Phases of developments of eFI site

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J.M. Garg

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Aug 7, 2019, 12:46:44 AM8/7/19
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Dear members,
I think these are the phases of developments of eFI site:
1. Phase 1- When we could retrieve the data from our Excel sheet and put these on efi site species wise, say from Nov. 2010, to say up to Dec.2012 (new format & colour scheme).
2. Phase 2- When we started adding data directly from discussion threads to efi site along with species available on genera pages, say for next two years (new genera pagesavailability of keys, additional inf. from cc-by sources, use of efi in scientific publications, efloraofindia in IAAT Conference, Award for efloraofindia), say from Jan.'2013 to Dec. 2014, for two years.
4. Phase 4- When we started inserting images on large scale along with through revision of all our posts genus and family wise (Comparative images are a game changer, Presentation for IAAt Conference-2017, Delhi University, Times have changed with images, efi completing 10 years, Images available in all page in efloraofindia, Every successive post leads to validation, efloraofindia (eFI) site completes eight years on 2 Nov. 2018, 121 families are now with images (with names starting from A to H) & now already more than 150 families covered and focus shifted to genus pages where members are having problem in day to day identifications, To have thumbnails images on all threads), say from Jan.2017 and still continuing.
This aspect came to my mind and I thought of capturing it in a single thread. This only shows how difficult our journey has been, but for the support of all of you.
Long Live eFloraofIndia!!!
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Dinesh Valke

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Aug 7, 2019, 1:10:50 AM8/7/19
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Garg ji, many many thanks for all the efforts and hard work, meticulously getting executed.

Regards.
Dinesh

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J.M. Garg

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Aug 7, 2019, 11:18:41 AM8/7/19
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Great job and Progress, Gargji.

I joined in 2010, i had no idea about what the site excel sheet would add, (Phase i as you call it) 
but 
wow look what you have accomplished. (The current phase)

wonderful.
Efloraindia pictures are showing up in google searches.

love it

Usha di
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Aug 7, 2019, 11:18:55 AM8/7/19
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Truly a great journey for all of us. It motivated us to explore different areas more vigorously, learn about plants from other parts of India, thanks to Garg ji who led us from the front, Dinesh ji, Prashant ji, Satish Phadke ji, Rajesh Sachdev, Aarti Khale, who enriched our knowledge in a big way, and experts like Vijayasankar Raman, D S Rawat, E. S. Santosh Kumar, P Santhan, Muthu Karthick, Nayan Singh, TPS Kumar, Tapas Chakrabarty, Ritesh Kumar Chaudhary, Saroj Kumar Kasaju, who gave new direction to our group, Pankaj Kumar who not only initiated me to Orchids, but also has been deeply involved all through, Balkar Singh, Nidhan Singh, Smita Raskar who made possible group exploration trips especially Western Himalaya and Ushadi who has always been big motivator throwing in valuable suggestions, pointers for identification and keeping discussions lively. Truly a great journey for all of us.
   
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
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On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 2:36 AM Ushadi Micromini <micromi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Great job and Progress, Gargji.

I joined in 2010, i had no idea about what the site excel sheet would add, (Phase i as you call it) 
but 
wow look what you have accomplished. (The current phase)

wonderful.
Efloraindia pictures are showing up in google searches.

love it

Usha di
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Thanks, Singh ji.
Accumulated knowledge in the database, by all the exerts and members, is guiding not only us, but all in the world. 

On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 19:04, Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> wrote:
Truly a great journey for all of us. It motivated us to explore different areas more vigorously, learn about plants from other parts of India, thanks to Garg ji who led us from the front, Dinesh ji, Prashant ji, Satish Phadke ji, Rajesh Sachdev, Aarti Khale, who enriched our knowledge in a big way, and experts like Vijayasankar Raman, D S Rawat, E. S. Santosh Kumar, P Santhan, Muthu Karthick, Nayan Singh, TPS Kumar, Tapas Chakrabarty, Ritesh Kumar Chaudhary, Saroj Kumar Kasaju, who gave new direction to our group, Pankaj Kumar who not only initiated me to Orchids, but also has been deeply involved all through, Balkar Singh, Nidhan Singh, Smita Raskar who made possible group exploration trips especially Western Himalaya and Ushadi who has always been big motivator throwing in valuable suggestions, pointers for identification and keeping discussions lively. Truly a great journey for all of us.
   
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Mob: 9810359089


On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 2:36 AM Ushadi Micromini <micromi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Great job and Progress, Gargji.

I joined in 2010, i had no idea about what the site excel sheet would add, (Phase i as you call it) 
but 
wow look what you have accomplished. (The current phase)

wonderful.
Efloraindia pictures are showing up in google searches.

love it

Usha di
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J.M. Garg

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Dear Mr. Garg,
Efloraofindia has become a very important resource in relatively a short period of time as a result of your vision and the efforts you and the pioneers in the group have put in. Now with an extensive list of members from all over India it’s perhaps the most valuable platform to further our knowledge of Indian plants. The statistics speak from themselves!

I joined this group about five years ago when its was already an important reservoir of knowledge. In this short time, I have learnt a lot from discussions on various genre and species. Genre and species pages have made identifications simpler. 

A large number of photographs on our page depicting different aspects of a species are a great help matching the features to the ID keys. Perhaps we could strengthen that further and strive to include all features that are critical in ascertaining the identification for each species. We could then list the features that we based our identifications on. It’s already being done for several species on the pages and can be strengthened.

Also, perhaps, we can formalise the system of finalising the identification. For example, for doubtful species we could fix an ID after three (or more) seniors/experts have looked at the photos and agreed upon the ID. This way, the species/genus page will only have the photographs whose identification is beyond doubt and matches the key features listed on the page. The other photos could belong to the discussions as before. Of course, the identification may still be revised when additional research so demands.

I am aware that all this takes a lot of effort and you, Mr. Garg, are shouldering more than your share of this. Your suggestion of finding volunteers is a good way forward. I do not have experience to contribute to that discussion but have seen valuable suggestions put forth by members who have.

My sincere gratitude for providing this great platform for learning and contributing.

Thank you.
Ashwini






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Aug 9, 2019, 2:25:26 AM8/9/19
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Thanks a lot, Ashwini ji, for this important feedback.
I will certainly try to strengthen the aspects you have highlighted.
What comes in contrast with any other site in the word is the comparative images on genus and family pages. I have hardly seen any such efforts anywhere in the world, at least on such a large scale.
This itself makes us stand apart, along with so many other aspects. We have always followed unorthodox approach, hardly seen anywhere else in the world.

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J.M. Garg

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Hi, Ashwini ji,
We are also trying to add images on all threads, so that if their is any mis-identification in any thread, it will stand out and will be corrected in due course.

J.M. Garg

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Aug 9, 2019, 11:23:37 PM8/9/19
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Thanks, Satish ji,
We miss you very badly.

On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 19:59, Satish Phadke <drsmp...@gmail.com> wrote:
Congratulations and thanks to Garg ji for the great work being done. Though not very active recently I very much remain to be a plant lover and continue to see the site occasionally.
Dr Satish Phadke


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Thanks, Ashwini ji.

On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 at 07:35, Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com> wrote:
Thank you Mr. Garg. It’s a good idea. 

Warm regards,
Ashwini

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