Story for occasion of 15th anniversary.

Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan

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Dear Garg ji,

I wrote a one page write up on efloraofIndia. If find suitable kindly publish it

Thanks & regards

Dr. Santhan P

Industrial R&D expert, Plant taxonomist

Author of the Book "Trees of our Life" Botany, Chemistry, Medicine

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Apr 25, 2022, 8:47:43 PM4/25/22

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Thanks a lot, Santhan ji. Really well done.
I will publish it shortly with slight corrections.

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Very nicely written article, Santhan ji. Thank you for sharing.

Regards.

Dinesh

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Thanks a lot, Santhan ji. Really well done.
I will publish it shortly with slight corrections.

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Well written. Thanks for sharing.

Just a minor point, 600000 lakh should be 6 lakh.

This number itself amazes me and then the number of members coming from such diverse backgrounds. Sometimes when I chat with people like Tabish sir, I feel surprised by the knowledge he has and of course many other members. Gurcharan sir and Dinesh sir are kind of big bosses (and many others) but just look at their background.....one has literally nothing to do with plants and the other has devoted his whole life and yet both stand together for one cause. My own dad feels a bit reluctant to call me a botanist, maybe because this is not what he had in mind for me. But when I am down, I talk to people like Balkar sir and Nidhan (they are actually younger than me-surprised!!) like my guardians and they are there to listen to what I have to say. Looking at Saroj sir, I imagine if he ever returns home or stays in the forest with his camera all the time. And above all, Garg sir coordinating everything and putting things in one place.

In Carl Linne's book "Species Plantarum......", there is a figure on the first inner page showing God is creating plants, while Linne himself is studying and naming these plants. I think Linne should have been replaced there with Garg sir for efloraofindia.

Happy to be a part of such a group. I have learnt a lot.

Pankaj

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 at 09:24, Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Very nicely written article, Santhan ji. Thank you for sharing.
Regards.
Dinesh

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Thanks a lot, Santhan ji. Really well done.
I will publish it shortly with slight corrections.

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Thanks, Pankaj ji, for putting such nice words. Hope this endeavour leads us all towards a good fulfilling life.

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Well written. Thanks for sharing.
Just a minor point, 600000 lakh should be 6 lakh.
This number itself amazes me and then the number of members coming from such diverse backgrounds. Sometimes when I chat with people like Tabish sir, I feel surprised by the knowledge he has and of course many other members. Gurcharan sir and Dinesh sir are kind of big bosses (and many others) but just look at their background.....one has literally nothing to do with plants and the other has devoted his whole life and yet both stand together for one cause. My own dad feels a bit reluctant to call me a botanist, maybe because this is not what he had in mind for me. But when I am down, I talk to people like Balkar sir and Nidhan (they are actually younger than me-surprised!!) like my guardians and they are there to listen to what I have to say. Looking at Saroj sir, I imagine if he ever returns home or stays in the forest with his camera all the time. And above all, Garg sir coordinating everything and putting things in one place.
In Carl Linne's book "Species Plantarum......", there is a figure on the first inner page showing God is creating plants, while Linne himself is studying and naming these plants. I think Linne should have been replaced there with Garg sir for efloraofindia.
Happy to be a part of such a group. I have learnt a lot.
Pankaj

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 at 09:24, Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Very nicely written article, Santhan ji. Thank you for sharing.
Regards.
Dinesh

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Thanks a lot, Santhan ji. Really well done.
I will publish it shortly with slight corrections.

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Apr 26, 2022, 1:15:26 AM4/26/22

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It is published now and can be seen at
https://efloraofindia.com/2022/04/26/p-santhan-story-of-efloraofindia-to-celebrate-15-years-of-its-completion-on-17-6-22/

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Apr 26, 2022, 1:27:30 AM4/26/22

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Posted it on efloraofindia Facebook account. Also posted on the Indian Flora facebook group, of which I am a member.
I request members to pl. circulate it widely in other groups, on their Facebook/ Instagram/ Twitter account etc., to give wide publicity, to celebrate 15 years of coming completion.

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Fabulously written story. Explained so well

Regards

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Nice writeup Santhan Ji, it is evident that the efforts of Garg Ji and all the stalwarts like Gurcharan Sir, Dinesh Ji, Rawat Ji have brought eFI to such a level that one can be very proud to be a member...!!

Pankaj Ji has aptly presented an analogy, which really suits the role of Garg Ji on eFI...!!

I do agree that I am just a few years behind Pankaj Ji, but thanks to eFI, I am enjoying the status of a senior 😀..

I seriously wish that persons like Pankaj Ji should remain younger, more energetic and active, to carry forward the great work on Floristics of this beautiful planet...

I wish many many more years of activity and solidarity to eFI..

On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 2:16 PM Lalithamba Avadhanam <alali...@gmail.com> wrote:

nice narration; but an important point we have forgotten is many species posted in the site ,kept as to be identified or unidentified species are later identified as new species; without acknowledging them. we have to find a solution to it

On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 1:59 PM Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com> wrote:
I was also surprised when I came to know this Dinesh sir. But I treat them as seniors, obviously they are more experienced and they are teachers!!
Thank you for your kind words as always.
Pankaj

On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 at 13:56, Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Pankaj, I spent a good time thinking about how to thank you for praising me and placing me near Gurucharan ji. Definitely some good deeds in earlier life !! Thank you very much for the nice and kind words.I am surprised that you are senior to Balkar ji and Nidhan ji in terms of age.
Regards.
Dinesh

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And one correction. Images will be around 4 lalk and not 6 lakh.
I will correct a factual mistakes and publish it today.

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They are the young blood of this great family.

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I was also surprised when I came to know this Dinesh sir. But I treat them as seniors, obviously they are more experienced and they are teachers!!

Thank you for your kind words as always.

Pankaj

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nice narration; but an important point we have forgotten is many species posted in the site ,kept as to be identified or unidentified species are later identified as new species; without acknowledging them. we have to find a solution to it

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Garg ji, While going through my Page, I liked this one which I wrote in 2011, but is still true

Why I love Efloraofindia?

I have asked myself many a times why do I feel so involved with efloraofindia group and love interacting it? I found the following answers:

1. I love the group because it has given me a good reason to keep busy after retirement (I felt involved even before formal retirement), so that I don’t have to think about how should I spend my time.

I I love the group because it has given me a reason to restudy, catalogue, digitise my herbarium collection of more than 10,000 specimens, which were lying unattended due to my busy teaching schedule. I would be uploading these as a virtual herbarium.

2. I love this group because it has now given me a zeal and plan to visit as many places as possible. More important, visiting these places in different months so that I am able to find, photograph and have new plants to report in the group. Adding these to my publications would be a bonus for me.

3. I love this group because of our prominent members Garg ji (who in spite of being the owner of the group, has never given the impression of authority), Dinesh ji (the architect of its great advancement), Satish Phadke ji (the great strength of the group), Vijayasankar ji, Shrikant ji, Nayan ji, Nidhan ji, Balkar ji, Prashant ji, Tabish ji, Pravin ji, Devendra ji and Promila ji (the great experts, who don’t allow any plant to go unidentified, and at the same time are great examples of high morality and great humility, the examples to be followed by our youngsters.

4. I love this group for plant lovers Neil ji, Yazdy ji, who own huge collection of plants in their estates and never hesitate to share these. I salute Neil ji for his great knowledge of plants.

5. I love the group for members like Nalini ji, Madhuri ji, Padmini ji, Aarti ji, Rashida ji, Pankaj Oudyia ji, Anand ji, our story telling group, who never miss an occasion to add spice to the information, and never allow the discussion to lose its interest. Mani ji and Antaryamy have added flavor to these interactions by their frequent Hindi couplets.

6. I love the group for its young experts Pankaj ji, Mahadeswara ji, Giby ji, Rajdeo ji, Muthu ji, Smita ji, Ritesh ji, Mayur ji, Manudev ji, Raghu ji, Shantanu ji for their great expertise, love for plants and never hesitating to share their point of view, although maintaining the high standards of communication. They are the future of the group. Snehal ji, I am happy, is learning it fast. Others who interact less frequently, and I am able to recollect their names may please excuse me.

7. I love Tanay (the only person I don’t attach ji) the most, because this young fellow who has such a great knowledge of plants from every part of India/World at this young age has attained the high level of maturity after joining this group.

8. Our new active members Alok ji, Puttaraju ji and others are enriching our database and gradually adjusting to the group norms.

M My request to some young members is not to get tempted to depict the show of authority and knowledge. The members are intelligent enough to understand the capability of each member. These young members have a great future, and I wish that learning from the experience of interacting in the group would bring great success in life. (20.3.11)

You prompted me to write the most important reason why I love this group, here it is:

9. The most important thing why I love this group is that “in spite of some occasional sharp exchanges, members on this group love each other so much that no one is allowed to leave the group easily. There were occasions when some important members like Dinesh ji, Tanay or Rahida ji wanted to leave the group for some unpleasant episode, but all of really saw that they don’t leave. Similarly Pankaj ji left the group temporarily because I wrote some thing to Tanay about the norms the group. Tanay became my best friend (or my favourite) from that day, but Pankaj ji left the group, to rejoin after some time on requests from the members. I was the one who suggested his return to the moderator group again. That is the beauty and strength of the group”. (24.3.11)

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

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SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

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On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 1:26 PM Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Really great job Santhan ji.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh
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On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 2:35 PM Nidhan Singh <nidhans...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nice writeup Santhan Ji, it is evident that the efforts of Garg Ji and all the stalwarts like Gurcharan Sir, Dinesh Ji, Rawat Ji have brought eFI to such a level that one can be very proud to be a member...!!
Pankaj Ji has aptly presented an analogy, which really suits the role of Garg Ji on eFI...!!
I do agree that I am just a few years behind Pankaj Ji, but thanks to eFI, I am enjoying the status of a senior 😀..
I seriously wish that persons like Pankaj Ji should remain younger, more energetic and active, to carry forward the great work on Floristics of this beautiful planet...

I wish many many more years of activity and solidarity to eFI..

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From: Vijayasankar Raman <vijay.b...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr, 2022, 9:51 pm
Subject: Re: [itpmods:16577] Fwd: Story for occasion of 15th anniversary.
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Nice write-up Gurcharan ji! Your words are timeless and very inspiring!

Vijayasankar

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 5:51 AM Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com> wrote:

Respected Gurcharan sir,
Thank you for the lessons of life, your kind words and enlightening us with the knowledge of Indian flora and abroad.
Pankaj
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 at 17:08, Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> wrote:
Here it is Garg ji

Two things changed my life style: a digital camera presented by my son, and my joining indiantreepix in 2007(thanks to Dr. Janamurty who introduced me to this group (from TAXACOM, where I used to send my photographs)). It has changed my lifestyle. I am looking forward to visiting more and more places. I was lucky to plan visits to Western Himalayas along with Nidhan ji, Balkar ji and other members to capture a large number of plants. While in California, I have photographed plants in thousands (but upload only those which are relevant to our Flora), the most recent trip to California and Toronto in 2019 was most productive with capture of nearly 9000 images.

Why I love Efloraofindia?
I have asked myself many times why do I feel so involved with the efloraofindia group and love interacting? I found the following answers:
1. I love the group because it has given me a good reason to keep busy after retirement (I felt involved even before formal retirement), so that I don’t have to think about how I should spend my time.

I I love the group because it has given me a reason to restudy, catalogue, digitise my herbarium collection of more than 10,000 specimens, which were lying unattended due to my busy teaching schedule. I would be uploading these as a virtual herbarium.
2. I love this group because it has now given me a zeal and plan to visit as many places as possible. More important, visiting these places in different months so that I am able to find, photograph and have new plants to report in the group. Adding these to my publications would be a bonus for me.
3. I love this group because of our prominent members Garg ji (who in spite of being the owner of the group, has never given the impression of authority), Dinesh ji (the architect of its great advancement), Satish Phadke ji (the great strength of the group), Vijayasankar ji, Shrikant ji, Nayan ji, Nidhan ji, Balkar ji, Prashant ji, Tabish ji, Pravin ji, Devendra ji and Promila ji (the great experts, who don’t allow any plant to go unidentified, and at the same time are great examples of high morality and great humility, the examples to be followed by our youngsters.

4. I love this group for plant lovers Neil ji, Yazdy ji, who own a huge collection of plants in their estates and never hesitate to share these. I salute Neil ji for his great knowledge of plants.

5.      I love the group for members like Nalini ji, Madhuri ji, Padmini ji, Aarti ji, Rashida ji, Pankaj Oudyia ji, Anand ji, our story telling group, who never miss an occasion to add spice to the information, and never allow the discussion to lose its interest. Mani ji and Antaryamy have added flavor to these interactions by their frequent Hindi couplets.
6.      I love the group for its young experts Pankaj ji, Mahadeswara ji, Giby ji, Rajdeo ji, Muthu ji, Smita ji, Ritesh ji, Mayur ji, Manudev ji, Raghu ji, Shantanu ji for their great expertise, love for plants and never hesitating to share their point of view, although maintaining the high standards of communication. They are the future of the group. Snehal ji, I am happy, is learning it fast. Others who interact less frequently, and I am able to recollect their names may please excuse me.
7.      I love Tanay (the only person I don’t attach ji) the most, because this young fellow who has such a great knowledge of plants from every part of India/World at this young age has attained the high level of maturity after joining this group.
8.   Our new active members Alok ji, Puttaraju ji and others are enriching our database and gradually adjusting to the group norms.

9. The most important thing why I love this group is that “in spite of some occasional sharp exchanges, members of this group love each other so much that no one is allowed to leave the group easily. There were occasions when some important members like Dinesh ji, Tanay or Rashida ji wanted to leave the group for some unpleasant episode, but all of us really saw that they didn't leave. Similarly Pankaj ji left the group temporarily because I wrote something to Tanay about the norms of the group. Tanay became my best friend (or my favourite) from that day, but Pankaj ji left the group, to rejoin after some time on requests from the members. I was the one who suggested his return to the moderator group again. That is the beauty and strength of the group. Incidentally Tanay and Pankaj are only two members in the group for whom I have dropped suffix ji, perhaps being so dear to me.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 1:36 PM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Singh ji,
Will you like to repeat it again for this event?
If so, you can post it again with any modification you want.

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