Fwd: Please help me Identify the plant.

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding for Id assistance please.

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From: Priyabrata Roy. <priyabra...@gmail.com>
Date: 12 August 2015 at 20:25
Subject: Please help me Identify the plant.
To: jmg...@gmail.com

Respected sir,

Can you please help me to identify the plant (pictures are attached). 

Some useful information:

1. After 15 years of study, only two species are found in entire 17,000 sq.kms of west Bengal and entire north east and east India. 

2. Even BSI, Howrah could not recognize the plant. 

3. After 12 years, in this year flower and fruit is found.

4. Flowering time: April to June.

5. Place where it is present: Bankura, West Bengal.

Your kind cooperation is highly appreciated.

Note: Confidentiality of this mail and the information should be maintained.  

Please find the attachments.

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Regards,

Priyabrata Roy.

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Basudha Biotechnology Laboratory for Conservation,

Kalikapur, Kolkata- 700099

Email: priyabrata.r...@outlook.com

Mobile: +(91)-9635016675

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[surajit koley]

First question - is it the same species as in another thread - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/1sVjY0Lh_Eo/Tyq4oa7RDgAJ?

If BSI can't help with the physical specimen it must be much more difficult to arrive at a probable ID merely by a couple of pictures.

I need to know (to start with the borage family as KEYed in by Prain and Haines) :-

• style character
• ovary character
• leaf size can be guessed with the attached picture showing ruler; but detail of flower size (tube & lobe); fruit size

Meanwhile, please check probability of Cordia macleodii Hook. f. & Thomson. Two herb. can be viewed at KEW, one from WB and the other from Maharashtra -

1. http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000998063
   
2. http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000998062
   

Thank you

Regards

surajit koley

a non-botanist member of

efloraofIndia google group

[surajit koley]

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From: Priyabrata Roy. <priyabra...@gmail.com>

Date: Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: Please help me Identify the plant.
To: surajit koley <surajitno...@gmail.com>

Dear Mr. Garg,

Thank you for your reply. I will first read & search some more literature, then I will reply to you.

Regards,

Priyabrata Roy.

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Research Fellow, 

Basudha Biotechnology Laboratory for Conservation,

Kalikapur, Kolkata- 700099

Email: priyabrata.r...@outlook.com

Mobile: +(91)-9635016675

Web: http://cintdis.org/

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

From another thread: This is a Boraginaceae member. Someone submitted a similar looking one in another site - http://www.researchgate.net/post/Can_anyone_identify_this_tree

Thank you Regards surajit koley

First question - is it the same species as in another thread - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/1sVjY0Lh_Eo/Tyq4oa7RDgAJ? If BSI can't help with the physical specimen it must be much more difficult to arrive at a probable ID merely by a couple of pictures. I need to know (to start with the borage family as KEYed in by Prain and Haines) :- style character ovary character leaf size can be guessed with the attached picture showing ruler; but detail of flower size (tube & lobe); fruit size Meanwhile, please check probability of Cordia macleodii Hook. f. & Thomson. Two herb. can be viewed at KEW, one from WB and the other from Maharashtra - http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000998063 http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000998062 Thank you Regards  surajit koley

Thank you for your reply. I will first read & search some more literature, then I will reply to you.  Regards, Priyabrata Roy.

efi page on Cordia macleodii

[Satish N. Pardeshi]

The plant in concern is Cordia for sure. to identify correctly to species level number of styles or number of bifurcated stigma is an important character. also ribbed fruiting calyx is also important. i feel C. wallichi can also be checked.

regards

 satish pardeshi

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EACH ONE.... PLANT ONE...

Satish Pardeshi
Plant Taxonomist  

Mumbai, Pune

[J.M. Garg]

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From: M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com>
Date: 19 August 2015 at 20:13
Subject: Re: Please help me Identify the plant.
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Wild guess !  Please check for Cordia monoica.

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:12 PM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

From another thread: This is a Boraginaceae member. Someone submitted a similar looking one in another site - http://www.researchgate.net/post/Can_anyone_identify_this_tree Thank you Regards surajit koley

First question - is it the same species as in another thread - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/1sVjY0Lh_Eo/Tyq4oa7RDgAJ? If BSI can't help with the physical specimen it must be much more difficult to arrive at a probable ID merely by a couple of pictures. I need to know (to start with the borage family as KEYed in by Prain and Haines) :- style character ovary character leaf size can be guessed with the attached picture showing ruler; but detail of flower size (tube & lobe); fruit size Meanwhile, please check probability of Cordia macleodii Hook. f. & Thomson. Two herb. can be viewed at KEW, one from WB and the other from Maharashtra - http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000998063 http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000998062 Thank you Regards  surajit koley

Thank you for your reply. I will first read & search some more literature, then I will reply to you.  Regards, Priyabrata Roy.

efi page on Cordia macleodii

The plant in concern is Cordia for sure. to identify correctly to species level number of styles or number of bifurcated stigma is an important character. also ribbed fruiting calyx is also important. i feel C. wallichi can also be checked. regards satish pardeshi

Wild guess !  Please check for Cordia monoica.- from Mahadeswara ji.

[radha veach]

Going on the limited pictures available my guess would be Cordia macleodii which is found in Maharashtra.

thank you

regards

Radha

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sikarwar ji.

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From: Dr. R.L.S. Sikarwar
Date: 25 August 2015 at 10:20
Subject: Re: Fwd: Please help me Identify the plant.
To: jmg...@gmail.com

Dear Garg ji,
This species is Cordia macleodii Hook. f. & Thomson. of family Boraginaceae and as per my observation
it is 100% true.
Thank u,
Dr. R.L.S. Sikarwar

On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:13:18 +0530 "J.M. Garg" wrote

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Forwarding
again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier
relevant feedback:

From another thread:This is a Boraginaceae member.Someone submitted a similar looking one in another
site - http://www.researchgate.net/post/Can_anyone_identify_this_tree
Thank youRegardssurajit koley                                         

First question - is it the same species as in another thread
- https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/1sVjY0Lh_Eo/Tyq4oa7RDgAJ?
If BSI can';t help with the physical specimen it must be much more difficult to arrive at a probable ID
merely by a couple of pictures.
I need to know (to start with the borage family as KEYed in by Prain and Haines) :-style characterovary

characterleaf size can be guessed with the attached picture showing ruler; but detail of flower size
(tube & lobe); fruit sizeMeanwhile, please check probability of Cordia macleodii Hook. f. & Thomson.

Two herb. can be viewed at KEW, one from WB and the other from Maharashtra -
http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000998063
http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000998062

Thank youRegards surajit koley                                         

Thank you for your reply. I will first read & search some more literature, then I will reply to
you. Regards,
Priyabrata Roy.


efi page on Cordia macleodii 

 



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Priyabrata Roy.
Date: 12 August 2015 at 20:25
Subject: Please help me Identify the plant.
To: jmg...@gmail.com


Respected sir,
Can you please help me to identify the plant (pictures are attached). Some useful information:1. After
15 years of study, only two species are found in entire 17,000 sq.kms of west Bengal and entire north
east and east India. 2. Even BSI, Howrah could not recognize the plant. 3. After 12 years, in this year

flower and fruit is found.4. Flowering time: April to June.5. Place where it is present: Bankura, West

Bengal.
Your kind cooperation is highly appreciated.
Note: Confidentiality of this mail and the information should be maintained.  Please find the
attachments.​​​​Regards,
Priyabrata Roy.

----------------------Research Fellow, Basudha Biotechnology Laboratory for Conservation,Kalikapur,
Kolkata- 700099Email: priyab...@outlook.com
Mobile: +(91)-9635016675Web: http://cintdis.org/

CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are
not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another
person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium.




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With regards,
J.M.Garg

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Flora & Fauna';

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species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
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Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India';.

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[surajit koley]

Did you or eFI receive any response from Mr Roy, Garg Sir?

Thank you

Regards

surajit koley

a non-botanist member of

efloraofIndia google group

[J.M. Garg]

No, Surajit ji.

[surajit koley]

Well, Garg Sir, Mr. Roy told us that he would reply after consulting some more literature. i am very much eager to know what he finally decided about his species.

Thank you

Regards

surajit koley

a non-botanist member of

efloraofIndia google group

[J.M. Garg]

Published as Cordia macleodii as per Identification of an endangered tree as a new record of Cordia macleodii, with an update of Cordia in West Bengal, India Debal Deb, Bo Li, Sanjib K. Chattopadhyay & Avik Ray (2018) Webbia, 73:1, 81-88.

With regards,
J.M.Garg

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia website (with a species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20).

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[Priyabrata Roy.]

Dear Sir, 

I've shared with you earlier as soon as it gets published. This work is done by our lab group in Kolkata. Glad to be a small part of it. Thank you for sharing the article with us. 

Regards,

Priyabrata Roy

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