Stephania japonica var. discolor (Blume) Forman? Hooghly 17-01-13 sk1

[surajit koley]

Sir,

While "Bengal Plants" (and "F. B. I.") describes only one species, Stephania hernandifolia Wall. (Cissampelos pareira L. in F. B. I.), "Flora Indica" describes six Cissampelos species.

Could this be Cissampelos hernandifolia Willd. of F. I. iii. 842 = Stephania japonica var. discolor (Blume) Forman of FoC?

Species : Stephania japonica var. discolor (Blume) Forman?

H & H : wild climber/twiner in roadside hedges

Date : 16/1/13

Place : Hooghly

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Regards,

surajit

[Janani Eswar]

Surajit ji,

In the last photo, is that the seeds!? Very intriguing...

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[Satish Phadke]

The Plant List and GRIN
Both consider Stephania and Cissampelos as separate genera.
Both belong to Menispermaceae though.
I am confused....

Dr Satish Phadke

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[surajit koley]

Janani Ji,

I thought those were seeds, each fruit having one, but literature (also FoC) says that those are endocarp (stone)!

Thank you very much for the eye-opening comment.

Regards,

surajit

[surajit koley]

Satish Sir,

Thank you very much for the mail, i made two grave mistakes, 1) It is not Cissampelos pareira L., the entry in F. B. I. is Stephania hernandifolia Walp., same as in "Bengal Plants", and 2) it is "Walp.", not "Wall.".

However, i copy entry in "Bengal Plants" :-

Stephania hernandifolia Walp.; F. B. I. i. 103; E. D. S. 2794. Cissampelos hernandifolia F. I. iii. 842.

Regards,

surajit

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

In the last photo, is that the seeds!? Very intriguing...

-- Janani Eswar

The Plant List and GRIN Both consider Stephania and Cissampelos as separate genera. Both belong to Menispermaceae though. I am confused.... Dr Satish Phadke

I thought those were seeds, each fruit having one, but literature (also FoC) says that those are endocarp (stone)! Thank you very much for the eye-opening comment. Regards, surajit

Thank you very much for the mail, i made two grave mistakes, 1) It is not Cissampelos pareira L., the entry in F. B. I. is Stephania hernandifolia Walp., same as in "Bengal Plants", and 2) it is "Walp.", not "Wall.". However, i copy entry in "Bengal Plants" :- Stephania hernandifolia Walp.; F. B. I. i. 103; E. D. S. 2794. Cissampelos hernandifolia F. I. iii. 842. Regards, surajit

efi site link for the species:  https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/menispermaceae/stephania/stephania-japonica-var-discolor

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[surajit koley]

Thank you Garg Sir for resurfacing.

FoC informs :-

(i) leaf blade ca. as long as wide, abaxial surface glaucous -------- S. japonica

(ii) leaf blade longer than wide, abaxial surface usually green ------ S. longa

I attach new set of photos to show that its leaf-blade are slightly longer than wide.

Yet it is Stephania japonica var. discolor (Blume) Forman, i think, for  :-

1. petiole is much longer than the those in Stephania longa Loureiro
2. leaf blade and venation do not match with the above
3. the perforation in the seed/endocarp rather centrally placed and narrower than Stephania longa Loureiro

Thank you,

Regards,

surajit