Justicia procumbens vs Rostellularia crinata syn. Justicia micrantha

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 24, 2009, 7:07:02 AM10/24/09
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Dear members,
See the thread http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/0cd4767bdc7b16ae# for which there has been differening views on Justicia procumbens vs Rostellularia crinata syn. Justicia micrantha
 
I think we have to have a re-look in this matter as earlier such plants has been thought to be Justicia procumbens only as per links:
 
Further Shrikant ji doesn't mention Justicia procumbens & only mentions Rostellularia crinata syn. Justicia micrantha. Why?
 
FOI links on these two species are given below:
 
What is the recognisable difference between Justicia procumbens & Rostellularia crinata syn. Justicia micrantha?
 
Dinesh ji pointed out differences in the thread:
as " I am attempting to put two differences (referring the FOI links you 
have provided): 
1) smooth leaves (*J. procumbens*) ... hairy leaves (*R. crinita*) 
2) terminal spikes, often purplish  (*J. procumbens*) ... terminal as well 
as axillary spikes (*R. crinita*) 
By the way, I have not yet sighted *R. crinita*, so cannot stress on any 
other differences. "  to which I don't seem to agree as leaves are hairy in all the pictures  & terminal as well 
as axillary spikes are seen in J. procumbens at thread http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/c3d45e07e08b3ea7
 
I seek views of all the experts on this group. Do we require outside expert opinion in the matter?
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Rajesh Sachdev

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Oct 24, 2009, 7:20:21 AM10/24/09
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Let us take suggestions from M. Isaac Kehimkar as well. Gargji, an you also mark it to Mr. Isaac.

2009/10/24 J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>



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Dr Santhosh Kumar

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Oct 25, 2009, 6:58:03 AM10/25/09
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Dear All,
 
I am convinced it belongs to Justicia procumbens L. The shape of leaves from oval-oblong and dense spike etc matches well with the type specimen of Justicia procumbens in Linnean herbarium. Secondly arguing with a photograph also simply wasting our time. One has to consider that this is a wide spread species and there would be expecting variations. And finally such enigmatic specimens need to be revisited and to be  collected at least a few specimens for taxonomic investigation.
I leave it for further comments.
 
Santhosh
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J.M. Garg

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Oct 25, 2009, 8:13:41 AM10/25/09
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Thanks, Santhosh ji,
You seemed to have solved the mystery.
 
2009/10/25 Dr Santhosh Kumar <drsanth...@gmail.com>

J.M. Garg

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Oct 25, 2009, 8:15:29 AM10/25/09
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I think Tabish ji & Shrikant ji may pl. have a re-look at the whole thing in their website & the book respectively.

2009/10/25 J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
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