LONICERA sp. Bergen Botanical Garden.,,22nd July 2023

33 views
Skip to first unread message

PlantaholicSheila

unread,
Aug 11, 2023, 12:51:42 PM8/11/23
to eFloraofIndia
Found in Bergen Botanical gardens.
Decided it was a very cute Lonicera sp so wrote to the gardens for help to pin it down.
...............................................................................................
Just had this reply...
"I checked the specimen. It was received at one of our other gardens in 1995, supposedly wild collected and only determined as ”Lonicera sp.”, unfortunately. The data in our database on this particulkar specimen is rather weird, and not to be trusted. I believe it to have been collected in Kumaon in Uttar Pradesh (India), but the record say something else.

I regret that this is the extent of our current information on this specimen."

Best wishes, and do keep nurturing your plant-dependency. Thanks for writing!
/Torsten
........................................................
Can any one here help further?
Thank you.
Sheila.LONICERA  XXX 22-07-2023 16-24-24.JPGLONICERA  XXX 22-07-2023 16-25-37.JPGLONICERA  XXX 22-07-2023 16-25-58.JPGLONICERA  XXX 22-07-2023 16-24-36.JPG

PlantaholicSheila

unread,
Aug 12, 2023, 3:20:16 AM8/12/23
to eFloraofIndia
BUMP.....I fear my title has put you off...this plant is from India!

Saroj Kasaju

unread,
Aug 12, 2023, 5:51:28 AM8/12/23
to indian...@googlegroups.com, Sheila Sadd, J.M. Garg
Lonicera obovata Royle

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/330b9e9c-e1cc-4b36-9265-25a339d83becn%40googlegroups.com.

PlantaholicSheila

unread,
Aug 12, 2023, 10:14:54 AM8/12/23
to eFloraofIndia
Saroj Kasaju....I am thrilled to get an answer...that looks just perfect.
Your help is very much appreciated.
Thank you.
I was sure someone here would help me!
Warmest wishes Sheila.

Saroj Kasaju

unread,
Aug 12, 2023, 10:49:32 AM8/12/23
to indian...@googlegroups.com, Sheila Sadd, J.M. Garg
My pleasure !
Thank you Sheila !

Saroj Kasaju


PlantaholicSheila

unread,
Aug 14, 2023, 4:07:19 PM8/14/23
to eFloraofIndia
Greetings all.
Updated info.
My lovely expert in Bergen Norway ...  Lars Torsten Eriksson has come back to me.
The berry is red!
This completely rules out  Lonicera obovata...as that has a  blueberry.
See 2nd pic in link below.


Quote Lars.....Our specimen seems to be Lonicera angustifolia var. myrtillus, a similar species with red berries.
 See attached image from today. (The old flora uses the synonym Lonicera parvifolia.)  LONICERA  ANGUSTIFOLIA  VAR  MYRTILLUS  via  lars 14-08-2023 10-27-54.jpg

Saroj Kasaju

unread,
Aug 15, 2023, 1:03:59 AM8/15/23
to indian...@googlegroups.com, Sheila Sadd, J.M. Garg
Both are from the same plant and from UP, India ?
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


PlantaholicSheila

unread,
Aug 16, 2023, 6:21:56 PM8/16/23
to eFloraofIndia
Thank you.
I am  very confused.
This is getting a bit technical for me.

Most sites say Lonicera obovatus has blue berries.
Found this link which states Lonicera obovatus berries are red.
In the link it even states exactly where it was found. Most interesting!


On the Kew site for Lonicera angustifolia var. myrtillus..it shows the red berry but  Lonicera obovatus is not listed as a synonym


Quote from link above....
"Homotypic Synonyms Heterotypic Synonyms

Saroj Kasaju

unread,
Aug 17, 2023, 3:02:20 AM8/17/23
to indian...@googlegroups.com, Sheila Sadd, J.M. Garg

J.M. Garg

unread,
Sep 2, 2023, 2:59:56 AM9/2/23
to Saroj Kasaju, indian...@googlegroups.com, Sheila Sadd
Yes, I agree as per images and details at 
https://efloraofindia.com/2012/08/19/lonicera-myrtillus/
--
With regards,
J.M.Garg

PlantaholicSheila

unread,
Sep 2, 2023, 3:34:31 AM9/2/23
to eFloraofIndia
Thank you sir.
Most interesting.
I see now it is no longer even called Lonicera but Devendraea myrtillus!!!
Never heard of Devendraea before.
No wonder amateurs like me struggle.

Saroj Kasaju

unread,
Sep 2, 2023, 4:07:04 AM9/2/23
to indian...@googlegroups.com, J.M. Garg, Sheila Sadd

Thank you Mr. Garg for the validation !

Saroj Kasaju


Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages