371 ID wild plant Coleus

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 2, 2022, 3:17:10 PM10/2/22
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Please ID wild Coleus, kind regards, Sam.

Location: near Vannappuram, Thodupuzha, Idukki Dist., Kerala PIN:685607

Altitude: 1500fsl

Flower date: 21SEP2022, 04.50pm

Habitat: wild moisture, rocky misty hill, sunlight, wind 

Plant habit: creeping, branches, cylindrical weak silver stem 12mm base diameter, quadrangular purplish young stem, hairy, annual

Height: 01 feet

Leaves: opposite, ovate, serrated margins, purplish, hairy, simple fleshy, size:08×5cm, 02.5mm thickness 

Flower: terminal cone shaped racemose, clustered, erected lengthy peduncle, size:08x04mm, violet, non fragrant

Fruit:

Seed:

Camera: CANON EOS1500D +FL10x
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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 2, 2022, 3:21:10 PM10/2/22
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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 3, 2022, 11:31:09 AM10/3/22
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Coleus strobilifer (Roxb.) A.J.Paton 
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 3, 2022, 12:09:37 PM10/3/22
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Dear Saroj ji,
Yes, it is Coleus strobilifer, thank you very much for ID my plant, with kind regards, Sam 

Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 3, 2022, 12:10:04 PM10/3/22
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OK Sam !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Oct 5, 2022, 1:34:13 AM10/5/22
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Looks different as per images at 
Pl. check
https://efloraofindia.com/2020/02/27/anisochilus-plantagineus/ (But FoPI and BSI FI, did not give distribution in Kerala).

So also check other species as per 
https://efloraofindia.com/2020/06/30/coleus/
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J.M. Garg

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Oct 5, 2022, 2:47:01 AM10/5/22
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Looks different as per images at 
Pl. check
https://efloraofindia.com/2020/02/27/anisochilus-plantagineus/ (But FoPI and BSI FI, did not give distribution in Kerala).
So also check other species as per 
https://efloraofindia.com/2020/06/30/coleus/

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 5, 2022, 2:48:41 AM10/5/22
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Also check 
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Revision of Anisochilus.pdf

J.M. Garg

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Oct 5, 2022, 3:31:50 AM10/5/22
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Thanks a lot, Alan ji

On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 12:55, Alan Paton <A.P...@kew.org> wrote:

Hi it is one of the species which used to be placed  in Anisochilus, but I’d need a specimen to determine it further.

 

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 5, 2022, 9:55:04 AM10/5/22
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Thank you very much dear Garg ji for forwarding my request for ID.
Thank you very much dear Alan ji for your great observations.
With kind regards, Sam.

Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 5, 2022, 11:14:05 AM10/5/22
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So what is this  sp. ?
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Oct 5, 2022, 11:26:30 AM10/5/22
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Still to get an id. 
Somewhat closer to 
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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 7, 2022, 12:42:13 AM10/7/22
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Yes, it is very close to Anisochilus plantagineus, thank you very much dear Garg ji for the identification, with kind regards, Sam.

J.M. Garg

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Nov 4, 2022, 10:47:19 AM11/4/22
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Please ID wild Coleus, kind regards, Sam.

Location: near Vannappuram, Thodupuzha, Idukki Dist., Kerala PIN:685607

Altitude: 1500fsl

Flower date: 21SEP2022, 04.50pm

Habitat: wild moisture, rocky misty hill, sunlight, wind 

Plant habit: creeping, branches, cylindrical weak silver stem 12mm base diameter, quadrangular purplish young stem, hairy, annual

Height: 01 feet

Leaves: opposite, ovate, serrated margins, purplish, hairy, simple fleshy, size:08×5cm, 02.5mm thickness 

Flower: terminal cone shaped racemose, clustered, erected lengthy peduncle, size:08x04mm, violet, non fragrant

Fruit:

Seed:

Camera: CANON EOS1500D +FL10x- from Sam ji 

Looks different as per images at 

Pl. check
https://efloraofindia.com/2020/02/27/anisochilus-plantagineus/ (But FoPI and BSI FI, did not give distribution in Kerala).
So also check other species as per 

Hi it is one of the species which used to be placed  in Anisochilus, but I’d need a specimen to determine it further.- from Alan Paton ji  

Still to get an id. 
Somewhat closer to 
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Dr E S Santhosh Kumar

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Nov 4, 2022, 12:16:51 PM11/4/22
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Anisochilus sp, not a Coleus or Plectranthus

J.M. Garg

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Nov 4, 2022, 12:20:21 PM11/4/22
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Thanks, Santhosh ji.
Any idea about the species?
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 8, 2022, 9:04:08 AM11/8/22
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Thanks a lot, Sunoj ji

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Dear Sir
It is Coleus scaber
sunoj

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Hi, Sunoj ji,
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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Nov 8, 2022, 9:51:54 AM11/8/22
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Thank you very much dear Sunoj ji for ID my plant, with kind regards, Sam.

J.M. Garg

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Nov 21, 2022, 5:13:46 AM11/21/22
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Can it be Coleus anthonyi as per the publication ?:
Coleus anthonyi (Lamiaceae): a new species from South Western Ghats, India: Jebin Joseph, Jose Mathew, Kadakasseril V. George (2020)



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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Nov 21, 2022, 5:29:37 AM11/21/22
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Dear Garg ji,
Yes, Coleus anthonyi is the closest plant with my plant, it's habitat also same, thank you very much for ID my plant and providing link for identification, with kind regards, Sam.

J.M. Garg

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Nov 21, 2022, 7:37:42 PM11/21/22
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Thanks a lot, Jose ji

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Sir,

I think it is Coleus scaber itself

Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Nov 21, 2022, 10:47:27 PM11/21/22
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Thank you very much dear Jose ji for ID my plant, with kind regards, Sam.

J.M. Garg

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Dec 19, 2022, 5:05:09 AM12/19/22
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Another feedback from Ashutosh ji from another post:
The plant shared by Sam ji looks different, particularly the pubescens in leaves is very less (it's not tomentose) and I can see some of the spike-like heads are narrow, cylindrical and more than 3 times longer than broad. Additionally in his plants the inflorescence is pale colored and not dark purplish, so his plant may not be C. scaber though it's tough to confirm without floral dissections.
As per the below mentioned key his plants are not even completely matching the other species C. wightii as the inflorescence is not 3-6 branched in his plants.
Spike-like head ovoid to ovoid-cylindric, less than 3 times as long as broad, purplish in appearance when dry; axis usually simple, rarely 2 - 3-branched; fruiting calyx tube purplish-brown villous - C. scaber
Spike-like head long and narrow cylindrical, more than 3 times as long as broad, black in appearance when dry; axis usually with 3-6 branches; fruiting calyx tube white villous - C. wightii
Thanks and regards
Ashutosh Sharma

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Dec 19, 2022, 7:39:48 AM12/19/22
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Thank you very much dear Ashutosh ji for providing a detailed description of my plant.
Thank you very dear Garg ji for sharing the information.
With kind regards, Sam.
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