Telosma sp. from Hooghyl

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surajit koley

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Jul 5, 2012, 1:47:12 PM7/5/12
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Sir / Madam,

Found this twiner in a shady place, under dense canopies of other trees, intertwined with other species like Smilax and Cayratia trifolia, hanging from an unknown tree.

But, my species -
  1. stems far more than 3 meters, unlike T. pallida in Flora of China - http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200018714
  2. corolla tube "as long as or shorter than lobes" , like T. pallida in Flora of China - http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200018714
  3. Flowers seems to be odourless, i didn't smell, even if fragrant, must be faintly. like T. pallida in Flora of China - http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200018714
  4. no. of basal veins (leaves) of my species = i am confused
So,

Species : Telosma sp., close to Telosma pallida (Roxb.) Craib
Habit & Habitat : wild slender twiner, under tree canopy, more than 15 feet high
Date : 4/7/12. 12.42 p.m.
Place : Garalgacha, Hooghly

Thank you & Regards,

Surajit Koley

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jmgarg1

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Jul 14, 2012, 8:37:47 AM7/14/12
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Chitra Shanker

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Jul 14, 2012, 9:32:30 AM7/14/12
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It is indeed TElosoma cordata a fragrant flowering creeper the flowers of which are called a s kodi sampangi in Tamil
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surajit koley

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Jul 14, 2012, 11:58:54 AM7/14/12
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Madam,

Thank you very much for the ID of this plant.

Regards,

Surajit Koley

surajit koley

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Jul 14, 2012, 11:59:18 AM7/14/12
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Thank you Garg Sir for taking care of this plant. It has been identified by Chitra Ji as Telosma cordata.

Regards,

surajit

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surajit koley

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Aug 22, 2012, 10:26:20 PM8/22/12
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Sir,

I revisited this plant a couple of days ago, on the 18th, this month. The flowers are not fragrant, nor even the faintest way. I attach latest photos.

Regards,

surajit



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Mahadeswara

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Aug 22, 2012, 11:53:49 PM8/22/12
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Please see the link  on  T.pallida, wherein   Prof. Gurucharan ji has posted the photographs (ID confirmed):
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!msg/indiantreepix/6SmkEdeOsTk/_9onzeT-ZogJ.   The photographs of the  leaves  posted by you do not match with those.   Therefore, please recheck for ID confirmation or otherwise..

surajit koley

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Aug 23, 2012, 2:20:05 PM8/23/12
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Dear Mahadeswara Ji,

I do not claim that my species is T. pallida, neither do i claim it is T. cordata. Please note, i have written in my post, these very words : "Species : Telosma sp., close to Telosma pallida (Roxb.) Craib".

According to Flora of China (http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200018714) and a pdf file available at, http://flora.huh.harvard.edu/china/pdf/PDF16/telosma.pdf, the leaf apex of Telosma pallida is acuminate, flowers are odorless or nearly so. If an image at http://www.biotik.org/india/defs/814_en.html correctly shows what an acuminate apex means, i think my species leaves have the same feature, and again it can be compared with - http://herbarium-images.googlecode.com/hg/specimen-represent-scans/3792-telosma-pallida.jpg,, maybe leaves of my second uploads also feature ovate-cordate and base deeply cordate, besides flowers are odorless.

Thank you & Regards,

surajit




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surajit koley

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Aug 24, 2012, 2:13:33 PM8/24/12
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Mahadeswara Ji,

Today once again i recorded some more pics of the same plant, from the same place. Hope these pics will help determine the ID of this species, be it T. pallida or T. cordata or some other. These flowers are never fragrant, as have been checked by some of my students also.

Average scaling of leaves and flowers :-
  • leaf petiole = 3.2 cm
  • leaf blade = 7.5 cm x 5 cm
  • peduncle = 1.1 cm
  • pedicel = 0.8 cm

Regards,

surajit



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jmgarg1

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Aug 29, 2012, 5:40:23 AM8/29/12
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Some earlier relevant feedback:      

It is indeed Telosoma cordata a fragrant flowering creeper the flowers of which are called a s kodi sampangi in Tamil”                       

 

“I revisited this plant a couple of days ago, on the 18th, this month. The flowers are not fragrant, nor even the faintest way. I attach latest photos.
Regards,
surajit”

 

“Please see the link  on  T.pallida, wherein   Prof. Gurucharan ji has posted the photographs (ID confirmed):
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!msg/indiantreepix/6SmkEdeOsTk/_9onzeT-ZogJ.   The photographs of the  leaves  posted by you do not match with those.   Therefore, please recheck for ID confirmation or otherwise..” from Mahadeswara ji.

 

"Today once again i recorded some more pics of the same plant, from the same place. Hope these pics will help determine the ID of this species, be it T. pallida or T. cordata or some other. These flowers are never fragrant, as have been checked by some of my students also.
Average scaling of leaves and flowers :-
leaf petiole = 3.2 cm
leaf blade = 7.5 cm x 5 cm
peduncle = 1.1 cm
pedicel = 0.8 cm
Regards,
surajit"



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surajit koley

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Aug 29, 2012, 12:50:29 PM8/29/12
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Thank you very much Sir

Regards,

surajit
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