Tree For ID : Willow Species : California : 21OCT14 : AK-20

Aarti S. Khale

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Oct 21, 2014, 9:05:37 AM10/21/14

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Tree seen in a park, probably Willow Species, in Sacramento on 7th Oct,14.

Name of this park was Willow Park...hence the suggested id.

Reminded me of Weeping Willow seen in Kashmir.

Aarti

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Aarti S. Khale

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Oct 21, 2014, 12:21:06 PM10/21/14

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Narain Singh Ji,

Thanks for a suggested id.

Waiting for validation.

Regards,

Aarti

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Narain Singh Chauhan <nscha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Salix babylonica ?

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Ushadi Micromini

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Oct 22, 2014, 9:06:23 AM10/22/14

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willow park is a neighborhood in the city

and a small newer park

your tree is in a grassy area

most likely drought tolerant willow

(Weeping willow grows by lakes and standing water mainly)

I thought of Australian willow as most likely choice

usha di

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Aarti S. Khale

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Oct 22, 2014, 10:36:21 AM10/22/14

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Thanks for a possible id Usha Di.

On searching, the Australian Willow has longer leaves than those in my pictures.

Regards,

Aarti

Ushadi Micromini

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Oct 23, 2014, 11:51:40 AM10/23/14

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Aarti:
How can you judge?
In your pictures I dont see reference, like a pen, camera lens lid or a ruler, or failing all those just your own or somebody's borrowed finger..

so how do you know?

also, just the length of leaves dont make a tree

I can show you Kadam trees with 18 to 24 inch long leaves...

but they are still kadam ...

when normal kadam leaf if at the most 6 or 7 inches at the longest...

its a complete package that makes a tree or a plant... even then it may not,

and just like the cannon ball like tree trunk no matter how much one wants to make it cannon ball tree one cant without supporting evidence because there are at least two ( I have pictures of at least one ) trees that have similar "cannon ball" like fruits on the bark of the trunk from exactly similar stalks...

lets be more scrutinizing

and more detail oriented... then and then only true diagnosis can be made...

so if you have more pictures of defining aspects please find them and submit...

wait till you go there again...

it happens, I have hundreds yet to be ided pics from all over the world.

usha di

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Aarti S. Khale

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Oct 23, 2014, 12:26:26 PM10/23/14

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Usha Di,

Thanks for your feedback.

I guess your choice of Australian Willow could be the right one.

Regards,

Aarti

Ushadi Micromini

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Oct 23, 2014, 9:00:40 PM10/23/14

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aarti

or may be not

i had considered a colloquially known "silver leaf willow"

what is it botanically is anybody's guess

so may be next time

usha di

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Aarti S. Khale

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Oct 24, 2014, 12:55:06 AM10/24/14

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Usha Di,

My search lead me to Salix alba, where the underside of leaves is white in color.

Ushadi Micromini

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Oct 24, 2014, 8:26:50 AM10/24/14

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well

silver leaf willow is more like it then

salix alba

after all... usha di

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Aarti S. Khale

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Oct 25, 2014, 6:44:08 AM10/25/14

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Usha Di,

I was able to find pictures of the bark.

Hope these help.

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Ushadi Micromini

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Oct 25, 2014, 1:42:00 PM10/25/14

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good

same tree?

these trees dont live that very long, so why are the horticulture cuts so highly calloused and even have cavities , with perhaps fungi growing ?

the white streaks on the surface next to the furrows (the furrows are ok) not explainable, unless its white lichen infection all over the tree trunk. was this side with white streaks facing north?

Usha di not

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Aarti S. Khale

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Oct 29, 2014, 10:48:02 AM10/29/14

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Usha Di,

So so sorry to have missed replying to this mail.

Frankly, I won't be able to recollect the direction of this bark.

Regards,

Aarti

Ushadi Micromini

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Oct 29, 2014, 11:04:42 AM10/29/14

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that's ok, Aarti.

it was a rhetorical thinking aloud kind of question

You were most likely rushing thru a whirlwind trip, so its ok.

Anyways, directions are not possible for many even where they live all their lives.

usha di

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Aarti S. Khale

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Nov 3, 2014, 1:12:19 AM11/3/14

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Usha Di,

Can this be Salix alba 'Sericea' ?

Common name is Silver Willow as you had suggested initially.

Just a guess.

Our 'Guruji' can have a look if he has missed my post earlier.

Regards,

Aarti

J.M. Garg

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Nov 9, 2014, 11:00:48 AM11/9/14

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:


willow park is a neighborhood in the city and a small newer park your tree is in a grassy area most likely drought tolerant willow (Weeping willow grows by lakes and standing water mainly) I thought of Australian willow as most likely choice usha di



I guess your choice of Australian Willow could be the right one. Regards, Aarti

or may be not



i had considered a colloquially known "silver leaf willow" what is it botanically is anybody's guess so may be next time usha di





My search lead me to Salix alba, where the underside of leaves is white in color. Regards, Aarti



well silver leaf willow is more like it then salix alba after all... usha di



I was able to find pictures of the bark. Hope these help. Regards, Aarti


Can this be Salix alba 'Sericea' ? Common name is Silver Willow as you had suggested initially. Just a guess. Our 'Guruji' can have a look if he has missed my post earlier. Regards, Aarti

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M Swamy

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Nov 9, 2014, 10:47:05 PM11/9/14

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I think it could be Salix alba only. Not sure of the variety. I have seen these trees near Mountain view lake area (California). Unable to trace the photographs taken by me.

Aarti S. Khale

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Nov 10, 2014, 8:32:06 AM11/10/14

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Mahadeswara Ji,

Thanks for your feedback.

The variety was suggested reference to Silver Leaf Willow, suggested by Usha Di.

Regards,

Aarti

J.M. Garg

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Nov 10, 2014, 10:12:24 PM11/10/14

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Thanks a lot, Prof. Dar.

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Date: 10 November 2014 19:28
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:204029] Tree For ID : Willow Species : California : 21OCT14 : AK-20
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Seems to be a Cv of Salix alba, may be sericea? Its pendulous branches also suggest its being

a hybrid between S. alba x S. babylonica.

Prof. G. H. Dar

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Aarti S. Khale

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Nov 10, 2014, 10:42:14 PM11/10/14

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Garg Ji,

Thanks to you and Prof. Dar.

Regards,

Aarti

Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 4, 2021, 9:40:20 AM1/4/21

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Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as Salix alba (USA) ?

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 4, 2021, 9:41:14 AM1/4/21

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Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as Salix alba (USA) ?

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Aarti S. Khale

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Jan 4, 2021, 10:15:39 AM1/4/21

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Gurcharan Ji,

Thanks for forwarding my post.

Regards,

Aarti

Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 13, 2021, 12:50:27 AM11/13/21

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Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as Salix alba (USA) ?

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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 13, 2021, 1:45:29 AM11/13/21

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Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as Salix alba (USA) ?

Group discussion at

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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 13, 2021, 2:56:10 AM11/13/21

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I guess correct ID !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Aarti S. Khale

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Nov 13, 2021, 3:46:02 AM11/13/21

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Gurcharan Ji,

Thanks for forwarding my earlier post from California.

Regards,

Aarti

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Forwarding again for ID
Distributed as Salix alba (USA) ?
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Gurcharan Ji,
Thanks for forwarding my post.
Regards,
Aarti

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Tree seen in a park, probably Willow Species, in Sacramento on 7th Oct,14.
Name of this park was Willow Park...hence the suggested id.
Reminded me of Weeping Willow seen in Kashmir.
Aarti

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