The St. Cleve Chronicle V7 #60
Dave Steiner , The Moderator
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The St. Cleve Chronicle Friday, 7 Jun 1996 Volume 7 : Issue 60
Today's Topics:
hello/introduction
I cannot believe it!
Many Thanks! :->
drugs & creativity
Rock Flutes
Cat Squirrel, again
Tull tribute Album
(Fwd) Hello, and out of place songs
Portrait of a Minstrel
Poll
St. Cleve V7#53
RtB, Divinities and other stories
hello from japan
Biographical data about IA ?
length of songs
long songs
RE: The St. Cleve Chronicle V7 #53
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From: Duck...@aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 23:21:58 -0400
Subject: hello/introduction
Hello, everyone. My name is David and I'm new to the Tull list. I was a
hardcore Tull fan up until about Heavy Horses. After Broadsword I stopped
buying their albums because I was disappointed with the direction they were
taking. I'm partial to the more acoustic side: Wondering Aloud/Again, Skating
Away, Salamander, Fat Man, etc... (although I loved the dark and depressing
Minstrel in the Gallery - especially side 2). I was wondering if any of the
more recent studio albums showed a return to the more acoustic style that I
refer to. Roots to Branches, perhaps?
Also, being a drummer, I was wondering if anyone knows what Barriemore Barlow
is doing now (musically, that is).
Well, thanks in advance for any replies.
- -David
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Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 00:31:21 -0300
From: Naylor Vilas Boas <bvb...@hexanet.com.br>
Subject: I cannot believe it!
Hi, everybody around the world !
I couldn't believe when I discover a place where people talk about one of my
life's passion - JETHRO TULL !! ( Another passion is the power trio - RUSH !)
I was there, in the last Tull's last presentation here in Rio - Brazil, just
a few
days before Ian's accident. When I knew I became a little worried, but I
hope he is
OK now, isn't he?
Another point: at the show, Ian's voice wasn't very well. He managed to sing
some
parts of certain musics and parts of others musics his voice didn't sound
anyway. I
thought maybe he was in a bad day. Someone who listened live Tull recently
thought the same I did?
Bye,
Naylor
<bvb...@hexanet.com.br>
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 23:25:17 -0500
From: Jeff Carpenter <je...@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Many Thanks! :->
Greetings fellow citizens of St. Cleve!
I just wanted to thank you all for inspiring me to take out my old
albums and give them a fresh listen. I have been listening to Tull
probably since I heard "Bungle in the Jungle" on the radio as a kid and
have been collecting their albums for about 5 years.
I dusted off my collection of gems and have found that I really
enjoyed some of the early recordings like "This Was" and "Stand Up". I
have always considered myself a fan and enjoyed the variety in their albums
but pretty much stuck to listening to Aqualung, TAAB and some of the
Greatest Hits stuff. Perhaps because my musical tastes have matured in the
past few years -I turned 30 last year-I now find that I enjoy the jazz and
blues in the first few albums more.
When I first heard RTB, I hated it. "Another Harry's Bar" sounded
too much like Dire Straits for my taste. I tend to prefer their more heavy
stuff, and this is a bit mellower. However, after reading the seemingly
endless debate on the merits of it, I decided to try again. This time with
no distractions, just me and the music.
****I like this album!****
I have even found that it wasn't all that different as I had originally
thought.
Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for opening up my mind.
Otherwise some of this great stuff would have just sat for years on my
shelf without my ever listening to them. Just a museum piece, and I
believe the albums are much happier now that they are being appreciated for
more than just their cover art.
***BTW, I have found a lot of the cds at the local Best Buy. Including
some of the things the people of SCC said were hard to come by or out of
print. Re-issues or something?
Also, a radio station popped up here locally that broadcasts over
the web using RealAudio. They play almost anything. Their mottos are "The
best music you've never heard." and "If we get near a piece of music, we'll
play it." They take requests over the net, and will probably play some RTB
and other obscure stuff. The URL is "http://www.webxfm.com"
Thanks for listening to me ramble,
Jeff Carpenter
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*When I go, I want to go like Grandpa, in his sleep.*
*Not like the screaming passengers in his car. *
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 22:23:59 -0800
From: Harlan Marshall <hmar...@polarnet.com>
Subject: drugs & creativity
On Sat, 4 May 96 19:45:09 +0100 N.Tho...@lancaster.ac.uk (Mr. Neil R.
Thomason) wrote:
> Yes, VERY interesting choice, and one which totally trashes Harlan's idea.
> Remember '_Shine_On_You_Crazy_Diamond_' ? Ever wondered why all Floyd
> concerts start with it? It's dedicated to, and about, Syd Barrett, their
> original lead guitarist (well, first as Pink Floyd, anyway). His brain was
> (allegedly) fried by his illicit chemical experiments, the band was forced
> to bring in Dave Gilmour and effectively dump Syd. He's now largely a
> recluse who apparently can't bear to talk about his musical career.
> Creative drugs, eh? :)
Man, if this *totally trashes* my idea, reason as we know it is in
deep trouble.
I'm fully aware of Syd "I've got a bike. You can ride it if you like"
Barrett. Because an ex-member of the band lost his sanity through drug abuse
(*if* that truly was the cause) and they dedicate a song to him you conclude
that drugs never contributed to Pink Floyd's music (or anyone else's for
that matter). Isn't that a bit of a stretch? It's fine if you don't agree
that drugs can enhance creativity. It's possible that Ian Anderson might
think as you do.
And, hey, maybe I'm wrong, but my personal experience with psychedelics
leads me to strongly believe that there are many beneficial effects as well
as negative ones. I suspect many musicians feel the same, but few talk about
it openly.
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Harlan Marshall
Skyline Computing Services
hmar...@polarnet.com
Skating away on the thin ice of a new day ...
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From: R...@konbib.nl
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 09:58:34 +0200
Subject: Rock Flutes
Hi!
Some Dutch bands have been mentioned as having used the flute to
some extent in rock music. But of course there have been many
more bands that used all sorts of flutes and other
wind-instruments in the late sixties and early seventies. Using
as many exotic instruments as possible was considered cool in
those days.
Apart from Focus and Golden Earring, in the Netherlands we had a
cult-bluesband called Bintangs. Also Brainbox, a predecessor of
Focus (and a very good band indeed!!) used occasional fluting. A
flute, although not played too brilliantly, played a main part in
the work of Dutch Canterbury-ish band Supersister (later trying
to become a serious musical influence by playing with Elton Dean
of Soft Machine-fame. A flute-player as well, if memory serves)
In Italy, all the great art-rock bands used flutes: PFM, Banco,
Area. In England there was Caravan (Jimmy Hastings: jazz-flautist
par excellence), or even King Crimson. Peter Gabriel originally
played flutes for Genesis when not singing.
Zappa used flutes (and saxes, sousaphones, minimoogs or anything
else that he could get his hands on)
What to say of Finnish group Tasavallan Presidentii, winner of
the all time Jethro Tull sound-alike competition?
Let's face it: around 1970/75, when rock music wanted to be
interesting and adventurous (unlike today), the flute was a well
accepted and very common rock-instrument, no matter what people
say nowadays.
And it were bands like Jethro Tull that started it.
The Hague/Amsterdam, Robert K. Eksteen
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Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 09:28:44 +0200
From: Claude Calteux <claude....@infoboard.be>
CC: jna...@soemail.ucsd.edu
Subject: Cat Squirrel, again
I have a version of this tune by Michael Katon (not Keaton!).
It's credited to a certain Skip James...
(on "Proud to be Loud", 1993)
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Claude | ~. _ .~ | Calteux
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From: Jos Leenknegt <swc...@unicall.be>
Subject: Tull tribute Album
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 14:32:16 +0200
It was mentioned that a Jethro Tull tribute album, named 'To Cry you a
song', would be released by Magna Carta on May, 21th. Is there anymore
information available on that?
I this a worldwide release date or only for the U.S. ?
Does Magna Carta have an e-mail address ?
Thanks.
[It was slightly delayed... the current release date is now July
2nd. I hope to have a review in the next day or two. While it
should be available in normal US record stores, I don't know if they
have non-US distribution. Here's order information if you want to
get the CD directly from Magna Carta:
"To order Magna Carta releases, please send $15.98 per CD to:
Magna Carta
Suite 1820
208 East 51st Street
New York, NY 10022
Add $5 per title for outside the U.S."
Their email address is mag...@aol.com. -ds]
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From: "P.I.Powell" <P.I.P...@sheffield.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 14:14:12 +0100
Subject: (Fwd) Hello, and out of place songs
I am resubmitting this message as I am not sure if you received it
when I previously sent it for inclusion in The St Cleve Chronicle.
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From: p.i.p...@sheffield.ac.uk
To: JT...@jtull.rutgers.edu
Subject: Hello, and out of place songs
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 08:21:01 +0100
I am a new recruit to the SCC, 42 years old & have been a fan of Tull
since 1968. I must say it's a great feeling to know that there are so
many like minded Tull fans out there and I find the SCC an absolute
mine of information! Keep up the good work!
In SCC #46 Mike Lenox wrote:" Where the hell does "Teacher" come from
on the Benefit album?" Maybe I can shed a wee bit of light on the
subject. In England, "Teacher" was not actually on the album but was,
in fact, the `B' side of "Witches Promise", a song with which it does
fit more snugly. I believe that it may have been added to the album
in the USA only. In the UK, it only appeared on the "Living In The
Past" double album.
With reference to favourite Tull, my personal fave album is Aqualung
(I first saw Tull live on the tour to promote it, supported by Procol
Harum and Tir Na Nog (?) a folk duo from Ireland), followed by Songs
>From The Wood, Stormwatch & Catfish Rising. I find the Roots To
Branches album one of the least readily-accessible albums from the
band, but one which is a definite `grower' and which contains what i
consider to be JT's best song for years, `Valley'.
Finally, I keep seeing references to Ian's accident causing him to
perform in a wheelchair - what happened to him and where? We get very
litrtle coverage of Tull in the media in the UK and I haven't seen
any mention of it.
Phil Powell
"And the turntable spins
As the last waltz begins
And the weatherman says
Something's on the move"
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From: TOMM...@aol.com
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 10:09:05 -0400
Subject: Portrait of a Minstrel
Hold on, i know this may be quite a stretch.
On a list with so many posts made by intelligent people, some of you must be
familiar with James Joyce. I am neither a Joyce scholar nor a top-notch
"every album on disc and vinyl, been to three-hundred concerts, and wear my
hair like IA circa 1970" Tull fan so this is a rather loose hypothesis but
perhaps some of you can help me with it: i believe Anderson was at least
somewhat inspired by James Joyce.
Focus on Minstrel in the Gallery for a moment. A line in Requiem reads
"My lady told me, 'stay;' i turned aside and walked away... along the
strand." The parallel joyce segment is too long in entirety but for a slice,
in "Portrait of the artist.." Stephen is watching a girl "in midstream,"
when: "--Heavenly God! cried stephen's soul, in an outburst of prophane joy.
He turned away from her suddenly and set off across the strand." The
narritive style of "Baker St. Muse" is similar to the "Wandering Rocks"
episode of Ulysses wherein an objective, removed narrator jouneys around the
city, or street as it may be, at views the ongoings various people.
Other, more general similarities: both are (were) innovative and have
pushed the limits of their chosen arts far past their predecessors (or
successors). Both have been affected by that rare virus strain of "aesthetic
superiosis" and cram their work with powerful beauty and poingancy. Both have
presented sex in art with frankness without becoming vulgar, as most lesser
writers cannot avoid. Both are European (im reaching). Both faced
exile--Tull's legendary tax exile and Joyce's self-exacted "Exile" from
Ireland. Both have shown distaste towards religion (or the hypocritical
practicers they may have suffered under)--and yet their work is saturated
with imagery and concepts from religion...
I may be off, and ian may not even know who Joyce was, but there are
many "Maybe-references" in Tull lyrics to Joyce, and though it may all be
coincidental it could also be true.
My vote for the song that doesnt fit is "Slow Marching Band"--perhaps only
because i like it so much more that the rest of Broadsword (though i do like
the rest, it's just that Slow.. seems to maintain that Tull feel without
being to "traditionally Tull," keeping with the spirit of the "experimental
eighties").
Fidyin
"Evil may be an illusion and merely selfish lack of patience.... but let me
get back to you on that."
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From: Gustavo Seluja/NCGR <Gustavo_Seluja/NC...@notes.ncgr.org>
Date: 24 May 96 9:55:04 EDT
Subject: Poll
Dear fanaticos
(including those with high blood cholesterol!),
IF this hasn't been done before, I'd like to conduct a poll as to your
favorite LIVE song of your favorite "one-man-band". I'm thinking you
can email your pick to me, and in, let's say, a couple of weeks, I
will submit the results to the Chronicle. How 'bout that? Cheers!
Gustavo (g...@ncgr.org).
"...show me a good man, and I'll show you the door..."
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Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 15:06:56 -0600
From: richard shepherd <rshe...@sltrib.com>
Subject: St. Cleve V7#53
Reading the post by David R Bayer and the inclusion of the New York
Times article made me realize that yes, indeed I am slowly getting
older! But no cause for panic yet-who was it that said too old to
rock and roll, too young to die? Heading home on a 737 yesterday, I
took out my discplayer and inserted Thick as a Brick, after deciding
against "Pontiac" by Lyle Lovett and a Mozart best-of compilation that
I carry around to relax to. As the acoustic guitar began, I opened
the jewel box and took out the front cover-portion;"The St. Cleve
Chronicle & Linwell Advertiser". The date on the front- Jan. 7,1972.
Not too awfully long after that I attended my first Tull concert with
my wife...Ian doing the stork routine while ripping off some mighty
fine riffs on the flute. Great concert and great memories. And back
in 1996 flying at 35000 feet listening to the same tunes; well, it
still gives me that....feeling that only certain music engenders. And
as I sit there jammed into that coach seat with the volume just a
notch below the maximum, I don't want it to end; because it's so good.
For the 500th time, it's soooo good.
Back to the post-I wanted to reply because I'm 43 years old, have been
listening to Jethro Tull since I bought my 1st copy of This Was back
in 1969. I don't profess to be an expert on Tull; indeed the
St. Cleve seems to be full of quite knowledgeable folk, and I enjoy
each issue. The point is that as I age, the band ages; and in it's
various stages and incarnations with Ian Anderson as the focus of the
energy, it is still as good as it was to me 27 years ago. I find no
other music in my collection that I can still play day in and day out,
except JT. I use music to set my moods; and the variety of Tull over
the years lends a hand often. I have my favorites of course, and some
recieve less play than others; "A" and Under Wraps might have a little
more dust on them. But the collection gets played overall much more
that any other music I have by a long way. I was glad to find this
site, and to find others with a similar interest.
Good listening to you!
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 00:18:18 -0700
From: Margitta Schega <m...@cubenet.de>
Subject: RtB, Divinities and other stories
Hello everybody,
I'm another new one here, so first the usual: I'm 31 in a few days,
working as a trainee for my provider and I got originally started as a
Tull-Fan sometime in the 80's, but depending on fact that governmental
disagreement to my con- fession caused lots of trouble to my live I
got no chance to get a hold of an album in that days. So I got started
listening to Tull-CDs almost 10 years later, but never say
die...Tull-music is that great I could remember on a short listening
to "A passion play Edit No. 8" 10 years later. That means quite a lot.
Reading my first self-recieved STCC today ( got some on disk from my
neighbor Sigi Kluger before ), I'm feeling somehow strange about the
discussion on which albums are ok and not. Personally I like RtB
aswell as Divinities. Yes, these are two of my favourite albums
together with Aqualung, TAAB and Walk into light, if I should say
there are favourites at all facing the fact I like each of the 30 CDs
and LPs I collected in just 8 months working on a fleamarket to make
this possible. So what's the matter on this continous discussion about
songs being good or not. I guess listening to all songs Ian wrote,
everybody is going to find out his own favourites, so continously
discussing what's good and what not seems rather useless.
Maybe my roots in new age makes me getting out more fun listening to
music in the middle-eastern style. I like other cultures and I share
Ian's interests in religion. However, I think the quality of a song
depends on the preferences of each one. It is very subjective and Ian
won't have a chance to satisfy each one of us. So he is doing how he
feels and likes it and I think that's great !
Unfortunatly missing the munich act last year about familiar
difficulties, it was not possible for me to go to the RtB-Tour-concert
on the 20th July this year. All summer dates are cancelled. At the
moment Ian is in a hospital in Sydney/Australia. The injury of his
leg on a concert in Peru causes trouble again. 4 days ago Berne from
Chrysalis wrote me that they try to bring him back to the UK in two
weeks. So facing this bad news that's some to be concerned
about. Hope Ian is going to do much better soon and hope to see him in
concert at least next year.
Maggy
ps: In times techno-bands write songs with a standard-lenght of 6, 8
or even 12 minutes repeating the same melody, rhythm and text over
and over and being broadcasted by radiostations 20 times each day
so you get sick listening to this, I guess it is off topic to
discuss the matter if 8 minutes for a good song is radiofriendly
or not..isn't it ?!
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I Maggy Schega email m...@cubenet.de I
I snail Richard-Strauss-Str 21, D-81677 Munich I
I ham DH3VY I
I I
I "Roots down in the wet clay, branches glistening." I
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Date: Sat, 25 May 96 14:10:40+0900
From: "Joseph E. Leblanc" <jos...@momo.nuae.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
Hello there! Calling from Japan!
First posting, had a great time reading the Chronicle
for many months. My best wishes for Ian's speedy recovery.
There was a question about the symbols in the cover of Divinities.
Mr. Amick was right in pointing out they are astronomical and
astrological symbols, but to be more specific, Mr. Zarkowski
mixed the symbols of the zoodiac and the planets, and a few
asterisks, triangles, and squares, to make an amusing composition.
These symbols have been used since the Middle Ages, partly in
connection with alchemy, astrology, but most seriously by the
astronomers like Copernicus, Tycho, and Kepler.
For example, the symbol assigned to Venus (goddess of love)
is a circle with a cross under it, and the one for Mars
(god of war) is a circle with an arrow pointing at 2:00 o'clock.
Now you know where the symbols for 'man and woman' come from!
As far as I can tell, these are the symbols in the right column:
Pisces (like an H)
(asterisk)
Venus (but upside down!)
Mercury
Aries (two ram horns)
Sun (big circle with dot)
Scorpio (like an M)
Capricorn
Saturn (like an h with a bar)
Sagittarius (bar and arrow)
Mercury
circle
triangle
cross
Gemini (like II)
Mercury (appears 4 times in the cover)
Aquarius (wiggly lines)
and a few symbols in the horizontal.
You can find these in many encyclopedias, or popular books of
astronomy. Also in books of astrology, but I'm a physicist,
and I don't share the belief in those superstitions.
By the way, I believe, respect, and admire Ian's integrity
about the use of drugs. Art is beyond stimulants.
My favorite album: Songs from the Woods; song: Life's a Long Song.
I also like Rush, but up to Moving Pictures and Permanent Waves.
After that, I never paid any attention to them.
I absolutely like Led Zeppelin.
Well, thanks for your precious time.
Joseph E. Leblanc
jos...@momo.nuae.nagoya-u.ac.jp
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 07:55:13 -0700
From: Margitta Schega <m...@cubenet.de>
Subject: Biographical data about IA ?
Hello everybody...
For a second time this month but there is one problem I have.
Digging around in the WWW I didn't found any biographical data
about Ian I was trying to get. I wonder if anyone of us have
some like this maybe out of an old newspaper or so ?! If yes,
it would be great if he could mail it to me. Thanks in advance !
Maggy
ps: Finally I found some I don't like on RtB. I bought a complete CD
and after this I found out there's a hole in the middle of it..:-)
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I Maggy Schega email m...@cubenet.de I
I snail Richard-Strauss-Str 21, D-81677 Munich I
I ham DH3VY I
I I
I "Roots down in the wet clay, branches glistening." I
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 23:18:41 +0200
From: st2...@hsvax1.hs.uni-hamburg.de (Phillip Helbig)
Subject: length of songs
> Date: Tue, 7 May 96 19:23:43 +0200
> From: amin...@AWI-Bremerhaven.DE (Andreas Minikin)
> Subject: Some songs too long?
[...]
> Quite a lot of you seem to think At last Forever, Beside Myself etc.
> last a little bit too long. 8 min of music where 4 min would have been
> enough? That's an interesting point because looking back on Tull's
> back catalogue I love some of the long songs and some tend to get a bit
> boring after the first minutes. Some examples? I am sorry to say, but
> have you ever thought of Heavy Horses being too long (the song, not the
> album)? Or even Aqualung (also the song, not the album of course)? Don't
> misunderstand me. Both songs are popular, rightly, and musically and
> lyrically of high quality (and I don't want to miss them), but still,
I also feel the same way about some Tull songs, particular these. Heavy
Horses is one of my all time favourites, but it should end after the
last `brewing heavy weather' without doing the fade out chorus (fade-
outs should be outlawed anyway). Aqualung should end after after the
quieter bit after the guitar solo, before the riff and verse come again.
Locomotive breath, on the other hand, needs the last verse after the
chorus.
[...]
> On the other hand, I like Budapest or Flying Dutchman and would not mind
> the songs lasting one or two minutes more. So I ask myself when is it right
> to extend a musical idea for a song (I am not talking of continuous pieces
> like Thick as a Brick, Passion Play etc.) for much more than 3 min?
> Well, Tull should try to take the time as often as they want to! It is
> so good to have compositions longer than these radio friendly 3-4 min.
Budapest and Flying Dutchman are a bit more complex as far as the
musical structure goes, so the length is OK. The others, for all their
brilliance (the `in the dark town folks lie sleeping' bit in HH and the
guitar solo in Aqualung are both right up there among my all time
favourite musical moments) are more verse chorus etc. (Isn't Stormwatch
probably the most underrated of all Tull albums. Listen to Dark Ages
and Ian's (!) great bass playing.)
> Anyway, we still have Nursie ...
Oh Nursie dear I'm glad you're he-e-e-e-ere
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Phillip Helbig email ........................ phe...@hs.uni-hamburg.de
Hamburger Sternwarte Tel. .................................. +49 40 7252 4110
Gojenbergsweg 112 Fax ................................... +49 40 7252 4198
D-21029 Hamburg http://www.hs.uni-hamburg.de/english/persons/helbig.html
I don't speak for the Hamburg Observatory; the Observatory doesn't
speak for me.
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 18:02:53 -0400
From: KYLE LAPOINTE <lapo...@caninet.com>
Subject: long songs
Someone wrote that some songs are to long. I would disagree because
I like long songs. If you don't like them thats your own oppinion it dosn't
mean their to long because I know a lot of people who do and don't like long
songs but thats just their personal oppinion they don't go saying there is
anything wrong with them. So it is pretty much a waste of time to say that
they are or they arn't to long because thats purely subjective.
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From: CSC CIS <kth...@watson.den.csci.csc.com>
Subject: RE: The St. Cleve Chronicle V7 #53
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 11:13:22 -0600
From: "Mr. Radio" <CMSA...@ruby.indstate.edu>
Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 8:48:53 EST
Subject: Re: The St. Cleve Chronicle V7 #45
Divinities is not nearly my favorite IA production (in fact, it's my
least).
I recently had my copy of Divinities returned to me after it had been
loaned out for four months. I can't stop listening to it now. There is
some truly excellent music on that disc.
From: Jose.D...@turner.com
Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 10:07:17 -0400
Subject: Another Anniversary
"The first modern farm machine was a seed drill, or planter, invented by
Englishman Jethro Tull about 1700."
Gosh, he must have been one talented guy to work in all that inventing
while pursuing a career as a rock musician.
When I was taking Botany in college in 1976, when the professor got to
talking about Jethro Tull, he emphasized that he was not talking about
Ian Anderson and his band. The truly interesting thing about Jethro
Tull the agronimist is that he came up with the idea of planting crops
in rows, and he invented the seed drill to make it possible to do
that. Prior to that, farmers would simply scatter their seeds by hand.
Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 10:21:25 -0400
From: "'D. A. Scocca'" <sco...@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>
cc: r_g...@acad.fandm.edu
Subject: Tull and Rock Opera...
As I understand it, _War Child_ was meant to be a musical, which is at
least a little different from a "rock opera" (if only in that a musical
would have been done on-stage at about the same time, rather than 20+
years later...)
Actually, Warchild was meant to be a movie, the album was created from
the intended movie sound track. The movie project fell through when the
money men and Ian disagreed on the content of the movie, which was to be
about what happens to you after you die, a subject that the money men
thought would not sell in a movie.
In 1978 there was a radio special for the tenth anniversary. In the
interview Ian discussed how War Child was meant to be a movie and they
played clips from the movie soundtrack that did not make it on to the
album, which included an orchestral version of the Warchild song that
sounded very much like the later released version of Warchild on A
Classic Case.
Date: 07 May 96 10:24:03 EDT
From: Mark Ruffing <76613...@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Tull Sighting (actually hearing)
and last weekend
(5/4-5/5) NBC sports had a rundown of the NBA playoff standings and
the backer was Martins solo and the Synth intro. from Steel Monkey.
In 1983 CBS used Fly by Night as the background music for player
introductions for their NBA coverage.
Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 20:33:35 +0100
From: John Partridge <CS1...@ccug.wlv.ac.uk>
p.s: You may also be interested that one of his other choices was an
album by the Ramones!. Indeed he further recalled an amusing story
whereby Joey Ramone actually asked I.A for his autograph backstage at
a gig in Switzerland. The said autograph actually being intended for
Joey Ramones mum!
Ian has mentioned the Ramones many times. The Ramones return the favor
in a sidelong sort of way in the movie Rock and Roll High School.
Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 11:55:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: "David R. Bayer" <bad3...@frank.mtsu.edu>
Subject: Tull in the New York Times
Forgive me for staying seated, he
was saying, old man that I am now. So he started into the song,
"Locomotive Breath," softly as always. And when the power chord was
struck, at the precise moment he would have leapt to his feet...he did
just that, naturally, and gave the thing a good, swift kick, sending it
clear across the stage.
How did this reviewer confuse My God as Locomotive Breath?
Subject: LITP CD single (#1) available
Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 12:55:41 -0700
From: Jeff Hemmerling <je...@adams.rutgers.edu>
a copy of the
two CD single "Living in the (slightly more recent) Past".
[This a part 1 of a two part UK CDsingle. They tend to come that way
in England when it's in two parts. Part 1 should include:
``Living In The (Slightly More Recent) Past'' (live)
``Silver River Turning''
``Rosa On The Factory Floor''
``I Don't Want To Be Me''
-ds]
I have this 2 CD set, which I bought before Nightcap was released. There
is nothing on it that you can't get elsewhere... specifically Nightcap,
A Little Light Music or 25th Ann. set. By the way, we frequently see
people writing in and asking what certain oddities of memorabilia might
be worth. In any collectors maket any item is only worth what some other
collector is willing to pay. I own an exceptionally rare Spiderman comic
book which is virtually worthless, because it was not a part of the
series and nobody wants it. I once heard that an unopened original
release of Aqualung was worth several hundred dollars. This is because
there seems to be more than one person out there willing to spend the
money for it, and these people are not Tull collectors but vinyl
collectors. The point is that if you want to know what any memoribilia
is worth the only sure way to find out is to offer it for sale and see
what anyone is willing to pay for it. Otherwise I'm sure the SCC
readership doesn't really know what such memoribilia is worth.
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