic pieces, with Ian singing and
playing acoustic guitar, and the ones with folk or classical
influences too. For this I need the help of Jethro Tull expert.
Does anybody advise me in this matter?
Best regards
Eduardo
===========================================
Eduardo Mota (Gouveia, Portugal)
eduar...@telepac.pt
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From: GATZKE MARCUS <LIYO...@lin3.smf.nottingham.ac.uk>
Organization: SMF, Univ of Nottingham
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 13:34:52 GMT0BST
Subject: Some questions!
Hi!
Last October I came to the Uk to study here for one year (University
of Nottingham!) and I thought that I could get some rare Tull items
here in England. And now finally I found some, that I might not have
found in Germany (where I come from). At first I got the Thick as a
Brick album as the original Newspaper version. Is it really rare?
Then I got the Living in the Past album (2 records) with the big
booklet inside. This one is really nice. With lots of old pictures of
the bandmembers inside (rare? I paid stlg10) Teen I got an EP
called Said she was a dancer. On the cover it says that it was issued
before the Crest of a knave album and it has some tracks on it that
never
heard of. The problem is that I cannot play them at the moment,
because my record player is back in Germany (I have to wait 'til July
*sigh*) I paid only stlg1 for it and I think thats a good bargain!
Anybody knows something about this EP and the tracks on it? I looked
into a collectors guide and there it said that there exists also a
picture LP version of said she was a dancer that is quite rare! (mine
is only the "normal" version) At last I found the Stand-up
album.(with th band standing up when you open the cover)
Another thing I heard is that there is an Aqualung album (record
version) with a leather cover. True?
Most of the Tull stuff I have is on CD but since I came to England I
am in favour of this old records again. The sound might be less good
than the one of the CD but they have some kind of atmosphere only
records have! So I will keep om searching!!
Marcus.
My email: liyo...@lin3.smf.nottingham.ac.uk ( for some infos about
the records)
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From: Per Ekstrom <Per.E...@zoofys.lu.se>
Subject: One-offs
Date: Thu, 2 May 96 15:43:55 +0200
As has been evident from previous postings, IA often
during a tour uses some "routine" anecdotes etc., for
instance saying that it was fun making the Divinities
album although apparently not many found it fun buying
it. Also, inviting all of the audience out for dinner,
provided he got the royalties from Eagles for their
Hotel California, seems to have been part of the
routine lately when playing "We used to know". While
these unspontaneous remarks are fun enough to listen to
at the concerts, and may well have their value even in
the light of their routine-character, there must surely
be a lot of one-offs that are even more enjoyable. It's
therefore a pleasure that some people, notably Sigi in
Germany (http://www.bungi.com/sigi/jtull.htm), have
started collecting them. I now wonder, was the
following a one-off, thought of at the moment, remark,
occuring only at the Copenhagen concert Oct. 2, 1995,
or have others also heard it at other concerts during
the recent RtB tour?
- - After seeing something on the stage floor, IA bends
down to pick it up, looks at it and states: "Oh my God,
it's a hair! Is it yours Martin? You really should be
more careful with what you're doing with the little
hair you have got left! Do you want it back? If you
won't have it, I sure will take it!" -
What do you say?
Cheers
Per E
Per Ekstrom, Ass. Prof.,
Dept. Animal Physiology,
University of Lund,
Helgonavagen 3B,
S-223 62, LUND, SWEDEN
Tel: +46 46 222 4587
Fax. +46 46 222 4539
e-mail: per.e...@zoofys.lu.se
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Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 09:39:03 -0700
From: George Hulseman <ge...@opendoor.com>
Subject: Submission to St. Cleve
*****************************
OK, kids, I went out and finally bought a Tull album, after hearing
them on the radio every so often. I bought "Original Remasters" which
I assume is a greatest hits type o' album. What album would you
suggest that I but next? Does all of Tull's music sound pretty much
the same, or is there a lot of variety over the years as in Pink Floyd
or Moody Blues?
TIA,
******************************
Ha! You will get a wide variety in response to that question. Here is my
take:
I hate greatest hits album because you simply miss out on some of the
best songs. Every Jethro Tull is different. So, you will never get any
one album that truly defines Tull.
Aqualung is probably one of the finest rock albums ever released,
primarily for its non-hits. Wait until the new re-mastered CD is
released which contains some extra tracks and an interview.
I, personally, really like Living in the Past. It's a great mix of songs
spanning over several years, released just before Aqualung. Life Is A
Long Song and Wondering Again are truly great songs.
Thick as a Brick album is a masterpiece.
So is Minstrel in the Gallery, althougn it is a bit more on the hard
rock side. Songs From the Wood is essential.
Finally, I really like Stormwatch and "A" and I freely admit that many
Tull fans would not say the same thing.
Sincerely,
George Hulseman
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 09:49:03 -0700
From: f...@plaza.ds.adp.com (Frank P. Viviano)
Subject: At Last, Forever
Several of the recent posts defended the track "At Last, Forever",
especially the live version.
My opinion of the studio version has remained the same. A nicely textured
song, touching lyrics (once you figure out what it is about!)...but...a
little too repetitive and long. Generally, I listen to half of it and then
hit the FF button.
A fellow St. Clever described it to me well: Not a bad song, but if
anything on this album feels like "filler" to me, it's this.
After hearing the live version, however, I would have to agree with the
recent posts. It far exceeds the studio version. I play the live version
over and over and never tire of it. Ian sings it beautifully and the band
seems to play it with more enthusiasm.
Most of the RTB songs, for that matter, come off even better live. Good
songs like "Out of the Noise" and "Dangerous Veils" become monsters live.
My favorite remains the title track. From Doane's percussion bits in the
quiet beginning, it is pure Tull.
Looking forward to the summer tour...I hope that RTB remains prominent in
the set list.
Franco
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 16:01:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: "R. Andrew Bowyer" <rabo...@nrv.net>
Subject: Flying So High...
Ladies and Gentlemen:
Greetings...In a recent issue of the Cleve, Joseph Cimmino
<jos...@sequoia.sequoia.com>, made the following observation:
>Did Ian ever experiment in his youth?
>Who knows, I think we can all safely assume based on most things he has said
>that it is not one of his favorite pastimes now. But ......
>"Flying so high trying to remember how many cigarettes did I bring along?
>Maybe he is on an airplane and is tired so he has memory loss.
>Maybe he is goofing making fun of some silly stoner.
In the 25th Anniversary Lyric book, Mr. Anderson plainly states that "To Cry
You A Song" was NOT at all about drugs, and that the opening lyrics showed a
certain degree of bad songwriting, because of the (not so) obvious
double-meaning of "Flying so high..." This, of course is being written from
memory, as I am at work and my copy of the book is at home, but rest assured
that the gist of what I am saying is 100% accurate. As for Ian and Drugs, I
had the pleasure of interviewing Ian once, and based on that am SURE that he
will only indulge in alcohol, and only then in the comfort of a very private
place, and NEVER before performing.
>As for the cigarette habit. Don't worry Tommy I'm sure he doesn't inhale.
Actually, according to the RtoB tour book, Andrew Giddings is the only
smoker in the band, so I am inclined to believe that Ian gave up smoking.
And GOOD for him! : )
Cheerio, all!
Andy
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From: Matthew Sexton <ma...@freenet.tlh.fl.us>
Subject: I ain't just whistling Aqualung!
Date: Thu, 2 May 96 18:47:53 EDT
I have been pondering why we all love Ian's little quotes...
i have come to the conclusion that any clever phrase is funnier when
told with the calm unlaughing English/British accent. Though some
would argue that if it was told by someone with a southern accent
while hysterically laughing it would be funny to...hmmmm....
any-hoo..i was wondering how you people get ahold of those extremely
rare cds (they're rare to me not to you...duh!)...i shall list them
Broadsword and the Beast
A
Catfish Rising
Walk into (the?) Light
Rock(s) something or other
Minstrel in the gallery
Divinities
Too Old to (jump around on stage like a 20 year old) too young to die
on the other hand i have seen many albums here (by the way...i live in
Tallahassee Fla..the most boring capital in the world)...such as a
classic case...that you people have been wondering aloud for. there
are only two places i have yet to check in this town...Circuit
City...and Spec's music store...for some odd reason...it's like
climbing a down escalator..i finally have time to get to those stores
and then i don't go...wait that's not climbing a down escalator...i
think i lost my analogy entirely....however i do believe that hell is
falling down a fast "Up" escalator..hence eternal falling...thump
thump thump thump thump....etc etc
on a slightly less tullish note...is playing a mandolin terribly hard
to do without lessons...if you are extremely talented at playing
guitar?....
- --
0+
|-----------------------------------------------|
Splotch's Monthly Jethro Tull Response...
As Seen On Tv...maybe not
"Well they can excommunicate me on my
way to Sunday school..."--Ian Anderson
(Jethro Tull)
"No...but if you walk on the grass or
park in the pastors parking spot...."
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From: Timothy Esposito <espo...@lasalle.edu>
Subject: Celtic influences on English
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 18:46:59 -0400 (EDT)
OK, I noticed that some poeple were talking about Celtic influences
on England. This semester I took a class on the history of the English
language. One of the section which was covered was Celtic
influences on English. So, here are some interesting quotes
from Baugh and Cable's "A History of the English Language."
"Nothing would seem more reasonable than to expect that the
conquest population of Briaain by the Anglo-Saxons and the
subsequent mixture of the two peoples should have resulted
in a corresponding mixture of their languages..... For it is apparent
that the Celts were by no means exterminated except in certain areas,
and that in most of England large numbers of them were gradually
assimilated into the new culture..... When we come, however,
to seek the evidence for this contact in the English language,
investigation yields meager results. Such evidence exists in
place-names.... cumb (deep valley), torr (high rock, peak)
Cornwall means the `Cornubrian Welsh', and the former
county Cumberland (now part of Cumbria) is the 'land
of the Cymry or Britons'..... Thus the Thames is a Celtic
river name.... [Following this is a list of many Celtic words
and their roots.] It does not appear that many of these Celtic words
attained a very permanent place in the English language. Soon
some died out, and others acquired only local currency. The relations
of the [Celts and Anglo-Saxons] was not such as to bring about any
considerable influence on English life or on English speech.
The survivng Celts were a submerged people. The Anglo-Saxon
found little occassion to adopt Celtic modes of expression,
and the Celtic influence remains the least of the early
influences that affected the English languaage" (p. 72-74).
OK, I know that was a bit much. I did a bit of selective quoting.
There is about three pages of this stuff. Anyway, this is my view
on Celtic influeinces on English. Note that this pretains to
the language, and not music or art, necessarilly. I kind of see
a people's language as a base for their culture, so I think
it may be linked to the discussion about Ian using Celtic
influences. What better way is there to destroy a foreignor's
culture than to remove their native language? Not that I am
advocating such measures. Anyway, I thought that this
excerpt kind of added to the discussion. Any ideas or comments?
- --
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
"There are some who call me ... Tim?" -MPatHG
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-Tim E
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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 00:58:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Kington <kin...@kwic.com>
Subject: Re:SCCV7 #41 What Makes...
>Date: 11 Apr 96 03:07:36 EDT
>From: Mike <10215...@CompuServe.COM>
>Subject: What makes a GOOD TULL album ??
What a question!!
Have been following JT since Brick, seen every tour since Warchild. Have
every US/Cdn release up to Crest on vinyl and/or tape and since have bought
it all again (and everything since) on CD. Just today picked up an import
from UK -- BBC Live at Hammersmith Odeon Oct 8/91. So, I've heard em all,
and feel at least a little bit qualified to shoot my mouth off. Here goes...
I think we've all been a bit disappointed with at least one or more albums
over the years. One has an expectation or presumption of what we'll hear,
obviously based on what's come out before. We all have our favourites, old
stand-bys. But you know, I think I can say that on the whole, I've pretty
much always liked the "latest" album as much as the previous one(s) after
having given each a chance to sink in. I can remember a bunch of times
running home with the new album, tossing it on the turntable, and then
saying, "...well... it's not really as good as_________". Then, after
playing it another couple times realizing that is was just different
from__________.
I remember listening to HH the first time, and being bummed that there
didn't seem to be as much guitar as on Minstrel. Black Satin Dancer it
wasn't. But listen to the end of Weathercock: it's only, like, a couple of
bars, but Martin in those few moments still lives up to and exceeds your
expectations.
Bottom line is as these guys grow older, they change. In some cases they
have gone back to influences/periods from the past. Don't we all? Look at
Catfish: so much blues. But blues is where these guys all started. Don't we
all derive comfort from "going back to the ones that I know, with whom I can
be what I want to be"?
Then look at Roots. Some of the influences here almost seem unprecedented.
Some of the stuff just blew me away when I first heard it. No, it doesn't
rock the same way as stuff from the 70's, but that was 20 yrs ago. Does
this mean these guys don't know how to rock any more? Obviously not: just
look at their shows. They rock even BETTER on some songs now than they did
when they first did em.
So, where am I going with all this? I think Ian and Martin have gotten
better as they they have grown up/older. What's been lost, though, is the
overall aspect of the BAND. Someone made a comment here about the more
recent albums sounding "harsher...kinda broken, fragmented, ...not
meliflous..." I agree, and blame it on how I'm assuming Ian is recording
the albums, ie alot of him by himself at home, then adding the other guys
in. My first listen to Catfish gave me the impression that Martin might
have laid all his parts after everything else was done. A lot of his stuff
sounded like he was by himself when he did it. But put these guys on stage
together, and they find the groove. I look at the cover of MITG and imagine
what is was like up on that balcony, behind that curtain while they were
recording the instrumental/solo segue between the "acoustic" and "electric"
portions of the title track. I picture one take, done. Or Cold Wind to
Valhalla. I picture the band just doin' it. The more recent stuff seems
more "constructed" for lack of a better description. But, it makes sense
why that has happened based on the evolution of the group as a unit.
One of the most interesting things about Tull is that each album IS
different from the previous one. Sure there are Ianisms throughout,
Martinisms (thank god!!) abound, but each album reflects a moment/period in
time, and can't possibly be the same as the past.
And that's why I still get excited when a new album comes out, cause you
just never know what you're gonna hear until you turn it on.
Mr. Moderator: forgive my being verbose. Thank you.
Dave K.
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From: Luck...@aol.com
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 00:47:36 -0400
Subject: I Don't Know...
So here I am. There. No fancy greetings, sorry.
This evening I'm here to ramble about my latest discovery. Not that it's
new--just for me.
I recently found the 25 Years Box and so I spent the humongous amount of cash
to buy it and am very glad I did. Except...I got robbed. I got two copies
of the "Beacons Bottoms Tapes" and no 4th cd. So I have to wait a week for
another copy. Ah well.
I'm here to put my thoughts out on this collection. Summary:
Yes!!
I love it.
What really has astounded me is the Beacons Bottoms Tapes. I think this was
the best move they've done in a very long time. I really mean that. To go
back and redo things how they like 'em and maybe with a few new twists.
Noteably:
1. "Bouree" I had a tape of A Little Light Music with the new version of
Bouree on it but I can't find it. The new fluting shows how Mr. A has become
simply the Best flautist we will ever see.
2. "Cheerio" They turned a quick 1-minute song into a 4-minute masterpeice of
instrumentation. This song to me was what I was always looking for in JT.
An instrumentation that really doesn't seem their style. But it is their
style. This song is especially astounding to me becasue of one Martin Barre.
His acoustic work has always been wonderful to me. Cheerio proved how much
of a master he is on the guitar. It is so flawless and in the light,
seemingly soft method it is delivered in is really inspiring to me. Martin
has a changing style of guitar playing, much like IA and his music, that
could belong to no one else besides JT. But it belongs all to Martin, who
makes it a part of JT. He has only gotten better.
3. "Protect and Survive" Much like Cheerio in the way it's delivered;
un-JT-like if you care to think that way; to me JT-like is every style of
music blended together and various styles highlighted at different times. I
am not a fan of the original Protect and Survive--too odd for me. But this
acoustic version is so satisfying. It's just "feel good" stuff that is
unmatched. I'm really having difficulty wording my thoughts here, sorry.
What gets me is how they make difficult music sound so easy and flawless.
These two acoustic songs are what I always was looking for in JT's music.
4. "Jack-A-Lynn" When I got this collection that was the first song I turned
to. It was also the first JT song that caused my eyes to glaze over and fill
with...well, you know. Acoustic style, to me, has always been the most deep
and thougt-provoking. J-A-L put acoustically was also one of the best moves
ever done. Here what gets me is Dave's bass playing--masterful. So light
and perfect yet still bass-like it's (I can't put this stuff into words!)...
And then there's Mr. A. Wow. He knew his voice was bad and so he stuck
with his limitations. So that's what grasped me...he knew he couldn't get
the sense of longing like the original version when his voice was bad. So he
just sang--simply and no tries to impress anyone. And as the song wound down
he used his flute which put the feelings of the song far deeper than lyrics
ever can. I think it's his most deep song he's done.
That's all. That's just what I think. Goodnight.
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From: Matthew Sexton <ma...@freenet.tlh.fl.us>
Subject: it was a tull day yesterday but it's an odd day now
Date: Thu, 2 May 96 17:26:15 18000
First of all to the person that mentions RtB in 3-D. Wait!..i thought
that the background on the cover looked like one of those
Hallusions...or steriograms..or whatever the hell people call them...i
tried to stare...(as i am a master of the art of staring at
things...trying to make them blow up...for those Emo fans)...the
letters and other art on the cover made this tough...so...is there a
hidden picky-ture?...or was this an issolated incedent where i have no
idea what anyone is saying....
also for the person who said..."all those people who say..i could be
Ian if i could get my hair that way..."...well dammit i thought i was
alone on that one...can i remove my statement..."i could be like ian
if i could play the flute..."...i was..uhh..being sarcastic...yeah
that's it....[mumbles] sarcastic yeah that's the one...
and when the hell are you people gonna post my top ten fnniest
misheard tull lyrics....?
a tull day yesterday!...i was on my way to school when i heard
Locomotive Breath playing on the radio...ah..yes...a good day...i
reached school and was chatting with some people about my band...and
how we have a flutist...(they said "all flutists are gay.." i said
well he also play the picolo...they said "piccoloists are fat and
gay..." i said "screw you bizzatch!"...i was mad now....)...so i go
into the class and we were watching channel one...the news show for
high schools...and when the went to the commercials they play some
music...and they played a snippet o' tull..."Hey!
Aqualung!"....later...i went to the mall for lunch and picked up the
20 years one cd thing-a-mabob...the guy at the counter gave me an odd
look and laughed out loud...i said..."i think i'll take my business
elswhere next time, pocker-boy!"....so i get back to school and i walk
into the class and this guy runs into the class and glances at the
clock and exclaims "Well beat me with a flute and call me Jethro
Tull...I made it on time..." we watched a film on glaciers...a not
very tullish subject...(with the exclusion of "somethings on the
move") but in the film they mention the Isle of Skye where i believe
it was that the song Dun Ringill is based...or something very tullish.
on the way home they play Teacher on the radio...(not bad two in one
day)...i get home and open my cd (20 years) to discover that the guys
at the packing plant packed two copies in a normally one copy
album...now if that's not luck...then...uhhh....well...it's luck okay.
does this happen to everyone?...am i experiencing a mysterious tull
phenomena?...[whistles theme from the "twilight zone"]
also...we've talked about tull and rush...well i have noticed many
people thanking me for the use of my Emo Philips signoff...(which i
have gotten rid of for the sake of business letters...)...is there
some strange connection...is it the religious jokes...or is it that we
are a breed of people who enjoy socially unacceptable stuff...by the
way don't flame me for that one...don't waste my time flaming
me...lifes too short to flame me..
Tull and Rush (of a different sort)...here's a cool concept that only
those who reside in the states would understand...Ian having a debate
with Rush Limbaugh...eh?....what might they agree on...what might they
disagree on...how long would it take before Ian would punch the fat
guy out?....hehheh.
post this one or i may be forced to...play a badly fractured tull song
on my guitar...[off key] Oh Aqualung...
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