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Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 22, 2018, 2:53:21 AM6/22/18
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Dear Members,

Location: Jaubari, Sandakphu, India
Date: 13 May 2018
Altitude: 10000 ft.
Habit : Wild

Which Urticaceae is this ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju
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J.M. Garg

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Jun 22, 2018, 12:31:12 PM6/22/18
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Pilea you recently posted? 

Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 24, 2018, 2:56:02 AM6/24/18
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Look matching Mr. Garg but confusion about the elevation.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jul 5, 2018, 6:43:21 AM7/5/18
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Flora of China gives elevation upto 300 m for Pilea scripta
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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 5, 2018, 6:47:40 AM7/5/18
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3000 m.

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jul 5, 2018, 6:48:53 AM7/5/18
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Yes- 3000 m.

J.M. Garg

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Dec 3, 2019, 4:22:26 AM12/3/19
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I checked the details in Flora of Bhutan of closely related species, as below:
3. P. scripta (D. Don) Weddell. Nep: Sheta Gag/ata {117).
Monoecious or dioecious herb up to 1 or 1.5 m, woody at base, glabrous, stems succulent, swollen above nodes. Leaves elliptic or lanceolate, often slightly asymmetric, 9- 23 x 3.5- 6 em, acuminate, base tapering but rounded at insertion, margins finely serrate, lateral veins numerous, conspicuous, reticulations interruptedly thickened; petioles 2.5-5 cm; stipules lanceolate, c 3 mm. Male panicles often large and spreading, up to 15 cm, in lower axils. Female panicles up to 6 cm long, in upper axils. Achenes ovate, c 0.75 mm, minutely roughened, with rim smooth, thickened.
Bhutan : S-Chukka district (Marich on g) and Gaylegphug district (Betni and Rani Camp), C- Punakha district (near Tinlegang); Sikkim. Warm broad-leaved forests, on moist shady slopes, 1000- 1900 m. July- September.
Some plants from Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh (Nyam Jang Chu) have broader leaves and approach very closely P. trinervia Wight , a S Indian species which may be better regarded as a subspecies of P. scripta.
4. P. symmeria Weddell; P. wightii sensu F.B.I. , p.p. non Weddell. Fig. 11a - c.
Similar to P. scripta, but a smaller plant 15- 30 (- 50) cm, with more ovate leaves 6- 12 x 3- 4.5 em, base less tapering and more rounded, margins with fewer but coarser teeth, often blotched whitish between veins, reticulations less conspicuous and without interrupted thickenings; sometimes sparsely pilose above; petioles often shorter, 0.5- 2 (-4) cm. Panicles often smaller, 2- 10 cm. Achenes almost smooth.
Bhutan: C-Thimphu to Mongar districts, common , N-Upper Mo Chu and Upper Bumthang Chu districts; Sikkim. Moist Hemlock/ Rhododendron and Evergreen oak forests, on shaded banks and by streams, 2200- 3300 m. May- July.
The commonest form, found in Hemlock forests, has ovate, coarsely serrate leaves; plants from Evergreen oak. forests are more robust and have more elliptic, shallowly se rrate leaves. A form with smaller leaves occurs at much lower altitude in Chukka district (Marichong).
5. P. martinii (liveill~ Handel-Mazzetti
Closely allied to P. symmeria but plants larger, up to 1 m, with larger leaves up to 20 x 10 em, always coarsely serrate.
Bhutan: C-Tashigang district (Tashigang and Tashi Yangtsi). Moist forests,2 100-2300 m. July-August.
A single collection from Thimphu district (Barshong) resembles P. martinii and large forms of P. symmeria but differs from both in its conspicuously pubescent leaves.

Keeping the above in mind, I think it may be P. symmeria Weddell.
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J.M.Garg

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J.M. Garg

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Dec 3, 2019, 4:23:07 AM12/3/19
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Pl. also see GBif specimens.

Saroj Kasaju

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Saroj Kasaju

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 12:37 PM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, Tabish <tab...@gmail.com>


Dear Members,

Location: Jaubari, Sandakphu, India
Date: 13 May 2018
Altitude: 10000 ft.
Habit : Wild

Which Urticaceae is this ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 10:16 PM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Pilea you recently posted? 


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 12:40 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Look matching Mr. Garg but confusion about the elevation.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju



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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:28 PM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Flora of China gives elevation upto 300 m for Pilea scripta
--
With regards,
J.M.Garg

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world- around 2975 members & 2,90,000 messages on 31.3.18) or Efloraofindia website (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images).

The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'.



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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:32 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


3000 m.

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju



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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:33 PM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Yes- 3000 m.


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 3:07 PM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>


I checked the details in Flora of Bhutan of closely related species, as below:
3. P. scripta (D. Don) Weddell. Nep: Sheta Gag/ata {117).
Monoecious or dioecious herb up to 1 or 1.5 m, woody at base, glabrous, stems succulent, swollen above nodes. Leaves elliptic or lanceolate, often slightly asymmetric, 9- 23 x 3.5- 6 em, acuminate, base tapering but rounded at insertion, margins finely serrate, lateral veins numerous, conspicuous, reticulations interruptedly thickened; petioles 2.5-5 cm; stipules lanceolate, c 3 mm. Male panicles often large and spreading, up to 15 cm, in lower axils. Female panicles up to 6 cm long, in upper axils. Achenes ovate, c 0.75 mm, minutely roughened, with rim smooth, thickened.
Bhutan : S-Chukka district (Marich on g) and Gaylegphug district (Betni and Rani Camp), C- Punakha district (near Tinlegang); Sikkim. Warm broad-leaved forests, on moist shady slopes, 1000- 1900 m. July- September.
Some plants from Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh (Nyam Jang Chu) have broader leaves and approach very closely P. trinervia Wight , a S Indian species which may be better regarded as a subspecies of P. scripta.
4. P. symmeria Weddell; P. wightii sensu F.B.I. , p.p. non Weddell. Fig. 11a - c.
Similar to P. scripta, but a smaller plant 15- 30 (- 50) cm, with more ovate leaves 6- 12 x 3- 4.5 em, base less tapering and more rounded, margins with fewer but coarser teeth, often blotched whitish between veins, reticulations less conspicuous and without interrupted thickenings; sometimes sparsely pilose above; petioles often shorter, 0.5- 2 (-4) cm. Panicles often smaller, 2- 10 cm. Achenes almost smooth.
Bhutan: C-Thimphu to Mongar districts, common , N-Upper Mo Chu and Upper Bumthang Chu districts; Sikkim. Moist Hemlock/ Rhododendron and Evergreen oak forests, on shaded banks and by streams, 2200- 3300 m. May- July.
The commonest form, found in Hemlock forests, has ovate, coarsely serrate leaves; plants from Evergreen oak. forests are more robust and have more elliptic, shallowly se rrate leaves. A form with smaller leaves occurs at much lower altitude in Chukka district (Marichong).
5. P. martinii (liveill~ Handel-Mazzetti
Closely allied to P. symmeria but plants larger, up to 1 m, with larger leaves up to 20 x 10 em, always coarsely serrate.
Bhutan: C-Tashigang district (Tashigang and Tashi Yangtsi). Moist forests,2 100-2300 m. July-August.
A single collection from Thimphu district (Barshong) resembles P. martinii and large forms of P. symmeria but differs from both in its conspicuously pubescent leaves.

Keeping the above in mind, I think it may be P. symmeria Weddell.
--
With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia website (with a species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19).



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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 3:08 PM
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Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
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Saroj Kasaju

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May 19, 2020, 4:03:37 AM5/19/20
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Dear Tabish,
Did you check this ?Is ID ok 
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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