Bauhinia for ID AK

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arvind kadus

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Sep 21, 2010, 11:06:09 AM9/21/10
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Here is a Bauhinia showned by AjinkyaJi in Pune.Kindly do the ID.
Dr.Kadus Arvind,Pune.

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Dinesh Valke

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Sep 21, 2010, 11:11:22 AM9/21/10
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Arvind ji ... most probably Hong Kong Orchid tree .. Bauhinia x blakeana, also known as Blake's bauhinia ... please wait for comment(s).
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ajinkya gadave

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Sep 21, 2010, 11:16:41 AM9/21/10
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yes B.blakeana from me too.

arvind kadus

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Sep 21, 2010, 11:44:13 AM9/21/10
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Ajinkya tumhi tar B.blakean ch mhanala hotat, confirmation sathi post kela ahe.
Dinesh Ji B.veriagata che flowers suddha same ahet. taxonomically diff. sangata yeil kay? Any body else can.
Dr.Kadus Arvind,Pune

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Dinesh Valke

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Sep 21, 2010, 12:58:42 PM9/21/10
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Arvind ji ... attempting to put some visual differences, they too may need validation !!

Blake's bauhinia has large leaves compared to B. variegata or B. purpurea ... PLUS richer in green colour, with a shine.

All the petals have striking pink colour, the central large petal being the most dark of all.
The veins on petals are brighter (white-added), contrary to darker veins in the other bauhinias ... my own thought.

Colour of B. variegata ranges from white to purple.

Please wait for easier difference(s).

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Padmini Raghavan

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Sep 21, 2010, 2:35:01 PM9/21/10
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I am adding my pics of B blakeana in the hope that they will aid comparison. (However I do not notice any shine in the leaves.)
The flowers are very fragrant and a lovely sight.
Regards,
Padmini Raghavan.

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Dinesh Valke

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Sep 21, 2010, 3:01:44 PM9/21/10
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Many thanks Padmini ji for validating ... agreed there is no shine on the leaves.
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Kenneth Greby

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Sep 21, 2010, 5:54:46 PM9/21/10
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That would be my first guess as well. If any seed pods present, then no, as it is a sterile hybrid.

Regards--
Ken.



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Kenneth Greby

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Sep 21, 2010, 5:55:46 PM9/21/10
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This looks like B. purpurea to me.

Regards--
Ken.



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Subject: [efloraofindia:47816] Bauhinia for ID AK

Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 21, 2010, 6:02:16 PM9/21/10
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Perhaps this should help

B. blakeana                                                    B. purpurea                                       B. variegata
Early flowering, Nov-Dec. in Delhi                      Early flowering Oct-Nov. in Delhi         Late flowering, Feb-March in Delhi
Leaves 15-20 cm across, cleft 14-1/3                 Leaves 10-15 cm across, cleft 1/2      Leaves 10-15 cm across, cleft 1/3
Fls. in long racemes                                         Fls. in short racemes                        Fls. in short racemes
Flowers 12-15 cm across, appear with leaves     Flowers 10-12 cm across, with leaves  Flowers 10-12 cm across, after leaves fall
Petals broad, overlapping,                                 Petals narrow, non-overlapping            Petals broad, overlapping
Petals rose-purple, veins whitish                        Petals pink, whitish in centre              Petals white with purplish veins, upper darker
Stamens 5                                                      Stamens 3                                         Stamens 5  
Pod not produced                                            Pod 12-25 cm long, 2-2.5 cm thick       Pod 15-25 cm long, 1.5-2 cm thick



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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 21, 2010, 6:30:45 PM9/21/10
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I think there should be no doubt about both sets of plants (uploaded by Arvind ji and Padmini ji). Both belong to B. x blakeana. Agreed that sometimes the flower colour in B. purpurea may look similar, but that species has three stamens, and petals are much narrower. B. variegata has broader petals and five stamens, all nearly of the same length. B. x blakeana also has five stamens, of which three are longer and two shorter. This characteristic feature can be seen in both sets of photographs.



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tanay bose

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Sep 21, 2010, 10:30:40 PM9/21/10
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I think Hongkong orchid but not sure about sterile hybrid though many plants have sterile hybrids
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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 21, 2010, 10:42:40 PM9/21/10
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Yes B. x blakeana, 3 long stamens and two short stamens.

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Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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Kenneth Greby

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Sep 21, 2010, 10:58:31 PM9/21/10
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This is B. purpurea. (Photo should probably be renamed to avoid confusion with B. x blakeana of same photo name).

Regards--
Ken.



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Dinesh Valke

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Sep 22, 2010, 12:14:57 AM9/22/10
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... agreeing with Ken on this Bauhonia veriagata5A.JPG being Bauhinia purpurea.

Regards.

Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 22, 2010, 12:40:17 PM9/22/10
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Enlarged central portion of Bauhonia variegata5A.jpg to clearly show three long and two short stamens, characteristic of B. x blakeana


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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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Bauhonia veriagata5A.JPG

Kenneth Greby

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Sep 22, 2010, 12:51:57 PM9/22/10
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Thanks for the enlargement, Dr. Singh. I concur.

Regards--
Ken.


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Padmini Raghavan

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Sep 23, 2010, 2:16:04 PM9/23/10
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Dr. Mahadeshwaraswamy had also mentioned  a difference in the cut section of the buds;
triangular in one and circular in the other.
 Rgds,
Padmini.

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