Jasmine for ID : 250611 : AK-1

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Aarti S. Khale

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Jun 25, 2011, 12:24:47 PM6/25/11
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Taken in our home garden at Nasik on 8/5/07 and 16/7/08.
A cultivated plant.
Kunda in Marathi but wanted the correct id.
Regards,
Aarti
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J.M. Garg

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M Swamy

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Sep 24, 2011, 6:57:14 AM9/24/11
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  Looks like star jasmine : Jasminum multiflorum.  kakada hoovu in kannada(?)

Madhuri Raut

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Sep 24, 2011, 12:29:59 PM9/24/11
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Yes I too go with Jasminum multiflorum is a species of jasmine, in the family Oleaceae. A native of India, Kundo (in Bengali) is known as in English.as Downy Jasmine, and Star Jasmine. Winter JasmineIndian Jasmine It flowers in Indian winter. It is also called Magha Mallika(Sanskrit) since it flowers in Magha winter month in the Indian Hindu Calendar. It flowers so much that sometimes the flowers cover most of the leaves leaving everything white Synonyms The stems and leaves are covered with a downy pubescence (and hence the name) that gives the plant an overall grayish-green appearance. Jasminum pubescens/ Jasminum gracillimum / Jasminum bifarium 

 BUT

jasminum nitidum is also called star jasmine other names Shining Jasmine, Angelwing Jasmine, Confederate Jasmine, Windmill Jasmine Raj Chameli, Chandani,Royal Jasmine

I think Star Jasmine is more apt for J nitidum as it really looks like a star
Attaching my pics of J Nitidum 

Regards
Bhagyashri
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Anand Kumar Bhatt

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Sep 25, 2011, 2:47:35 AM9/25/11
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It is J. multiflorum also known as J. pubescens. It is a shrub.Jasmine is both shrub and creeper. Chameli is creeper, and motia is shrub, although I have seen motia changing into a creeper. 
Looking to the pink colour of the peduncle and the bud in Madhuriji's photographs, this looks like J. mabaricum रान मोगरा 
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ushadi Micromini

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Sep 25, 2011, 2:56:48 AM9/25/11
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Ok... I am thoroughly confused...

1:    what Ararti ji showed looks different from what Bhagyashri/Madhuri  showed...
2:    too many names have been mentioned ....

3: Mr. Bhatt: in first paragraph says , I quote : "It is J. multiflorum also known as J. pubescens." end quote 
AND in the second paragraph says : I quote : "  this looks like J. mabaricum रान मोगरा    "

some one please clarify:  sorry,
I  am most stupid when it comes to such confusing thread....


I Would appreciate if someone would tell me what is in Arati ji's picture....
and what is in Bhagyashri/Madhuri ji's pictures,  clearly ..preferably in that order....



Thank you...
Usha di...

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Anand Kumar Bhatt

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Sep 25, 2011, 3:23:57 AM9/25/11
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Aartiji's Nasik photographs are kund (J. multiflorum). 
Madhuriji's photographs were in some other link which got mixed up here. 
I had attempted a write-up on Jasmines sometime back  The link is:

all the best.
ak

ushadi Micromini

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Sep 25, 2011, 3:43:05 AM9/25/11
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Dear all' I had sent this earlier... but someone named Vaishali's account seems to have gotten it and no further... I think.. got a confusing message from that accoutn...
so sending it again minus the couple of unknown mail accounts..

SO IF YOU ARE GETTING FOR THE SECOND TIME>>
PLEASE FORGIVE ME
and IGNORE THIS message

I quote what I had said...

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:26 PM, ushadi Micromini <micromi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok... I am thoroughly confused...

1:    what Ararti ji showed looks different from what Bhagyashri/Madhuri  showed...
2:    too many names have been mentioned ....

3: Mr. Bhatt: in first paragraph says , I quote : "It is J. multiflorum also known as J. pubescens." end quote 
AND in the second paragraph says : I quote : "  this looks like J. mabaricum रान मोगरा    "

some one please clarify:  sorry,
I  am most stupid when it comes to such confusing thread....


I Would appreciate if someone would tell me what is in Arati ji's picture....
and what is in Bhagyashri/Madhuri ji's pictures,  clearly ..preferably in that order....

Thank you...
Usha di...

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USHA DI ................................
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Ushadi micromini

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Sep 25, 2011, 4:02:23 AM9/25/11
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OH, yes ... now... Thank you Mr. Bhatt...

Come to think of it.. I had seen this blog once in the passing a
couple of years ago...
Pictures are very nice...


but I was/am looking for a key to id...

thanks.
usha di
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On Sep 25, 12:43 pm, ushadi Micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear all' I had sent this earlier... but someone named Vaishali's account
> seems to have gotten it and no further... I think.. got a confusing message
> from that accoutn...
> so sending it again minus the couple of unknown mail accounts..
>
> SO IF YOU ARE GETTING FOR THE SECOND TIME>>
> PLEASE FORGIVE ME
> and IGNORE THIS message
>
> I quote what I had said...
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:26 PM, ushadi Micromini <
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ok... I am thoroughly confused...
>
> > *1: *   what Ararti ji showed looks different from what
> > Bhagyashri/Madhuri  showed...
> > *2:    *too many names have been mentioned ....
>
> > 3: Mr. Bhatt: in first paragraph says , I quote : "It is J. multiflorum
> > also known as J. pubescens." end quote
> > AND in the second paragraph says : I quote : "  this looks like J.
> > mabaricum रान मोगरा    "
>
> > some one please clarify:  sorry,
> > I  am most stupid when it comes to such confusing thread....
>
> > I Would appreciate if someone would tell me what is in Arati ji's
> > picture....
> > and what is in Bhagyashri/Madhuri ji's pictures,  clearly ..preferably in
> > that order....
>
> > Thank you...
> > Usha di...
>
> > ==========
>
> > END QUOTES
>
> USHA DI ................................
> =====================================================
>
>
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>
>
> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Anand Kumar Bhatt <anandkbh...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
>
> >> It is J. multiflorum also known as J. pubescens. It is a shrub.Jasmine is
> >> both shrub and creeper. Chameli is creeper, and motia is shrub, although I
> >> have seen motia changing into a creeper.
> >> Looking to the pink colour of the peduncle and the bud in Madhuriji's
> >> photographs, this looks like J. mabaricum रान मोगरा
> >> ak
>
> >> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Yes I too go with *Jasminum multiflorum* is a species of jasmine<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasmine>,
> >>> in the family Oleaceae <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleaceae>. A native
> >>> of India, Kundo (in Bengali) is known as in English.as *Downy Jasmine*,
> >>> and *Star Jasmine*. *Winter Jasmine*, *Indian Jasmine*,  It flowers in
> >>> Indian <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India> winter. It is also called *Magha
> >>> Mallika*(Sanskrit <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit>) since it
> >>> flowers in Magha <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magha_%28month%29> winter
> >>> month in the Indian Hindu Calendar<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_Calendar>.
> >>> It flowers so much that sometimes the flowers cover most of the leaves
> >>> leaving everything white Synonyms The stems and leaves are covered with
> >>> a downy pubescence (and hence the name) that gives the plant an overall
> >>> grayish-green appearance. Jasminum pubescens/ Jasminum gracillimum /
> >>> Jasminum bifarium
> >>> *
> >>> *
> >>> * BUT*
> >>> *
> >>> *
> >>> jasminum nitidum is also called star jasmine other names *Shining
> >>> Jasmine, Angelwing Jasmine, Confederate Jasmine, Windmill Jasmine* Raj
> >>> Chameli, Chandani,Royal Jasmine
>
> >>> I think Star Jasmine is more apt for J nitidum as it really looks like a
> >>> star
> >>> Attaching my pics of J Nitidum
>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Bhagyashri
>
> >>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 4:27 PM, M Swamy <swamy.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>   Looks like star jasmine : Jasminum multiflorum.  kakada hoovu in
> >>>> kannada(?)
>
> >>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:43 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>>> From: Aarti S. Khale <aarti.kh...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> Date: 25 June 2011 21:54
> >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:72571] Jasmine for ID : 250611 : AK-1
> >>>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, Anand Kumar Bhatt
> >>>>> <anandkbh...@gmail.com>, ajinkya gadave <ajinkyagad...@gmail.com>
>
> >>>>> Taken in our home garden at Nasik on 8/5/07 and 16/7/08.
> >>>>> A cultivated plant.
> >>>>> Kunda in Marathi but wanted the correct id.
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Aarti
>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> With regards,
> >>>>> J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com)
> >>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
> >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand
> >>>>> species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
> >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise):
> >>>>>http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use
> >>>>> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image
> >>>>> .
> >>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
> >>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:
> >>>>>http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix(more than 1700 members
> >>>>> & 79,000 messages on 31/8/11) or Efloraofindia website:
> >>>>>https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/(with a species database
> >>>>> of around 5500 species).
> >>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
> >>>>> India'.
>
> >> --
> >> Anand Kumar Bhatt
> >> A-59, B.S.F.Colony, Airport Road
> >> Gwalior. 474 005.
> >> Tele: 0751-247 2233. Mobile 0 94253 09780.
> >> My blogsite is at:
> >>http://anandkbhatt.blogspot.com
> >> (A NEW BLOG has been ADDED ON 9 August 2011.)
> >> And the photo site:
> >>www.flickr.com/photos/akbhatt/
> >> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/akbhatt/>(NEW PHOTOS HAVE BEEN ADDED ON 15

Madhuri Raut

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Sep 25, 2011, 7:11:17 AM9/25/11
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@Ushadi attaching a pic showing the three different flowers in discussion and what I feel about them. @Anandji I hope I am correct. In the pics posted by me the buds do have a deep pink stalk but once they bloom the stalk is green with a pinkish tinge, secondly the flower has more petals which are thinner than J Malabaricum .
Really wonderful write up by you on Jasmines. For so many days I wanted to know what is Jui(in Marathi) called in English, what is wild Jasmine called in Marathi. But I am confused about differentiating motia from mogra till now I would call all of them Mogra.Thanks once again

Regards
Bhagyashri
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Balkar Arya

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Sep 25, 2011, 8:35:47 AM9/25/11
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Nice writeup on your blog Anand Ji and good presentation by Bhagyashri Ji.
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