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J.M. Garg

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Oct 13, 2022, 6:28:51 AM10/13/22
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location kutch gujarat
date 7/10/2022
local name ubhi shankhavali


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Convolvulus stocksii, .jpeg

Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 13, 2022, 6:54:58 AM10/13/22
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Convolvulus rottlerianus Choisy !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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J.M. Garg

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Oct 13, 2022, 11:04:51 AM10/13/22
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Saroj ji is always first to come up with I'd.
Maybe as per images at https://efloraofindia.com/2021/08/24/convolvulus-rottlerianus/
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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 13, 2022, 12:28:04 PM10/13/22
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Not always Mr. Garg 😉
Thank you .

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Nov 5, 2022, 10:58:17 AM11/5/22
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These are the keys from Flora of Pakistan:
18 (17) Sepals semi-membranous, glabrous 18 Convolvulus stocksii
Sepals tomentose to pilose, not membranous (19)    
19 (18) Flowers 4-10, bracts 12 mm long, ovate. Stigma cylindrical. Leaves sub-petiolate, the upper auriculate, lower attenuate 16 Convolvulus glomeratus
+Flowers 1-3, bracts 5-8 mm long, lanceolate to oblanceolate. Stigma filiform. Leaves sessile, attenuate (20)   
20 (19) Inner sepals ovate to ovate-lanceolate, acuminate. Style as long as the stigma 14 Convolvulus pilosellifolius
+Inner sepals obovate, caudate. Style 1.5-2 times the length of stigma 17 Convolvulus rottlerianus

Close up details of flowers and sepals will help in deciding the species among these two. Pl. send. 

From perusal of specimens at POWO, it appears more closer to Convolvulus rottlerianus subsp. stocksii (Boiss.) J.R.I.Wood & Scotland (POWO specimen) than Convolvulus rottlerianus subsp. rottlerianus (POWO specimen).

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Kiratsinh Zala

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Nov 6, 2022, 5:20:23 AM11/6/22
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Thanks a lot. 

J.M. Garg

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Nov 6, 2022, 7:45:47 PM11/6/22
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Hi, Kirat ji,
Can you post the details?

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J.M. Garg

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Nov 8, 2022, 11:44:46 PM11/8/22
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Like close ups of flowers and sepals.
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 14, 2022, 12:02:53 AM11/14/22
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Awaiting close up details.
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 14, 2022, 3:06:31 AM11/14/22
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This khadi  shankhavali  does not have any other place in Gujarat, it is only in Kutch district, Jai Krishna Indraji has given its details in his botanical book kachh svasthan ni vanaspati   which is Gujrat Edison.


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J.M. Garg

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Nov 15, 2022, 4:19:15 AM11/15/22
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Thanks a lot, Kirat ji

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more picture of Convolvulus rottlerianus


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J.M. Garg

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Nov 15, 2022, 9:12:51 AM11/15/22
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Thanks, Kirat ji

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J.M. Garg

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Nov 15, 2022, 9:13:12 AM11/15/22
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Thanks, Kirat ji


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On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 3:14 PM Kiratsinh Zala <zalaki...@gmail.com> wrote:
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J.M. Garg

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Dec 8, 2022, 1:28:00 AM12/8/22
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But it is reported from Pakistan only as per POWO (Wood, J.R.I., Williams, B.R.M., Mitchell, T.C., Carine, M.A., Harris, D.J. & Scotland, R.W. (2015). A foundation monograph of Convolvulus (Convolvulaceae). PhytoKeys 51: 1-282.).
So I keep it as Convolvulus rottlerianus subsp. rottlerianus only in the absence of close up details.
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Saroj Kasaju

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