Help me to identify this plant- 110921SA1

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 11, 2021, 2:36:07 AMSep 11
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Segregating posts clubbed due to same subject from Shakir ji:
Location:Kupwara j&k

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Madhusudhan Khanal

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Sep 11, 2021, 7:30:38 AMSep 11
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By the morphology of inflorescence the plant specimen resambles Spiranthes , a member of the Orchidaceae family. Looks like two species of the same genera. 

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 11, 2021, 7:42:38 AMSep 11
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Thanks and welcome, Madhusudhan ji

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 15, 2021, 3:45:02 AM (13 days ago) Sep 15
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

By the morphology of inflorescence the plant specimen resambles Spiranthes , a member of the Orchidaceae family. Looks like two species of the same genera.- from Madhusudhan ji

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Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 15, 2021, 3:54:56 AM (13 days ago) Sep 15
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I see two orchids here, one with pink flowers that seem like Spiranthes sinensis but can't be confirmed without dissection. Same goes to the second which looks like Goodyera marginata. I also need to see the leaves of second plant.
Please remember that we are here to help you, but if you can't provide a detailed picture then our identification could well be very wrong.
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Shakir Ahmad (Amateur Taxonomist)

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Sep 15, 2021, 6:18:04 AM (13 days ago) Sep 15
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Thank you sir... Sure I will, provide details images soon

Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 15, 2021, 7:24:26 AM (13 days ago) Sep 15
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https://phytokeys.pensoft.net/article/19978/
Please check this paper for further details of Spiranthes sinensis.
Pankaj

Shakir Ahmad (Amateur Taxonomist)

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Sep 15, 2021, 10:19:05 AM (13 days ago) Sep 15
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Thank you so much Pankaj sir. 

J.M. Garg

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Sep 20, 2021, 3:09:31 AM (8 days ago) Sep 20
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Hi, Shakir ji,
Awaiting detailed images. 
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Shakir Ahmad (Amateur Taxonomist)

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Sep 20, 2021, 3:38:07 AM (8 days ago) Sep 20
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Yes, I am working on it. 

Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 21, 2021, 3:23:07 AM (7 days ago) Sep 21
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Spiranthes should be S. sinensis, only species reported from Kashmir
Similarly second if Goodyera, should be G. repens, only reported from Kashmir.

Shakir Ahmad (Amateur Taxonomist)

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Sep 21, 2021, 3:37:57 AM (7 days ago) Sep 21
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Thank you so much sir

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 21, 2021, 4:20:22 AM (7 days ago) Sep 21
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Thanks, Singh ji


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On Tue, 21 Sep, 2021, 12:53 pm Gurcharan Singh, <sing...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 21, 2021, 12:25:15 PM (7 days ago) Sep 21
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Garg ji and Shakir ji
As Pankaj ji informs, their paper on Goodyera published in 2019, most specimens identified as G. repens in W. Himalayas are G. marginata, differentiated by  robust stature, bigger leaves with regularly white reticulate markings above and white band along midvein, nearly glabrous and larger flowers, white band along midvein lacking in G. repens, flowers smaller and hairy.

Dr Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 27, 2021, 6:06:36 AM (yesterday) Sep 27
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I am so confused with these leaves. It has no marking.
I need to see more habitat pics with leaves.
Pankaj

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