Another wild shrub for id_ Hyderabad

[Neha Singh]

This beautiful shrub was found growing in the wild in the outskirts of Hyderabad.

Observed in July 2021

 

Shrub Height-4 feet

Terrain was rocky and soil was sandy.

Please help in id.

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Best Regards
Neha Singh

 FORREST

www.forrest-india.org

 

[Mahadeswara]

Cissus species ? C.arnottiana ???

[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

Cissus pallida,

With regards.

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[Neha.FORREST]

Big thanks Paradesi Ji and Mahadeswara ji.

Wild Grape it says..  any part of this plant is edible ? Or do birds feed on it?

[J.M. Garg]

HI, Pardesi ji,

Can it be Cissus woodrowii as I do not see any tendrils? 

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[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

Yes Garg Ji as per the description you're right, but 

in pallida also not common tendrils, morphologically it seems pallida,

need to confirm posted author with checking entire plant profile directly,

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Paradesi ji.
Hi, Neha ji,

May I request you to post high resolution images. Do you see any tendrils?

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[Neha Singh]

Posting High resolution pics, hope they help.

No I did not observe any tendrils Garg ji.

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Neha ji.

These are not high res. images. 

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[Neha Singh]

Ohh. Ok Garg ji, will click pics again. And re-upload.

The plant is on our project site, so no worries.

Should I click  specific pictures of plant parts? Please suggest.

[J.M. Garg]

Focus on the tendrils, if you find any and open flowers.

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[J.M. Garg]

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Cissus species ? C.arnottiana ???- from Mahadeshwara ji

Cissus pallida- from Paradesi ji

Wild Grape it says..  any part of this plant is edible ? Or do birds feed on it?- from Neha ji

Can it be Cissus woodrowii as I do not see any tendrils? - from me

Yes Garg Ji as per the description you're right, but  in pallida also not common tendrils, morphologically it seems pallida,

need to confirm posted author with checking entire plant profile directly,- from Paradesi ji

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Cissus species ? C.arnottiana ???- from Mahadeshwara ji

Cissus pallida- from Paradesi ji

Wild Grape it says..  any part of this plant is edible ? Or do birds feed on it?- from Neha ji

Can it be Cissus woodrowii as I do not see any tendrils? - from me

Yes Garg Ji as per the description you're right, but  in pallida also not common tendrils, morphologically it seems pallida,

need to confirm posted author with checking entire plant profile directly,- from Paradesi ji

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Lalithamba ji

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From: Lalithamba Avadhanam <alali...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Sep, 2021, 12:39 pm
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:393795] Re: Another wild shrub for id_ Hyderabad
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

It is Cissus pallida, but not mentioned in Plantlist etc, (it is distinct and restricted to Deccan area of India)it is erect, cissus glauca is climbing. 

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A.Lalithamba

[Muthu Karthick]

Cissus woodrowii

[J.M. Garg]

Catalogue of Life gives Cissus pallida Steud. as a syn. of Cissus adnata Roxb., while POWO says syn. of Cissus repanda (Wight & Arn.) Vahl

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[J.M. Garg]

As per the keys in Flora of Eastern Karnataka, as it does not have any tendrils, it should be Cissus woodrowii.

However, it also states under description of C.woodrowii "The occasional erect habit and the absence of tendrils in C.pallida sometimes makes that very confusing with the present taxon. In fact, this led Talbot to merge these two in his forest flora under C.pallida. However, his f.182 belongs to C.woodrowii only.'

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Lalithamba ji.

Which source?

Also description in Flora of Bombay Presidency say differently as available at Cissus woodrowii

On Sat, 4 Sept 2021 at 16:52, Lalithamba Avadhanam <alali...@gmail.com> wrote:

C.woodrowii is climbing; and glaucous, sometimes with tendrils, but pallida has no tendrils, upto 2 -3 ft height ; leaves very large upto 30-40 cm in diam.

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J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Lalithamba ji

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On Sat, 4 Sep, 2021, 7:24 pm Lalithamba Avadhanam, <alali...@gmail.com> wrote:

FPM Gamble,(for pallida)

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A.Lalithamba

[S Kasim]

I will go with Cissus woodrowii

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