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surajit koley

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Jan 20, 2013, 12:41:59 PM1/20/13
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Sir,

This looks like the one in FoI.

Species : UNKNOWN
H & H : ornamental in 200 sq. ft. garden, nurtured by local youth of a rural club
Date : 20-01-13
Place : Bandipur (Hooghly)

Thank you,

Regards,

surajit

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Ritesh Kumar Choudhary

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Jan 20, 2013, 8:12:53 PM1/20/13
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Salvia splendens Sellow ex Roem. & Schult. (Lamiaceae)


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Ritesh.

surajit koley

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Jan 20, 2013, 8:47:38 PM1/20/13
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Good morning Ritesh Ji
Thank you very much for the full ID.

Regards,
surajit


2013/1/21 Ritesh Kumar Choudhary <rites...@gmail.com>

Salvia splendens Sellow ex Roem. & Schult. (Lamiaceae)


Regards,
Ritesh.

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Satish Phadke

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Jan 21, 2013, 9:58:00 AM1/21/13
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When I saw your post I started thinking about it Obviously as Scarlet sage.
Two species are called as that.
Then I searched
Salvia splendens vs. salvia coccinea in Google.
Following link describes the difference:
http://www.homeandgardenideas.com/gardening/herbs/care/how-grow-scarlet-sage
The leaf shape
Lance like in S. splendens
Triangular in S. coccinea
The above pictures go in favour of S.coccinea.
Will wait for others to comment
Dr Satish Phadke


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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 21, 2013, 11:13:24 AM1/21/13
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I think it is S. splendens, the flowers are smaller in S. cocinea 

S. splendens: leaves 5-9 cm long, triangular-ovate, acuminate, flowers 4-5 cm long
S. coccinea: leaves 2.5-5 cm long; acute, ovate, flowers 2-2.5 cm long.

Here is my upload from Delhi of S. coccinea


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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 21, 2013, 11:17:48 AM1/21/13
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Sorry I wrote leaf shape reversed. Here is correct one:

I think it is S. splendens, the flowers are smaller in S. cocinea 

S. splendens: leaves 5-9 cm long, ovate, acuminate, flowers 4-5 cm long
S. coccinea: leaves 2.5-5 cm long; acute, trianglar-ovate, flowers 2-2.5 cm long.

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surajit koley

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Jan 21, 2013, 12:21:09 PM1/21/13
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Gurcharan Sir, Satish Sir, Ritesh Ji,

Thank you all for this discussion, now i come to know that there are two similar looking plants from the same genus.

The height of this plant is about 3 ft, like that of S. coccinea as per Satish Sir's link - http://www.homeandgardenideas.com/gardening/herbs/care/how-grow-scarlet-sage.

But, i think, the leaf size, apex and flower size conform to keys provided by Gurcharan Sir.

Regards,

surajit

Ritesh Kumar Choudhary

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Jan 21, 2013, 7:32:34 PM1/21/13
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Thanks to Gurucharan sir for providing a nice key. Thanks Satish sir and Surajit ji for digging details of the plant.

Best regards,
Ritesh.

surajit koley

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Jan 21, 2013, 9:20:08 PM1/21/13
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Good morning Ritesh Ji

Digging into Salvia gives more confusing data -
I think this plant is Salvia splendens Ker Gawler of FoC, well, after this elaborate discussion of-course!

Thank you,

Regards,

surajit



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Dr Pankaj Kumar

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Jan 21, 2013, 9:38:57 PM1/21/13
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This is surely Salvia splendens.
coccinea is very different.
One may not even be able to differentiate because hybrids of splendens are also available.
Pankaj

surajit koley

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Jan 21, 2013, 9:44:31 PM1/21/13
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Good morning Pankaj Ji

Thank you very much, i noted the "identification credit" in FoI.

Regards,

surajit


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Ritesh Kumar Choudhary

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Jan 21, 2013, 9:45:16 PM1/21/13
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Thanks for digging more dear Surajit ji,

But Salvia splendens Ker Gawler is a superfluous/illegitimate name. Please check for the following link from Tropicos

The accepted name for your plant should be Salvia splendens Sellow ex Roem. & Schult as maintained by GRIN/The Plant List/Catalogue of Life.

Best regards,
Ritesh.

surajit koley

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Jan 21, 2013, 9:52:21 PM1/21/13
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Thank you once again Ritesh Ji, it is Salvia splendens Sellow ex Roem. & Schult., and GRIN also referred to FoC.

Regards,

surajit

Ritesh Kumar Choudhary

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Jan 21, 2013, 9:54:52 PM1/21/13
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That's funny! :-)

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Ritesh.

surajit koley

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Jan 21, 2013, 9:56:19 PM1/21/13
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In a hurry for my school.... have a very nice day.... :)

Regards,

surajit

Ritesh Kumar Choudhary

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Jan 21, 2013, 9:57:19 PM1/21/13
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Have a wonderful day to u too Surajit ji.

Regards,
Ritesh.

surajit koley

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Jan 19, 2015, 12:31:37 PM1/19/15
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A new set recorded today.
Thank you
Regards

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Ushadi Micromini

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Jan 20, 2015, 12:14:51 AM1/20/15
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Yes Gurucharanji had diagnosed it as Salvia splendens then

usha di

differential diagnosis was interesting:

your case your case 2013
Gurcharaji's S. cocciniea

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surajit koley

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Jan 20, 2015, 11:16:00 AM1/20/15
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Thank you Didi, again.
Regards
surajit

surajit koley

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Jan 24, 2015, 11:28:51 AM1/24/15
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I think I ma the first in the group to show this.
Thank you
Regards

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