Identification needed for this plant

[Seema Bin Zeenat]

Location Rajouri jandk 

[Jaydip Gadhiya]

Family:- Papaveraceae

It may be Papaver sp. 

Thanks & Regards

Jaydip Gadhiya 🌿

On Mon, 2 Jan, 2023, 19:19 Seema Bin Zeenat, <seemabi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Location Rajouri jandk 

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[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Seema ji,
Pl. post a side view of the flower and show the leaves also, for I'd.

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[Mahadeswara]

I concur with Gadhiyaj ji.   

For exact ID of the species the photos suggested  by Garg ji are essential.

[J.M. Garg]

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From: Seema Bin Zeenat <seemabi...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 at 08:12
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:438962] Identification needed for this plant
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

I have only flower pic sir!!!

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[J.M. Garg]

Was it wild?

If so, one possibility can be 
https://efloraofindia.com/2021/11/02/papaver-dubium/

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[Tabish]

Looks like Papaver macrostomum, common in Kashmir.

  Tabish

On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 7:19:50 PM UTC+5:30 seemabinzee786 wrote:

Location Rajouri jandk 

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Tabish ji,

But I do not find black markings on the corolla as at
https://efloraofindia.com/2012/06/10/papaver-macrostomum/

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[Tabish]

Garg ji, you may be right. Papaver dubium does have black marks on the petal base, but they may also be completely missing. I don't know if same is the case for  Papaver macrostomum.

  Best wishes

  Tabish

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Tabish ji

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[taffa...@gmail.com]

The black spots of P.macrostomia are proverbial in persian , urdu and kashmiri poetry and refer to stained heart of the flower  and the red color of its petals refer to its red heart or to  intensity of  passion. I wonder if the plant in the post is an escapee  cultivar. The color of its petals is also more pink than red

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Taffazull ji, for interesting tit bits.

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[Tabish]

Garg ji,

   According to the description at Flora of Pakistan, Papaver macrostomum has "Flowers 3-6 cm in diameter, purple or pink with or without a basal blotch." So, missing black spots do not necessarily point to Papaver dubia. As Seema doesn't have any more pics, it is difficult to conclude about this flower.

   Tabish

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[Tabish]

Thanks Taffazul ji for the interesting anecdote! :-)

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Deeply lobed stigmatic lobes go with P. macrostomum, fruit would be conclusive.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Singh ji

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[Seema Bin Zeenat]

Location: Rajouri jandk 

[Gurcharan Singh]

I hope Dicliptera roxburghiana

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
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On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 8:40 PM Seema Bin Zeenat <seemabi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Location: Rajouri jandk 

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[J.M. Garg]

Any other images, Seema ji?

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Seema ji

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[J.M. Garg]

Yes, appears close to images at 
https://efloraofindia.com/2022/03/24/dicliptera-chinensis/

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