inferno secstored?

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Go Phone

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Sep 12, 2021, 11:19:32 AM9/12/21
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Hello,

Inferno's secstore needs a plan9 secstored, correct?

I cannot seem to find a secstored.b in inferno. Hence, want to check if such an implementation is needed or obsolete?

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da...@boddie.org.uk

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Sep 13, 2021, 7:25:53 AM9/13/21
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I grepped through the historical releases of Inferno and didn't find anything. The man page for secstore in the current release says this:

  "Secstore establishes a secure authenticated connection with a Plan 9 secstore service (or equivalent, such as Plan 9 from User Space), that can then be used to fetch and decrypt data files, such as the factotum file containing the initial keys for an instance of factotum(4)."

So I think you're correct in thinking that it needs a Plan 9 secstored.

David

Go Phone

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Sep 13, 2021, 9:56:46 AM9/13/21
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Hello David,


  "Secstore establishes a secure authenticated connection with a Plan 9 secstore service (or equivalent, such as Plan 9 from User Space), that can then be used to fetch and decrypt data files, such as the factotum file containing the initial keys for an instance of factotum(4)."

So I think you're correct in thinking that it needs a Plan 9 secstored.

 
Thanks for checking it out. We discussed this in #cat-v and it appears wise to obsolete secstore. It is probably the reason nobody bothered to write a secstored limbo implementation.

All it does is store a few factotum commands which any encrypt/decrypt algorithm should handle (imho). It does not make sense to me to store the key to secstore in encrypted format to read some more encrypted stuff.

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hiro

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Sep 13, 2021, 10:16:48 AM9/13/21
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> It does not make sense to me to store the key to secstore in encrypted format to read some more encrypted stuff.

exactly!

Charles Forsyth

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Sep 13, 2021, 11:12:35 AM9/13/21
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The patent that prevented a limbo secstored has expired.

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Sep 13, 2021, 11:15:55 AM9/13/21
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not sure if this is a joke, but if not, the patent doesn't make the
idea any better :P
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clasp126...@icebubble.org

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Sep 20, 2021, 1:06:02 AM9/20/21
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Go Phone <gopho...@gmail.com> writes:

> It does not make sense to me to store the key to secstore in encrypted
> format to read some more encrypted stuff.

...unless you feel like eventually changing your password w/o
re-encrypting your data, or you want to re-encrypt your data w/o having
to change your password. In such cases, a single level of cryptographic
indirection is helpful.
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