SK 3577 12 July 2022

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 12, 2022, 6:41:18 AM7/12/22

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Dear Members,

Location: Surkhet, West Nepal
Altitude: 690m.
Date: 26 April 2022
Habit : Wild

Capparis spinosa L. ??

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Saroj Kasaju

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Thank you.

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Jul 12, 2022, 8:44:37 PM7/12/22

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Thanks, Saroj ji, for the superb presentation.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 12, 2022, 10:11:41 PM7/12/22

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Thank you Mr. Garg . ID ok ?

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J.M. Garg

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Jul 18, 2022, 11:50:22 AM7/18/22

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Yes, it appears so.

The Checklist of Nepal lists two var.

However, POWO gives distribution of only one (Capparis spinosa var. himalayensis (Jafri) Jacobs) in Nepal:

https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77145960-1

https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77228059-1

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 18, 2022, 12:08:55 PM7/18/22

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Thank you Mr. Garg. But I found POWO,GBIF and Eflora showing distribution for Nepal and

also in the book.

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J.M. Garg

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Jul 23, 2022, 2:00:29 AM7/23/22

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No distribution for Capparis spinosa subsp. spinosa as per POWO.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 24, 2022, 4:21:12 AM7/24/22

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http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200009171

and the Book of Karnali has listed Capparis spinosa L.

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jul 24, 2022, 4:42:01 AM7/24/22

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These are not uptodate. POWO is generally most updated.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 24, 2022, 7:59:22 AM7/24/22

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I mean Capparis spinosa L. (not the Capparis spinosa subsp. spinosa) has got distribution in Nepal

according to POWO and GBIF and as well in the journal published by RBGE Dr. Colin Pendry.

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Saroj Kasaju

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J.M. Garg

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Jul 24, 2022, 8:22:12 AM7/24/22

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When you say Capparis spinosa L., it means Captains spinosa subsp. spinosa only and not any other subspecies or variety.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 24, 2022, 11:11:17 AM7/24/22

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I am still confused:

1. POWO showing distribution of Capparis spinosa L. for Nepal and Capparis spinosa subsp. spinosa as subsp.(Infraspecies) showing no distribution for Nepal.

2. GBIF showing distribution of Capparis spinosa L. for Nepal and Capparis spinosa subsp. spinosa as subsp.(Immediate children) showing no distribution for Nepal.

3. And, of course , the report from Dr. Colin Pendry showing distribution of Capparis spinosa L. for Nepal.

4. And eflora Nepal showing distribution of Capparis spinosa L. and Capparis spinosa subsp. spinosa for Nepal.

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Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jul 24, 2022, 11:33:17 AM7/24/22

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POWO shows distribution of Capparis spinosa L. (including all the 12 subspecies and varieties) for Nepal.

For distribution of Capparis spinosa subsp. spinosa, you have to refer to this page of POWO.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 24, 2022, 11:36:28 AM7/24/22

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I have already mentioned that POWO shows no distribution of Capparis spinosa subsp. spinosa for Nepal.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 24, 2022, 11:40:00 AM7/24/22

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One more link Mr. Garg !

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwis8uuj7ZH5AhWySGwGHVSLC_4QFnoECBYQAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdata.rbge.org.uk%2Fpublications%2FFloraofNepal%2Flibrary%2FCapparaceae%2F1&usg=AOvVaw0BSj5HNF1e8Stm4Zz4me6o

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Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jul 24, 2022, 11:45:48 AM7/24/22

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Pl. go through:
A taxonomic revision of the Capparis spinosa group (Capparaceae) from the Mediterraneanto Central Asia Phytotaxa 174 (1): 001–024 (2014) by SILVIO FICI

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 24, 2022, 11:54:16 AM7/24/22

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This also shows distribution of both Capparis spinosa L. and Capparis spinosa subsp. spinosa for Nepal.

Branches spreading or erect, multiramified; stipules conspicuous and thorny, mostly recurved, decurrent at the base; Mediterra- nean Region, Middle East to China and Nepal............................................................................................................. subsp. spinosa

And Flora of Nepal is a government of Nepal project, for sp. in Nepal we have to follow this.

The main thing is which is this sp. among so many sp., subsp. and var.??

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Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jul 24, 2022, 12:02:12 PM7/24/22

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They have further divided Capparis spinosa subsp. spinosa into 7 varieties.
Capparis spinosa subsp. spinosa var. spinosa does not have distribution in Nepal.

It gives distribution of Capparis spinosa subsp. spinosa var. canescens Cosson in Nepal.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 24, 2022, 12:03:59 PM7/24/22

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Yes I know that.

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Saroj Kasaju

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