Dear Gurchranji and ALL that would know about my
question....
I received this picture and accompanying write up today from
UBC.... the URL is
http://www.botanicalgarden.ubc.ca/potd/2011/10/osmunda-claytoniana.php
MY question is about the names: Osmunda claytoniana
the current name and Osmunda claytoniites for the fossil... they claim is
almost identical...
My question is clayton- iana
versus clayton- iites
what does -iana depict that is different from -iites ????/
these spellings appear in one of the
paragraphs in the above URL... I am copy pasting ithe paragraph below
within quotation marks....
"Osmunda claytoniana has the "oldest known fossil record of any
living fern", and can be traced back to the Triassic period. This species can also be considered a living fossil, because it appears almost
identical to a fossil fern species from 200 million years ago, Osmunda
claytoniites. It has gained the common name interrupted fern because of the
appearance of its fronds, on which the brown fertile pinnae "interrupt" the
green sterile pinnae." end quote
Thank you...
In the mean time the rest may also enjoy the picture... fantastik, ain'nt it?
Usha di
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claytoniana | [ klay-ton-ee-AH-na ] | named for John Clayton, 18th century Virginia plant specimen collector; described as the greatest American botanist of his day |
claytonii | [ klay-TOH-nee-eye ] | named for John Clayton, 18th century Virginia plant specimen collector; described as the greatest American botanist of his day |
claytoniites | [ klay-toh-nee-EYE-tees ] | my guess: refers to being like claytonii, in this context perhaps, being like claytoniana ... wait for comments. |
Please attached my pic of Osmunda claytoniana from Himachal Pradesh,
just before Rohtang Pass.
Pankaj
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar
<sahani...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:26 PM, ushadi Micromini
<micromi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> xbvcb
According to ICBN, II:VII:2, Article 62.1. A generic name retains the
gender assigned by botanical tradition, irrespective of classical
usage or the author's original usage. A generic name without a
botanical tradition retains the gender assigned by its author (but see
Art. 62.4).
For example, Punica granatum. Ideally Punica is of feminine gender,
"ending with 'a', hence the species name should have been 'granata',
but this name has been conserved because of its long usage. But the
question is, according to article 62.1 name should have retained the
gender assigned by botanical tradition irrespective of the usage by
author. Hence this goes against ICBN.
Second example could be Quercus oblongata. Though the gender of genus
according to name is masculine, but classically they were treated as
feminine hence, the species name is feminine.
For the understanding of a common person, if you go through ICBN ARTICLE 62.1:
IF YOU NAME YOUR SON "RAMA" AND YOU DONT SAY IF IT WAS MALE OR FEMALE
THEN ACCORDING TO THE ARTICLE IT WILL BE CONSIDERED FEMALE FOLLOWING
BOTANICAL TRADITION. VERY INTERESTINGLY LORD RAM FROM RAMAYAN IS OFTEN
REFEREED AS RAMA AND RAVAN AS RAVANA IN ENGLISH!!
IN HINDI TRAIN AS RAILGADI IS FEMALE, ENGINE IS FEMALE, BUT THE
BOGGIES ARE MALE !!
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On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:26 AM, ushadi Micromini