4.6
Tom
Didn't see anyone mention this so:
ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.6/english/unix/unsupported/bsdi21/complete_install/
Looks like mostly a bugfix.
Anyone hear if they plan to start building on newer OS revisions anytime
soon?
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release:
> Anyone hear if they plan to start building on newer OS revisions anytime
> soon?
Yes, when 5.x comes out. Currently, the build support for BSD/OS 4.0.1
(but not 3.x) is in their hands, but Netscape has no incentive to produce
that build. And why should they? There is no noticable gain to be had,
seeing that the entire thing is one big statically linked executable. I'm
not aware of a single bug in the version for BSDI 2.1 that would be fixed
by rebuilding on 4.0. And they would still need to produce the 2.1 version
for the BSD/OS 2.x and 3.x customers. So, basically, the build environment
for their 4.x line is on ice.
The landscape really changes when Mozilla 5.0 comes out. It will quite
likely require BSD/OS 4.0.1 because of ELF and pthreads.
Incidentally, if you're a software developer yourself, you'll want to
become involved in the Mozilla project, if for no better reason than to be
able to use the excellent CVS source tree management tools Bonsai and
LXR in house (warning: installation is not for the faint of heart :-)
Visit http://www.mozilla.org/bonsai.html to see Bonsai in action.
If people are interested, I can put up a current Mozilla pre-alpha binary
for BSD/OS 4.0.1 up for FTP, if someone has a server somewhere with some
space and a decent net connection. It is pretty rough still (e.g., the
number of redraws the GTK tookit does is *staggering*, and the preferences
dialog is extremely incomplete as of yet). On the other hand, the
compliance to W3C standards puts almost every other browser to shame.
And lets not forget that Netscape seems to be the only one around that
cares for platforms other than the Big Three: Windows, Linux and Solaris
2.5/2.6.
Cheers,
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Bruce Momjian
> Didn't see anyone mention this so:
>
> ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.6/english/unix/unsupported/bsdi21/complete_install/
>
> Looks like mostly a bugfix.
>
> soon?
I appreciate that they are fixing these bugs. The 4.x versions have
been buggy/disappointing until 4.5. Also, 4.6 feels MUCH faster than
4.51. Things display much faster.
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Tom
On Sun, 16 May 1999 16:11:16 +0200, Bert Driehuis writes:
>seeing that the entire thing is one big statically linked executable. I'm
>not aware of a single bug in the version for BSDI 2.1 that would be fixed
>by rebuilding on 4.0. And they would still need to produce the 2.1 version
>for the BSD/OS 2.x and 3.x customers. So, basically, the build environment
>for their 4.x line is on ice.
Wasn't looking for bugfixes, but a lot has changed since 2.1 was new.
Perhaps building on a newer rev would allow for inclusion of some
of the features missing in netscape for bsdi. This is just a wild hair.
>Incidentally, if you're a software developer yourself, you'll want to
>become involved in the Mozilla project, if for no better reason than to be
>able to use the excellent CVS source tree management tools Bonsai and
>LXR in house (warning: installation is not for the faint of heart :-)
>Visit http://www.mozilla.org/bonsai.html to see Bonsai in action.
Built it, tried it. I don't have enough CPU to keep up with the CVS tree,
let alone the free time to contribute these days.
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>I appreciate that they are fixing these bugs. The 4.x versions have
>been buggy/disappointing until 4.5. Also, 4.6 feels MUCH faster than
>4.51. Things display much faster.
It's nice to feel that not everyone is passing BSDi by every once in a while.
Bert Driehuis
for a binary distribution of yesterdays build of Mozilla. You can find it
at
ftp://ftp.kciLink.com/pub/mozilla-pre50.tgz
It requires BSD/OS 4.0.1 to run.
Before getting your hopes up high: please note that the code is untested,
pre-alpha quality, yadda yadda yadda. There is a whole bunch of brokenness
in there that I know about. The brokenness generally is comparable to the
Linux version of the day.
To use it, unpack it in /usr/local (it'll create mozilla-pre50), and
setenv MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME /usr/local/mozilla-pre50/bin
To run,
cd $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME
./apprunner
rm apprunner.core
./apprunner
I may or may not update it. Please discard your copy in about a month:
progress is rapid, and it is a snapshot just to show where it's at now.
Known caveats:
- The performance is being worked on by Top Men.
- There are numerous stability problems, the necessity to run apprunner
once to populate ~/.mozilla/registry; see it crash and restart it is
just one of them.
- The preferences dialog is not done yet, so you'll have to manually hack
~/.mozilla/prefs50.js to suit.
- It's full of bugs, and small bugs may hide the big ones or vice versa.
The long and short of it is: it's a developer snapshot. That said, the W3C
standards compliance is very good, and the clunkiness of the user
interface hides an excellent underlying design.
The website is at, you guessed it, http://www.mozilla.org. The newsgroups
are at news://news.mozilla.org in the netscape.public.mozilla.* hierarchy.
Do I need to remind anyone to really read up on the messages in these
newsgroups before posting to the newsgroups? When in doubt, drop me a note
rather than adding to the noise level, please.
Enjoy,
-- Bert
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