Tanacetum densum from Kashmir

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Gurcharan Singh

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Aug 27, 2010, 11:19:40 PM8/27/10
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Tanacetum densum from Kashmir, cultivated in gardens. Photographed from Hazuribagh Garden in Srinagar on June 16, 2010

Common name: Partridge feather


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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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Rashida Atthar

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Aug 28, 2010, 10:34:56 AM8/28/10
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Beautiful colours of this species sir, thank you for sharing.

regards,
Rashida.

tanay bose

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Aug 28, 2010, 1:36:16 PM8/28/10
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This plant is widely found in the gardens of Vancouver !!!
tanay

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Tabish

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Aug 28, 2010, 2:47:18 PM8/28/10
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Dear Gurcharan ji,
I urge you to rethink this ID. I feel this should be Artemisia
stelleriana
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/1369/
http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Dusty%20Miller.html
- Tabish
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Gurcharan Singh

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Aug 28, 2010, 11:26:21 PM8/28/10
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Tabish ji
Artemisia does not have ray florets. A. stellariana is a very common plant in Delhi sold by the nurserymen under the name Lavander and many people get duped. It flowers rarely and that too in November-December, when you will come to know that it is not lavander. One who has seen lavander can't be cheated easily.
   I had uploaded Artemisia stellariana from Delhi earlier. I am doing it again separately.

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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Tabish

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Aug 29, 2010, 12:46:50 AM8/29/10
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Gurcharan ji,
You are right about Artemisia stellariana - I based my conclusion
looking at only the leaves.
However, the leaves of Tanacetum densum on the web look very
different:
http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Asteraceae/Tanacetum_densum.html
The plant is commonly called Partridge Feather because the leaflet
arrangement looks like a feather. Leaves of your plant look quite
different.
- Tabish

On Aug 29, 8:26 am, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tabish ji
> Artemisia does not have ray florets. A. stellariana is a very common plant
> in Delhi sold by the nurserymen under the name Lavander and many people get
> duped. It flowers rarely and that too in November-December, when you will
> come to know that it is not lavander. One who has seen lavander can't be
> cheated easily.
>    I had uploaded Artemisia stellariana from Delhi earlier. I am doing it
> again separately.
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

Gurcharan Singh

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Aug 29, 2010, 1:37:57 AM8/29/10
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Tabish ji
I have uploaded both: true Partridge feather leaves T. haradjanii (syn: T. densum var. amanii) also known as Silver tansy and typical T. densum (var. densum) which has spreading leaf segments. The two are best treated as distinct species.

Some links for T. haradjanii





And some for T. densum






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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 25, 2010, 11:56:10 PM9/25/10
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Tabish ji had doubted the identity of this plant. I have seen a lot of these plants growing in California, and after studying them in detail I am convinced that the plant is not T. densum at all. I am also not able to fix it with any species of Tanacetum on the net, or even in Hortus Third or any other literature available with me..

The identity of these specimens ramains unresolved. Kindly help in solving the riddle.



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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

J.M. Garg

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Oct 21, 2010, 8:59:25 AM10/21/10
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“.. the leaves of Tanacetum densum on the web look very
different:

 http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Asteraceae/Tanacetum_densum.html
The plant is commonly called Partridge Feather because the leaflet
arrangement looks like a feather. Leaves of your plant look quite
different.

   - Tabish”

 

“Tabish ji had doubted the identity of this plant. I have seen a lot of these plants growing in California, and after studying them in detail I am convinced that the plant is not T. densum at all. I am also not able to fix it with any species of Tanacetum on the net, or even in Hortus Third or any other literature available with me..

The identity of these specimens ramains unresolved. Kindly help in solving the riddle.

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 3, 2010, 4:22:36 PM11/3/10
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“.. the leaves of Tanacetum densum on the web look very
different:

 http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Asteraceae/Tanacetum_densum.html
The plant is commonly called Partridge Feather because the leaflet
arrangement looks like a feather. Leaves of your plant look quite
different.
   - Tabish”

 

“Tabish ji had doubted the identity of this plant. I have seen a lot of these plants growing in California, and after studying them in detail I am convinced that the plant is not T. densum at all. I am also not able to fix it with any species of Tanacetum on the net, or even in Hortus Third or any other literature available with me..

The identity of these specimens ramains unresolved. Kindly help in solving the riddle.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh”




-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 29, 2010, 2:52:47 PM11/29/10
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I have been struggling with the identity of this cultivated plant from Kashmir for last three months, more so after I found it grown very commonly in California also. My four day trip to Shashta mountains helped me to solve the mystery of this plant as well as the Rugus I uploaded from Kashmir.
    I think I have found an answer. It is Jacobaea maritima (L.) Pelser & Meijden) (syn: Senecio cineraria DC.; S. maritima L.).  Common names Dusty-miller, Rag-wort, Silverdust. Please validate
Here are a few links:






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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

Tabish

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Nov 30, 2010, 12:45:02 AM11/30/10
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Gurcharan ji,
I think you are right! This is Jacobaea maritima indeed!
- Tabish

On Nov 30, 12:52 am, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have been struggling with the identity of this cultivated plant from
> Kashmir for last three months, more so after I found it grown very commonly
> in California also. My four day trip to Shashta mountains helped me to solve
> the mystery of this plant as well as the Rugus I uploaded from Kashmir.
>     I think I have found an answer. It is *Jacobaea maritima (L.) Pelser &
> Meijden*) (syn: Senecio cineraria DC.; S. maritima L.).  Common names
> Dusty-miller, Rag-wort, Silverdust. Please validate
> Here are a few links:
>
> http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Senecio_cineraria.htm
>
> http://www.hardyplants.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_C...
>
> http://fabian.balearweb.net/post/52113
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
> > Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> > “.. *the leaves of Tanacetum densum on the web look very
> > different:
> > *
> >  http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Asteraceae/Tanacetum_densum.html
> > The plant is commonly called Partridge Feather because the leaflet
> > arrangement looks like a feather. Leaves of your plant look quite
> > different.
> >    - Tabish”
>
> > “Tabish ji had doubted the identity of this plant. I have seen a lot of
> > these plants growing in California, and after studying them in detail I am
> > convinced that the plant is not T. densum at all. I am also not able to fix
> > it with any species of Tanacetum on the net, or even in Hortus Third or any
> > other literature available with me..
>
> > *The identity of these specimens ramains unresolved. Kindly help in
> > solving the riddle.*

Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 30, 2010, 12:53:43 AM11/30/10
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Thanks Tabish ji for doubting it earlier when I uploaded it as Tanacetum densum, and for confirming it as Jacobaea maritima.

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

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