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David Yeh

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Mar 23, 2012, 5:31:34 AM3/23/12
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we think 459 and 569 first to dispose, and watch 2628 support on long term trend line

Henry Chan

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Mar 26, 2012, 9:28:37 PM3/26/12
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2628 annual result announced:

《藍籌業績》國壽<02628.HK>全年少賺45% 末期息23分人民幣
2012-03-27 07:10:28
中國人壽<02628.HK>公布2011年度,收入3709億人民幣(下同),按年微降3.9%。受投資收益下降及資產減值損失增加影響, 錄得純利倒退45.5%至183.31億元,每股盈利65分。末期息23分。

全年實現淨保費收入3182.76億元,微升0.1%,市場份額33.3%。新業務價值202億元,增長1.8%。

年內投資收益607億元,增長24%。由於投資組合息類收入大幅增長,淨投資收益率4.28%;但受內地資本市場低迷影響,考慮股權型投資減值等因素後,總投資收益率為3.51%。同期可供出售股權型投資減值增至129.24億元。

2011年止,公司總資產1.58萬億元,增長12.3%;內含價值2928.5億元,下降1.8%;償付能力充足率降至170.12%。(de/d)



David Yeh於 2012年3月23日星期五UTC+8下午5時31分34秒寫道:

Tommy Chen

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Mar 26, 2012, 9:32:47 PM3/26/12
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What is the price to embedded value ratio now?

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Henry Chan

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Mar 26, 2012, 10:07:14 PM3/26/12
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embedded value 292.8b (RMB)
outstanding share 7,441,175,000
EV per share = 39.36 RMB = 45.26 HKD
P/EV = 20.8/45.26 = 0.46
Tommy於 2012年3月27日星期二UTC+8上午9時32分47秒寫道:

David Yeh Jr.

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Mar 26, 2012, 10:09:05 PM3/26/12
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you mean 2.1 -2.2?

2012/3/27 Henry Chan <ban...@gmail.com>



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Henry Chan

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Mar 26, 2012, 10:24:52 PM3/26/12
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Sorry cap the wrong outstanding shares.

From BoA Merrill Lynch
Current P/EV now is 1.62
with forward below 1.5

David Yeh於 2012年3月23日星期五UTC+8下午5時31分34秒寫道:

David Yeh

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Apr 2, 2012, 9:35:45 PM4/2/12
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3918  largest shareholder reduced 10% can you check where these 10% goes to?

Henry Chan

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Apr 2, 2012, 11:25:58 PM4/2/12
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Not yet known

180 days lock up period
price = 3.04
no. of shares = 214,000,000
10% of market caps
29/5 除淨
0.12 per share


David Yeh於 2012年4月3日星期二UTC+8上午9時35分45秒寫道:

Henry Chan

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May 22, 2012, 12:59:33 PM5/22/12
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Any update on the portfolio, if we already reduce 459 and 569 or add anything, pls let me know and i will update our portfolio list.

Henry Chan於 2012年4月3日星期二UTC+8上午11時25分58秒寫道:

David Yeh Jr.

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May 22, 2012, 9:37:32 PM5/22/12
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has not completely dispose all, please remain for the time being.  We added DDD in our portfolio around 26.7  

we need to make some gains this year, otherwise we cant achieve our 25% return target

Henry Chan

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May 22, 2012, 9:49:55 PM5/22/12
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Great
Pls update me
Stock name/No. Of shares brought/sell and at what price
further discuss the expected return and bottom support

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Henry Chan

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May 25, 2012, 10:11:18 AM5/25/12
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Updated portfolio list and their shares allocation.

Pls help to see any errors. I have updated the cutloss price also.

Regards,

Henry

Henry Chan於 2012年5月23日星期三UTC+8上午9時49分55秒寫道:

Henry Chan

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Aug 14, 2012, 5:23:19 AM8/14/12
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Google docs fail to show the update on HK listed stocks, I just screen cap the one in google finance

YTD performance


now 45.06 million total mkt caps 
3 million to go


Henry

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Tommy Chen

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Aug 14, 2012, 6:30:24 AM8/14/12
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Great to hear!
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Henry Chan

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Nov 2, 2012, 10:01:21 PM11/2/12
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YTD performance, FYI


Henry Chan

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Nov 6, 2012, 8:07:56 PM11/6/12
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《公司業績》羅欣藥業(08058.HK)第三季純利1.2億人民幣 增24%
2012-11-06 23:25:11
羅欣藥業(08058.HK)公布9月止第三季度,營業額6.1億人民幣(下同),按年上升56%。錄得純利增長23.6%至1.19億元,每股盈利19.57分。不派息。(de/d)


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Henry Chan

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Jan 10, 2013, 12:05:52 AM1/10/13
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Dear elite partners,

To better tracking our portfolio members, I would like to start the daily NAV check up for potential change of the portfolio. I would like to clarify the total NAV of our portfolio marked to market.

Here are the name and no. of shares in our portfolio.
Please let me know if there is inconsistency compared with the actual value

1. China Life insurance, 2628, 574K shares,
2. Nagacorp Ltd., 3918, 2.6 million shares,
3. Shandong Luoxin, 8058, 1.66 million shares,
4. Midland IC&I Ltd., 459, 15 million shares,
5. China Automation Group, 569, 1.4 million shares, 
And Cash, HKD 5 million

We have no leverage employing currently. Thanks for reviewing.

Regards,
Henry

Chan Henry

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Jan 10, 2013, 12:17:18 AM1/10/13
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6. 3D systems Corp., DDD, 20,000 shares

Henry Chan

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Facebook grows ahead of big spending year

Zuckerberg says focus on investment, not big profits, in 2013

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By Benjamin Pimentel, MarketWatch

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — Facebook Inc. reported gains in adjusted earnings and revenues on Wednesday that beat Wall Street’s expectations, again pointing to solid traction in its mobile-advertising business.


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Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg says the social network plans to invest in new hires in 2013 to build up new products.

But the social network’s shares slipped more than 4% in after-hours trades. One analyst said some investors were expecting a “blowout” report that didn’t materialize, while the company itself broadcast plans to spend heavily in the coming year on recruiting talent to build up its business.

Facebook FB +1.46%  closed the regular session up 1.5% at $31.24. The stock has surged more than 60% since its last earnings report.

“I’m surprised the stock is off at all,” Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter told MarketWatch. “Every metric, except maybe spending, looks good.”

The company reported a fourth-quarter profit of $64 million, 3 cents share, compared with a profit of $205 million or 14 cents a share for the year-earlier period. Revenue rose to $1.59 billion from $1.13 billion. Adjusted profit was 17 cents a share.

Analysts polled by FactSet on average saw the Menlo Park, Calif.-based company reporting a profit of 15 cents a share on revenue of $1.51 billion.

Facebook said its mobile revenue now makes up 23% of advertising revenue, topping last quarter’s share of 14%. Some analysts were expecting a higher share for mobile revenues. Topeka Capital’s Victor Anthony projected 24%, while Aaron Kessler at Raymond James said he was looking for mobile revenue to be up to 26%.

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Anthony told MarketWatch that the company’s results did not match the more elevated expectations. “Not a blowout that some were expecting, but a good solid beat versus expectations,” he said.

Robert W. Baird analyst Colin Sebastian also speculated that the market reaction may have been “sell on the news, following all of the analyst upgrades lately.”

He also said the “top line might have been a little shy of whisper numbers. But on a fundamental level, it was a solid quarter — revenue growth accelerated.”

Whisper expectations were also a factor, with some investors projecting earnings of 17 cents of share, which was in line with what Facebook reported. The official consensus Wall Street number was at 15 cents a share.

Cantor Fitzgerald analyst Youssef Squali also called Facebook’s results “solid” and said they “slightly exceeded consensus expectations on virtually every metric.”

In the company’s conference call, CEO Mark Zuckerberg declared, “There’s no argument — Facebook is a mobile company.” The company said its mobile active users exceeded its desktop daily users for the first time in the fourth quarter of 2012, highlighting its momentum in that arena.

Facebook results boosted by strong ad sales

Facebook reports better-than-expected fourth quarter earnings with revenue boosted from stronger mobile ad sales. But higher costs drag down the social network's profit. MarketWatch's Dan Gallagher and Ben Pimentel report.

Facebook said it had a total of 1.1 billion monthly active users, up 25% year-over-year.

The company said it expects expenses to grow about 50% in 2013 as it focuses on building its business. Zuckerberg said the company is focused on building products, such as its newly-introduced “graph search.”

“Based on this, we made a decision to continue to grow head count quickly in 2013,” Zuckerberg said. “This will likely cause expenses to grow at faster rate than we expect to grow revenue this year, which means we aren’t operating to maximize our profit this year, but we’re doing what we think will build the best service and business over the long term. ”

He also said, “There’s lots of areas we need to invest them. We need to build the best mobile experiences build our platforms and build a really strong monetization engine.” 


Facebook Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2012 Results

January 30, 2013

MENLO PARK, Calif.Jan. 30, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Facebook, Inc. (NASDAQ: FB) today reported financial results for the fourth quarter and full year ended December 31, 2012.

"In 2012, we connected over a billion people and became a mobile company," said Mark ZuckerbergFacebook founder and CEO. "We enter 2013 with good momentum and will continue to invest to achieve our mission and become a stronger, more valuable company."

Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2012 Financial Summary

In millions, except percentages and per share amounts

Q4'11


Q4'12


FY'11


FY'12









Revenue

$    1,131


$    1,585


$    3,711


$    5,089

Income from Operations








   GAAP

$       548


$       523


$    1,756


$       538

   Non-GAAP

$       624


$       736


$    1,980


$    2,261

Operating Margin








   GAAP

48%


33%


47%


11%

   Non-GAAP

55%


46%


53%


44%

Net Income








    GAAP 

$       302


$         64


$    1,000


$         53

    Non-GAAP

$       360


$       426


$    1,164


$    1,317

Diluted Earnings per Share (EPS)








    GAAP 

$      0.14


$      0.03


$      0.46


$      0.01

    Non-GAAP

$      0.15


$      0.17


$      0.50


$      0.53

Fourth Quarter 2012 Operational Highlights

  • Monthly active users (MAUs) were 1.06 billion as of December 31, 2012, an increase of 25% year-over-year
  • Daily active users (DAUs) were 618 million on average for December 2012, an increase of 28% year-over-year
  • Mobile MAUs were 680 million as of December 31, 2012, an increase of 57% year-over-year
  • Mobile DAUs exceeded web DAUs for the first time in the fourth quarter of 2012

Recent Business Highlights

  • Mobile revenue represented approximately 23% of advertising revenue for the fourth quarter of 2012, up from approximately 14% of advertising revenue in the third quarter of 2012
  • Facebook launched Graph Search Beta, a structured search tool that enables users for the first time to find people, places, photos and other content that has been shared on Facebook
  • Launched Facebook for Android 2.0, completely rebuilt to deliver improved stability and faster performance and opened Facebook Messenger to anyone with a telephone number

Fourth Quarter 2012 Financial Highlights

Revenue — Revenue for the fourth quarter totaled $1.585 billion, an increase of 40%, compared with $1.13 billion in the fourth quarter of 2011. 

  • Revenue from advertising was $1.33 billion, representing 84% of total revenue and a 41% increase from the same quarter last year. Excluding the impact of year-over-year changes in foreign exchange rates, advertising revenue would have increased by 43%.
  • Payments and other fees revenue for the fourth quarter was $256 million.  As planned, in the fourth quarter of 2012 the company recognized revenue from four months of Payments transactions for accounting reasons detailed in our Form 10-Q filed on October 24, 2012.  Adjusting for the $66 million of revenue in the extra month of December, Payments and other fees revenue would have been essentially flat year-over-year.

Costs and expenses — Fourth quarter costs and expenses were $1.06 billion, an increase of 82% from the fourth quarter of 2011. Excluding share-based compensation and related payroll tax expenses, non-GAAP costs and expenses were $849 million, an increase of 67%.

Income from operations — For the fourth quarter, GAAP income from operations was $523 million, compared to income from operations of $548 million for the fourth quarter of 2011. Excluding share-based compensation and related payroll tax expenses, non-GAAP income from operations for the fourth quarter was $736 million, compared to $624 million for the fourth quarter of 2011.

Operating margin — GAAP operating margin was 33% for the fourth quarter, compared to 48% for the fourth quarter of 2011. Excluding share-based compensation and related payroll tax expenses, non-GAAP operating margin was 46% for the fourth quarter, compared to 55% for the fourth quarter of 2011.

Income tax provision — The GAAP income tax provision for the fourth quarter was $441 million, representing an 87% effective tax rate. Excluding share-based compensation expense and related payroll tax expenses, the non-GAAP effective tax rate would have been approximately 41%.

Net income — GAAP net income for the fourth quarter was $64 million, compared to net income of $302 million for the fourth quarter of 2011. GAAP EPS for the fourth quarter was $0.03, compared to $0.14 for the same quarter in the prior year. Excluding share-based compensation and related payroll tax expenses, and income tax adjustments, non-GAAP net income for the fourth quarter was $426 million, or $0.17 per share, compared to $360 million and $0.15 per share for the same quarter in the prior year.

Capital expenditures — Purchases of property and equipment for the fourth quarter were $198 million. Additionally, $89 million of equipment was procured or financed through capital leases during the fourth quarter of 2012.

Cash and marketable securities — As of December 31, 2012, cash and marketable securities were $9.63 billion

Webcast and Conference Call Information

Facebook will host a conference call to discuss the results at 2 p.m. PT / 5 p.m. ET today. The live webcast can be accessed at the Facebook Investor Relations website at investor.fb.com, along with the company's earnings press release, financial tables and slide presentation. Facebook intends to use the investor.fb.com website as a means of disclosing material non-public information and for complying with its disclosure obligations under Regulation FD.

Following the call, a replay will be available at the same website. A telephonic replay will be available for one week following the conference call at +1 (404) 537-3406 or + 1 (855) 859-2056, conference ID 85750523.

About Facebook

Founded in 2004, Facebook's mission is to make the world more open and connected. People use Facebook to stay connected with friends and family, to discover what's going on in the world, and to share and express what matters to them.

Henry Chan

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Early Jan update on 8058 and its main board arrangement, should be backed by some hedge fund and mutual fund...see how it goes...
 
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110号,受国泰君安之邀,我赴香港参加了由刘汉基先生主讲的8058罗欣药业的投资见面会,与会的朋友包括外资机构、国内私募基金以及我这样的业余小散,由于多数都是网上和我有过交流但初次会面的“熟人”,所以我就不点名暴露他们的身份了,呵呵。

会议方式以刘汉基先生演讲为主,投资者穿插提问为辅,由于刘先生经常夹带英文,我英文一窍不通,所以有些地方我的记录可能有误,请大家帮忙指正。另外,昨天我还致电刘,补充提了一些问题,聊了近一小时,刘很热情,在此一并感谢。下边,我以问答的形式,将两次交流的主要内容列示如下:

一、分类产品的收入和利润的结构比例如何?

答:截止2012年中报,抗生素占比由上期的50%下降到45%;消化和呼吸系统专科药由25%上升到45%;抗病毒药由20%下降到5%;其它5%

2012年上半年,总收入为10亿元,其中销售金额排第一位是的抗生素(我对药完全不了解,没记住药名),金额是9000多万元,占收入比例约为10%,毛利率约为75%;排第二、第三名的都是消化系统用药,合计为1亿多一点,毛利率85%。前10名合计占到销售收入的30%多。

(会后,我们要求刘给单品种销售数据,刘不肯,说最多给前5名。他说曾有同事给过研究员详细数据,结果研究员将整份文档发给了客户,最后传到00460四环药业的管理人员手中。)

二、新药的研发和可行性分析是怎么做的?

答:公司早年只有2个研发人员,现在研发部有80多人,公司与沈阳医科大学合作良好。近几年发明专利急剧增长,目前已经有49个发明专利,尚有30个在申请中。有45个药品处于临床阶段,有近40个在临床前的准备阶段。未来几年,每年将有8-10个新药生产。

公司以前都是主动找欧美制药厂买专利即将到期的药品做首仿,现在是对方主动找公司的比较多,如果是老病新药,购买成本不高。公司的规划是研发费用要占到收入的7%,但实际远没到这个比例,一个重要的原因是收入超预期增长。

销售和市场调研一直是公司的强项,通过收集信息了解到未来一段时间的药品需求,在正式投产新药前,公司一般已经先拿到了半年到一年的订单量。一般来说,抗生素的投资回收期设定为2年,专科药5-6年。一旦毛利率下降到30%,公司将不再生产,新药的毛利率平均在80%以上。

公司走的是高周转的模式,批次更新转换速度快,产品贴近市场需要,生产成本现场控制好,执行力强。公司以销售需求来定生产,所以品类较多收入分散,没有重磅药,同时也没有广告方面的费用支出。推广的费用主要在销售给经销商的收入里有给回扣,这些收入开票价格有提高,毛利率高,同时销售费用也大幅增长,回扣时间差大约为半年左右,比率是6%左右。

三、目前的客户结构如何?

答:医院直接销售占33%(主要在山东),分销商25%,第三终端17%OTC10%,其它15%。产品的最终销售,大概65%以上在三级医院。除山东外,北京、安徽等省销售较多(我记不太清楚了),四川增长较快。

四、恒欣和裕欣两个新厂的投产进度如何?为什么裕欣进度明显滞后,GMP认证进展情况如何?

答:恒欣的原料药已经点火生产,产品主要是自用。裕欣的大输液仍以试产为主,在生产水针,裕欣投产延期的原因是目前没有接到大订单,国版的GMP是符合的,只是欧盟的还在认证当中。裕欣厂今年会分期投产,预计明年可以全面达产,公司的规划是要到达90%的产能利用率。未来以消化和呼吸系统专科药为主,以三四代抗生素为辅。

五、医药新政策对公司的影响如何?

答:发改委每年都有两次调价,但实际对公司影响很小。降价针对的是终端,中间商会有间接压力传导给公司,公司可能会降价三五个百分点以刺激销量,因为公司的毛利率高,所以没多大影响,还曾有过涨价的事例。至于医院药品加成取消和药品招标方面,实际操作时有较大的运作空间。

六、第三终端的建设进度如何?前期费用是否将为今年的收入、利润带来贡献?

答:目前整个销售团队约有900人,遍布全国,这两年的销售团队建设现已为公司带来正收益。

七、转主板进度怎样了?

答:证监会去年底有颁布一个《关于股份有限公司境外发行股票和上市申报文件及审核程序的监管指引》的45号文件,其中第七点:境外上市公司在同一境外交易所转板上市的,应在完成转板上市后15个工作日内,就转板上市的有关情况向中国证监会提交书面报告。45号文自201311日起施行。

也即是说,8058由创业板转主板,已经不再需要向中国证券会先申请了,上市公司自己弄好后,报告就可以了。目前相关表格文件已经交给联交所,如无意外,上半年就可以完成转板工作。

但内资股全流通的事,现在还没有具体的文件指引。

八、去年基层员工加薪后反响很好,但新入职大学生流失仍较为严重,是否底层晋升通道不畅?待遇不够?中高层薪酬似科也不高,为什么没有考虑股权激励之类的措施?

答:底层员工加薪不止一次,待遇算不错了。不进行股权激励,是因为H股如果搞股权激励,就触发股本增加,必须取得证监会批准,民企的审批很难,所以只能放弃。

九、三季度账上有11.26亿的现金,占到总资产的6成左右,没有付息负债,现金流超级强。中报有4.5亿的理财产品,三季末还剩2亿,以前的利息收入过低,有小股东担心资金被挪用,为什么公司不做一些协定存款或定期存单?又不愿意加大分红的比例呢?

答:公司未来3年计划有9亿的资本支出,主要是两新厂的后期建设支出,以及研究开发费用。小股东觉得公司现在钱多,好像没地方花,但公司管理层并不这样认为,因为有些项目如果要做的话,这11亿的现金根本就不够用。

公司以前不买理财产品,一是刘老板非常保守,二是买理财要做评估才能符合香港的会计准则,做一次得120万,不划算。(我不清楚香港的会计准则是否这样规定,我追问为什么不做点定期之类,没有得到正面回答。所以我个人仍然怀疑这些钱,存在被挪用或利用的可能。三季度利息收入大增了,估计是2.5亿的理财产品到期的收益,看看四季度的情况如何。)

也有小股东问公司为什么没有收购事项,其实公司每年都有收到100个以上的收购研究方案,也有实地调研查看,但要找到很合适的方案其实是很难的,实业整合的风险很大,专利评估的标准难定,草率收购会损害所有股东的利益。

十、费县第二人民医院4000万投资的意图是什么?

答:公司的收入中有三分之一来自医院,其中半数是临沂当地的医院,比如临沂市人民医院一年用药就有6亿多(记不太清数字了),公司对医院做一些战略投资是可以共赢的。

十一、今年的分红计划是怎样的?能持续去年的比例吗?招股书曾有承诺按30%的比例分红。

答:还需股东协商,目前尚无定论,招股书上的承诺记不得了,没印象!

十二、未来两年的收入的利润增长速度预计有多少?

答:收入增长可以达到30%-40%,利润10-15%,由于销售费用增长很快,所以利润增速会放缓。

我追问:公司的规划到12五末,利润要达到10亿,收入达到50亿,以利润10-15%的速度是达不到的。另外,恒欣和裕欣两个新厂投产,难道没有一点效益贡献?产能基本要闲置

董秘答他预测时一向保守,低估50%也是可能的。

十三、去年5月大股东罗欣集团收购刘振海、刘振东各5.74%的股权,9月份再收购李学良和王健500万股内资股,大股东是想把内资股全部收购吗?公司会考虑向大股东收购资产吗?包括大股东控制的明欣和罗盛之类的公司?

答:大股东想收购全部内资股不容易,因为根据证券条例,大股东每12个月内增持的股份不得超过2%,否则需要发出要约收购公告。

这个地方我有疑问,中国大陆的《上市公司收购管理办法》第六十三条规定,持股30-50%的股东收购股份,一年不超过2%的可以豁免;持股超过50%的,只要不影响上市地位,也可以豁免。香港的《公司收购、合并及股份回购守则》规定持股30%以上50%以下的,一年内增持2%以上的触发强制要约,必须向其他股东提出全面要约。8058的大股东先后两次收购其他股东的股权,持股从41.12%先增到52.6%,再增到53.42%,都没有进行公告,我不确定这两次收购,特别前一次收购刘振海和刘振东的股权,是否可列为一致行动人之类的特例而能豁免。刘振海和刘振东是刘保起的侄儿,并不属于妻儿父母兄妹性质的近亲,刘振海是公司董事,但刘振东并不是董事,这个问题需要专业人士的解答。

公司与大股东及大股东控制的明欣、罗盛之间的大额关联交易,不存在利益输送问题,价格公道,甚至还可能高于市场价格,每年都有向联交所上报详细的证明材料。大股东注入资产的可能性是有的。

十四、大股东除控股8058外,还有哪些产业?8058是大股东最大的产业吗?大股东和刘老板个人有房地产业务吗?

答:大股东有化学药、中药、医疗设备、保健及健美产品等销售业务,但详细的业务不方便透露,也不是太清楚。几年前曾问过刘老板,罗欣集团的利润大概是80585倍左右,当然那时8058的利润规模要小一些。不能确定8058是否为大股东的最大产业,大股东没有房地产业务,但刘老板私人有一点房产投资,应该不是太大规模,曾建议他不要投资房地产。

十五、流通股里东洋证券的席位,是日本的机构投资者吗?

答:曾经要求东洋证券列示过清单,基本都是零散的个人投资者。这些日本人的持仓多年不动,很多成本不到1元。(这么说,邱永汉本人似乎并没有大量持有8058

十六、公司在05年上市时,净融资金额仅3000多万,之后一直没有能成功增发,而现在规模已经翻了几十倍,手上现金又多达11亿多,现金流超级强劲,那大股东是否觉得不划算?有没有考虑私有化?

答:公司很重视上市这个平台的,以前融资小,但企业规模也小。这两年,在与大股东的交流中,已经多次传导上市的一些理念,大股东已经没有不划算这一想法了。大股东没有考虑要私有化,如果现在私有化,那不是也不划算?(真私有化,我估计大股东也下不了这个狠心,再说价格不适合,也通不过表决)

Henry Chan

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ExOne 3D Printer IPO Prices At High End; Debut Thu.

By Brian DeagonInvestor's Business Daily

 Posted 07:17 PM ET

Update: ExOne priced its initial public offering late Wednesday at $18 a share. Earlier in the day, the 3D printing firm raised the terms of its upcoming IPO to 5.3 million shares at $16-$18 a share. ExOne should begin trading Thursday.

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ExOne, a provider of 3D printers, could begin trading on Thursday if the launch of its initial public offering goes as expected.

The company plans to raise about $75 million by offering 5 million shares at $14 to $16 a share. It will trade on the Nasdaq under the symbol XONE. Reports suggest interest among investors is strong. The lead underwriter is FBR Capital Markets.

"We expect ExOne to be greeted with much investor fanfare but believe the shares look a bit expensive," Daniel Holland, an analyst with research firm Morningstar, wrote in a research report Wednesday. "ExOne's market opportunity is significant, but we advise investors to not overlook likely growing pains."

Competitors in the field include 3D Systems (DDD), Stratasys (SSYS) and Proto Labs (PRLB). 3D Systems and Stratasys have been among the very-best-performing stocks for months. Both, though, slipped a bit in late January, in part because of the pending IPO of rival ExOne, as IBD has reported.

For the nine months ended Sept. 30, 2012, ExOne reported a loss of $10 million, compared with a loss of $3 million in the year-earlier period. It reported revenue of $15.9 million in that span, up 27%.

ExOne, in its IPO prospectus, is described as a global provider of 3D printing machines and products to industrial customers. It has service centers in the U.S., Germany and Japan.

3D printers, in general, make parts through a printing process. Using 3D software designs, the printers use powdered materials or chemical agents to print products by repeatedly depositing thin layers of materials that are bonded together, layer by layer, to create the desired part. The types of objects created can range from parts for supersonic jets to toy figurines.

It's a hot field. Shares of 3D Systems have tripled the past 52 weeks, and Stratasys has doubled. Proto Labs, which launched its IPO on Feb. 24, 2012, is up 156% since then.

Holland, in his Morningstar report, said that while 3D Systems and Stratasys provide a wide range of printers, "ExOne enters as a pure play in industrial-use metal applications." Its machines can create production-grade castings out of steel, bronze, glass and aluminum.

Holland says ExOne's focus on the industrial market might provide a competitive edge in that niche. The systems range in price from about $500,000 to $1.4 million.

To be sure, ExOne is young.

"We were a bit surprised to see the rather low volume that ExOne has shipped to date, with only 13 units sold in 2012 and four in 2011," Holland wrote. "While the opportunity is great, so is the risk that the company is taking on too much too soon."

ExOne said it sold eight units in the fourth quarter, up from five in the prior nine months.

"We believe the significant increase in machine unit shipments for the three-month period ended Dec. 31 is a strong indicator of the increased acceptance of our 3D printing technology in the marketplace," according to ExOne's prospectus.

The company is based in North Huntingdon, Pa.

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Another 3D printing company to be listed in Thursday, IPO top end price, see if it will further boost the DDD performance.



Henry Chan

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《公司業績》金界(03918.HK)純利增至1.1億美元 末期息18.06港仙
2013-02-07 06:56:50
金界控股(03918.HK)公布2012年止年度,收入2.79億美元,按年增加25%。毛利率維持約73%。錄得純利增長23%至1.13億美元,每股盈利5.43美仙。末期息18.06港仙,全年共派息29.84港仙,派息率71%。(de/d)


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Good results indeed. So PE now only 14X
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雅虎與谷歌達成廣告協議
2013-02-07 14:49:23
雅虎公布,與谷歌簽訂協議,讓谷歌在其網站及一些聯名網站上顯示廣告,成為雅虎的廣告網絡合作伙伴之一。

這意味雙方的關係將與谷歌和其他網絡內容發布商相似:這些內容發布商都會將一些尚未出售的廣告位提供給谷歌,由谷歌代表廣告主在上面投放廣告。

去年,谷歌和雅虎談判多時,冀就廣告業務展開更多合作。不過,雅虎及谷歌雙方均未有派代表對此事作出回應。(ka/t)


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any thoughts on the consequence on FB? or internet areas?

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Yes, 2012 full year dividend rate near 5%, 
2013 forward PE 11.4


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A update of news in 3D printing:

德国发布最高速微型纳米3D打印机 8股将受益

利好精选腾讯财经[微博]2013-02-27 09:51
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德国公司Nanoscribe GmbH近日在美国旧金山某展会上,发布了一款迄今为止最高速的纳米级别微型3D打印机——Photonic Professional GT。这台微型3D打印机是应用到了全新的激光印刷术:首先通过CCD传感器对通过曝光、扫描产生的原稿的光学模拟图像信号进行光电转换,然后将经过数字技术处理的图像数码信号输入到激光调制器,调制后的激光束对被充电的感光鼓进行扫描,在感光鼓上形成静电潜像,图像处理装置对诸如图像模式、放大、图像重迭等作数码处理后,再经过显影、转印、定影等步骤,完成整个印刷过程。

同时,这款打印机还采用了基于双光子聚合的3D打印技术,让激光瞬时通过脉冲调制聚合光敏材料,来制作出自我支撑的微型(和纳米)结构,以达到直接激光写入。此外,这款德国Nanoscribe的打印机可以以每秒超过5太位(terabits)的速度来打印聚合物波导(polymerwaveguides),堪称世界最高速,且它的精度可以在一根头发上打印出一个10个字母的公司名称。

东方证券认为,3D打印产业链贯穿原材料处理、设备制造以及打印应用与服务,将带动制造业万亿规模的巨大市场。建议重点关注国内从事3D产学研的上市公司,如、欧菲光长江润发中航重机海源机械宏昌电子银邦股份机器人苏大维格等。

长江润发:公司主推纳米印刷。公司与中科院化学研究所、北京中科纳新印刷技术签订框架协议,拟共同投资设立从事纳米印刷技术的合营公司,以替代目前印刷行业的激光照排机和晒版机技术,并逐步形成产业化,市场前景非常广阔。

欧菲光:纳米银将跻身中大尺寸触摸屏主流材料之列。 公司在纳米银薄膜式触摸屏产业化方向上率先布局 公司作为国内薄膜式触摸屏的产业霸主,与相关科研机构合作,及时掌握纳米银技术并率先驱动其在薄膜式触摸屏领域的产业化,赢得市场先机。

中航重机(600765):2011年12月,公司参与组建的中航激光公司完成工商注册登记,以对王华明教授及其团队多年研究的激光快速成形技术实施工程产业化。激光快速成形技术,是以钛合金等金属粉末为原料,通过激光熔化逐层沉积“生长制造”,直接由零件CAD模型一步完成高性能大型整体结构件的“近净成形”,与传统技术相比具有显著优势;该项目提出了零件晶粒形态、显微组织及内部缺陷控制新方法,使激光快速成形TA15钛合金飞机大型整体主承力结构件综合力学性能达到并超过钛合金锻件。本项目财务评价计算期为16年,项目投资利润率预计为359.5%。项目2012年投产,2012-2015各年预计营业收入为1.74亿元、2.32亿元、2.9亿元、5.8亿元,2020年预计营业收入为23亿元,2025年预计营业收入为40亿元。

海源机械(002529):公司公告,2012年12月24日已与清华大学老科技工作者协会、昆山永年先进制造技术有限公司签订了《建立“海源3D打印制造实验室”合作意向书》,由公司出资建立所需的3D打印工艺试验平台,开展复合材料、陶瓷、硅酸盐等材料3D打印制造工艺技术的研究。该股昨日盘中一度跌逾3%,尾盘快速拉升,截至收盘逆势上涨2.31%。

宏昌电子(603002):公司是国内领先的电子级环氧树脂制造商,液态环氧树脂通过激光使树脂硬化成形,是3D打印的主要材料。公司主营电子级环氧树脂的生产和销售,产品覆盖阻燃型、液态型、固态型、溶剂型和其他专用型五大类环氧树脂,是国内主要环氧树脂制造商之一。据市场资料分析,未来5年,我国环氧树脂需求量年复合增长率达到10%,2015年消费总量将达到130万吨左右,占到全球环氧树脂消费市场半数以上,“3D打印”带来的潜在商机巨大。

银邦股份(300337):布局3D打印应用领域。银邦股份主营铝钢复合材料,公司借助铝基多金属复合材料需求大幅增长广阔的前景,于2012年7月份刚登陆创业板。不过,公司并不满足现状,不仅积极开拓新产品的推广,更涉足3D打印应用领域。在公司看来,开拓该领域属于公司在新兴产业上的战略布局一步重要棋子。

机器人(300024):国内领先的金属3D打印设备提供商。近年来,机器人依托激光加工技术优势,拓展激光成套装备业务,公司已于2012年3季度成功研制出激光快速成型设备,俗称“3D打印机”,主要采用金属原料,应用于航空航天、船舶等高端装备制造领域。据公司有关人士透露,从推出首套金属3D打印机至今,公司已陆续接到新的订单。

苏大维格(300331):国内微纳光学制造龙头。公司在微纳光学产业上的领先更体现在设备制造商,目前微纳光学膜加工设备主要生产商为美国Anvik和德国海德堡,公司设备技术性能优势明显,比肩海外厂商。目前公司该项业务出货量不大,客户来源有中科院苏州纳米所和以色列。http://finance.qq.com/a/20130227/002674.htm

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