180919TH1: Photograph for Identification

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 17, 2019, 11:09:05 PM9/17/19
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 00:03
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Please help me to identify this plant
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J.M. Garg

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Sep 25, 2019, 7:00:51 AM9/25/19
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I think difficult to id with vegetative parts.
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Tarikul Hasan

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Sep 25, 2019, 11:45:01 AM9/25/19
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Yes, I agree. But except this I have no picture. Leaf of this plant use in the treatment of broken bone. 

ushadi

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Sep 25, 2019, 7:17:49 PM9/25/19
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so what is the ethnobotanical or ayurvedic or herbabal medicine name
or chalti bhasa ka naam?

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drmthasan

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Sep 26, 2019, 7:38:41 AM9/26/19
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Locally called "Vutraj" 

ushadi

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Sep 26, 2019, 4:20:37 PM9/26/19
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wow
you are from Natorer bonolata sen country?

so I take it its from a local dialect?
which dialect would that be?

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drmthasan

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Sep 29, 2019, 1:04:26 PM9/29/19
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”ভূতরাজ” 
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Dr Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 30, 2019, 4:43:40 AM9/30/19
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Does it look like Mitragyna? or any other Rubiaceae.

drmthasan

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Oct 1, 2019, 12:53:50 PM10/1/19
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Yes it looks like Mitrangyna and it may be from Rubiaceae family but I am not sure.
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J.M. Garg

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Oct 8, 2019, 12:21:38 AM10/8/19
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Can it be some Ficus ?

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 9, 2019, 5:34:34 AM10/9/19
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Thanks a lot, Sudhakar ji.

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No sir, it may not be Ficus

J.M. Garg

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Nov 18, 2019, 11:11:31 PM11/18/19
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Thanks, Tarikul ji.

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I have photograph of this plant. It could be helpful for identification purposes. Today I got it. Please help me.
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 22, 2019, 10:55:19 AM11/22/19
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Thanks, Tarikul ji.

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J.M. Garg

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Nov 22, 2019, 10:55:28 AM11/22/19
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Thanks, Tarikul ji.

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ushadi

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Nov 22, 2019, 4:00:58 PM11/22/19
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full plant photos

how tall

was it planted
ore
is it weedy, growing on its own.?

we have a format for submission
please follow that

its link was sent to you by whoever approved of your membership, in their welcome email..

thanks

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drmthasan

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Nov 23, 2019, 9:03:55 AM11/23/19
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Thank you, Please pardone me,  next time I must follow the format.
These trees are planted by the Kabiris in their homes and used to attach broken bones. It will not be more than 5 or 6 feet high and is kind of a shrub. ( full Plants photo is attached)
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Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Nov 23, 2019, 10:50:21 AM11/23/19
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Urticaceae family member,
Myriocarpa sp,
Could be Myriocarpa stipitata,
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ushadi

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Nov 23, 2019, 2:48:41 PM11/23/19
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thanks tmhasan saab

what or who are Kabiris
and what state are they located

any ethnobotanical study published about them?

Regards
Ushadi


drmthasan

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Nov 24, 2019, 11:06:22 AM11/24/19
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Thank you. The kaviraj means local herbal practitioner and this is from Natore, Bangladesh. I have not found any article about them.

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ushadi

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Nov 25, 2019, 3:01:22 AM11/25/19
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thank you

but this is a plant described  in old travelogues of ships that circumnavigated the world
such as

The Botany of the Voyage of H.M.S. Sulphur. under Captain Ed. Belcher

as being in tropical america
and there is /are ethnobotany mentions in MAYAN and Brazilian ethnobotany ...
you can find them on the net.


1:  how did it come to NATORE????
2:  that Kabiraj s of bangladesh determine that it is useful in bone healing???

i can not find any ethnobotany research for this plant in bone healing anywhere!
or in bangladesh !!

there are a few papers about possibility of cancer therapy....
and those are not very supportable data either


so this is a mystery to me.

will need more research in Bengali kabiraji books....
do you have access to them ?
if you do please share...

thanks


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Ushadi


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J.M. Garg

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Dec 6, 2019, 7:29:57 AM12/6/19
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Thanks, Paradesi ji, for the family id as Urticaceae.
To me looks different from Myriocarpa stipitata as per specimens at https://herbariovaa.org/taxa/index.php?taxon=Myriocarpa%20stipitata

Hi, Tarikul ji,
Is any Myriocarpa listed in Bangladesh ?
Can you check the keys from Flora of Bhutan at Urticaceae and let us know the genus.

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J.M. Garg

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Dec 6, 2019, 7:34:41 AM12/6/19
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J.M. Garg

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Dec 6, 2019, 10:12:29 PM12/6/19
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Thanks, Tarikul ji.

On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 at 22:35, Tarikul Hasan <drmt...@gmail.com> wrote:
So far I know  Myriocarpa is not listed in bangladesh.

J.M. Garg

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Dec 20, 2019, 2:43:42 AM12/20/19
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I think keys in flora of Bhutan may help.
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dr.rakesh Singh

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Dec 21, 2019, 11:14:25 AM12/21/19
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Stigma reminds me of Trema orientalis , and Ricinus communis . Something else is also lurking in back of mind ... bigger plants in Euphorbiaceae . 

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Tarikul Hasan

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Dec 23, 2019, 9:23:16 AM12/23/19
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Ok, thanks. 

Aarti S. Khale

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Dec 24, 2019, 6:43:19 AM12/24/19
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Garg Ji, Rakesh Ji, Paradesi Ji,
I can see white buds in the picture of the whole plant, on the left side, at the bottom.
Reminds me of Rubiaceae.
Regards,
Aarti 

Dinesh Valke

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Dec 24, 2019, 6:56:07 AM12/24/19
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Aarti ji, those, if I am not mistaking, belong to another plant. The leaves look different.
Regards.
Dinesh

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Aarti S. Khale

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Dec 24, 2019, 8:15:50 AM12/24/19
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Dinesh Ji,
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
Regards,
Aarti

J.M. Garg

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Jan 2, 2020, 7:37:06 AM1/2/20
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Tried keys in Flora of Bhutan and reached Procris
But could not find a match.

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 17, 2021, 12:05:52 AM1/17/21
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Forwarding again for ID
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Gurcharan Singh

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Forwarding again for ID
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Gurcharan Singh

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Forwarding again




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Aug 8, 2022, 10:33:21 AM8/8/22
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For id from Bangladesh.

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Plantaholic Sheila.

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Aug 8, 2022, 1:33:16 PM8/8/22
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Forgive me for having a go...Might it be  Dendrocnide sinuata?



Which plant is used for bone fracture?
Barleria prionitis, Cissus quadrangularis, Dendrocnide sinuata, Justicia gendarussa and Zingiber officinale have been documented to be used in bone fracture and bone injuries treatment. Leaf and stem of these plants used only externally.
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Forgive me for having a go...Might it be  Dendrocnide sinuata?

J.M. Garg

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Thanks, Sheila ji

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navendu page

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Aug 9, 2022, 1:12:39 AM8/9/22
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Dendrocnide sinuata

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J.M. Garg

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Thanks, Sheila ji

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Thank you for your mail and identification.


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