RED SEED PODS.......8th NOV 2011........ S.S......056

[Plantaholic Sheila]

On a plant id forum I belong to it was suggested that because of the whorled leaves it might be COSTUS.
I am familiar with the flowers, but have never seen it with the seeds.
Is it Costus and if so which one?
Your assistance would be appreciated.
Sheila.
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Date....  16th April 2011. Morning.

Location.... South of LAVA. WEST BENGAL. 

Habitat.....Wild

Plant Habit.....Herb 

Height/Length.....See pic

Leaves.... whorled

Inflorescence Type/ Size.... spike.

Flowers .... ????

Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-.... see pics.

[raju]

Dear Sheila,
I dont think it is Costus. This could be any Zingiberaceae sps. May be
Hedychium sp

Raju

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[Plantaholic Sheila]

Hi Raju,
My thoughts were also Zingiberaceae.
So, I searched long and hard on www, and the best I could find was
Hedychium gardnerianum.
My pics are fairly clear.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=hedychium+gardnerianum&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&rlz=1W1GCNV_en-GB&biw=1271&bih=532&tbm=isch&tbnid=iX-0v1p2KqhMHM:&imgrefurl=http://www.hear.org/starr/images/image/%3Fq%3D040220-0323%26o%3Dplants&docid=9QK7BpbnTSOUwM&imgurl=http://www.hear.org/starr/images/images/plants/full/starr-040220-0323.jpg&w=1224&h=1632&ei=4j2kTvyjOcWs8gPMnITnBQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=422&sig=112741020629889983661&page=2&tbnh=137&tbnw=103&start=12&ndsp=14&ved=1t:429,r:11,s:12&tx=54&ty=102

I suggested this on the other forum and others thought the leaves were
not right.
Which is what brought me here... for local knowledge and expertise.

What do you think?
Cheers
Sheila.
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[Ushadi micromini]

Sheila: was this growing wild?
or in a " garden" ie did it seem planted?

Secondly... in the first picture the leaf head seems to be floating
above the surrounding grass and /or weeds..
I dont see a stem.. its anatomy and the size (two dimensions) seem to
be important for id.. and ruling out costus...

Usha di
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On Nov 8, 9:41 pm, Plantaholic Sheila <luddite1...@talktalk.net>
wrote:

> Hi Raju,
> My thoughts were also Zingiberaceae.
> So, I searched long and hard on www, and the best I could find was
> Hedychium gardnerianum.
> My pics are fairly clear.
>

> http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=hedychium+gardnerianum&um=1&hl=en&sa...

[Plantaholic Sheila]

To the best of my memory it was growing wild. Not planted in a
garden.

I realise the 1st pic is rather odd, making it appear to be floating.
The stem must have been hidden by the leaves.
Sadly these are the only pics I took.
I rather naively thought I would be able to id it with ease once I got
back home.

Thanks for your interest Ushadi.
Sheila.
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On Nov 8, 11:05 pm, Ushadi micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com>
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[Dr Pankaj Kumar]

This should be a Hedychium sp.
Where is Lava in West Bengal btw?
Pankaj



On Nov 9, 8:02 am, Plantaholic Sheila <luddite1...@talktalk.net>
wrote:

[Dr Pankaj Kumar]

may be Hedychium aurantiacum!

Pankaj


On Nov 9, 8:02 am, Plantaholic Sheila <luddite1...@talktalk.net>
wrote:

[Ushadi micromini]

Pankaj... up in the mountains...
here's a link..gives a map to loate..its wiki, so details..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lava,_West_Bengal

by the way we pronounce it LABHA ...
:)

Usha di

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[jmgarg1]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“My thoughts were also Zingiberaceae.

So, I searched long and hard on www, and the best I could find was Hedychium gardnerianum.
My pics are fairly clear.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=hedychium+gardnerianum&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&rlz=1W1GCNV_en-GB&biw=1271&bih=532&tbm=isch&tbnid=iX-0v1p2KqhMHM:&imgrefurl=http://www.hear.org/starr/images/image/%3Fq%3D040220-0323%26o%3Dplants&docid=9QK7BpbnTSOUwM&imgurl=http://www.hear.org/starr/images/images/plants/full/starr-040220-0323.jpg&w=1224&h=1632&ei=4j2kTvyjOcWs8gPMnITnBQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=422&sig=112741020629889983661&page=2&tbnh=137&tbnw=103&start=12&ndsp=14&ved=1t:429,r:11,s:12&tx=54&ty=102

I suggested this on the other forum and others thought the leaves were

not right.
Which is what brought me here... for local knowledge and expertise.

What do you think?
Cheers

Sheila.”              

                

“may be Hedychium aurantiacum!” from Pankaj ji.

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[jmgarg1]

Forwarding again forId confirmation orotherwise please.

Some earlierrelevant feedback:

“My thoughts were also Zingiberaceae.
So, I searched long and hard on www, and the best I could find was Hedychium gardnerianum.
My pics are fairly clear.
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=hedychium+gardnerianum&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&rlz=1W1GCNV_en-GB&biw=1271&bih=532&tbm=isch&tbnid=iX-0v1p2KqhMHM:&imgrefurl=http://www.hear.org/starr/images/image/%3Fq%3D040220-0323%26o%3Dplants&docid=9QK7BpbnTSOUwM&imgurl=http://www.hear.org/starr/images/images/plants/full/starr-040220-0323.jpg&w=1224&h=1632&ei=4j2kTvyjOcWs8gPMnITnBQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=422&sig=112741020629889983661&page=2&tbnh=137&tbnw=103&start=12&ndsp=14&ved=1t:429,r:11,s:12&tx=54&ty=102

I suggested this on the other forum and others thought the leaves were not right.
Which is what brought me here... for local knowledge and expertise.
What do you think?
Cheers

Sheila.”                              

“may be Hedychium aurantiacum!” from Pankaj ji.

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Date: 8 November 2011 19:05
Subject: [efloraofindia:93004] RED SEED PODS.......8th NOV 2011........ S.S......056
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[jmgarg1]

A reply:

"The photo seems to be the fruitung stage of Hedychium gardenarium. In fruiting many spp of Hedychium looks same. Please see whether the lower side in glaucous(white powdery).
The 6th International Symposium will be held in Calicut during 10-13 September 2012. Please publish through your group.<www.gingersymposium12.com> for details.
With best regards
Dr.M.Sabu
Professor
Taxonomy and Floristics Division
Department of Botany
Calicut University
Kerala 673635, India."

 

Thanks a lot, Dr. Sabu.

[PlantaholicSheila]

Many thanks everyone.

As always I appreciate the wealth of knowledge that is to be found here.... and for the willingness of everyone to help out people like me, who's knowledge is so tiny in comparison.

 

J.M. Garg, for bouncing this to the top again

 

Dr Pankas for your suggestion of Hedychuim auranticum.

 

For Usha for providing a link to show everyone where Lava is.

 

and for Dr Sabu for suggesting Hedychium gardenium. Sadly I never looked at the lower side of the leaves.

 

At least everyone is in agreement that it is in Zingiberaceae!

 

Many thanks again.

Sheila

 

[Aarti S. Khale]

Dear Sheila,

I had posted similar pods from Munnar growing wild (Request for ID : 190110-AK-1).

I was very eager to know how the flowers looked like.

Id could not be confirmed.

Closest I came to after a lot of searching was Hedychium gardnerianum, common name Kahili Ginger.

Aarti 

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for ID confirmation

For discussion visit

  https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/suwkknXtAcc  

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Hedychium gardnerianum ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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