Solanum species for Id 190909Jm1

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 18, 2009, 11:45:25 PM9/18/09
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On 12/9/09 in Butterfly Park within Zoo Park in Hyderabad.
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J.M. Garg

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Sep 19, 2009, 8:34:54 AM9/19/09
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A reply:
"Dear Mr Garg,
It looks like Solanum eriocarpa to me. Are the ripe fruits yellow?
Susmita"
 
Thanks, Susmita ji. But I didn't see any fruits.


 
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Vijayadas D

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Sep 19, 2009, 8:41:41 AM9/19/09
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Dear,
 
let me to know whether it is shrub form or tree form .  I know one tree form of solanum from Kerala, leaves of plant pastesd here some what looking like that.

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 19, 2009, 8:53:34 AM9/19/09
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Thanks, Vijayadas ji,
It was a shrub.

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 19, 2009, 9:18:32 AM9/19/09
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I didn't find any pictures/ links for Solanum eriocarpa.
 
I think it may be Solanum villosum Miller (red-fruited nightshade) with many syn. as per e-Flora of China & Pakistan as per link below ( I think it was cultivated being in a Butterfly Park):
 
& as per pictures at:
 
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J.M. Garg

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Oct 4, 2009, 11:16:06 AM10/4/09
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation pl.
Earlier relevant feedback:
 
"I didn't find any pictures/ links for Solanum eriocarpa.
 
I think it may be Solanum villosum Miller (red-fruited nightshade) with many syn. as per e-Flora of China & Pakistan as per link below ( I think it was cultivated being in a Butterfly Park):
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020611

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200020611
 
& as per pictures at:
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-in:IE-ContextMenu&rlz=1I7GZEZ_en-GB&q=Solanum+villosum&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=xta0SofULsSfkQWHk_nGCw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4"

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Akramul Hoque

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Oct 4, 2009, 1:57:36 PM10/4/09
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Dear GARG JI,
Hope all of our frnds  of  Indiantreepix   are well . I 'm  too much proud of this site. I'm getting  much  help  for  my  botanical  study  from it. 
A request  -----pl  give  me  the  an updated  data  from where  i can  get  all   the  photographs( without  elemination of any photo )  alphabetically.
It is  Solanum  verbascifolium  (SOLANACEAE).
 
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J.M. Garg

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Oct 4, 2009, 2:01:02 PM10/4/09
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Thanks, Akramul ji.
You can download it from home page http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix.

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 4, 2009, 2:13:07 PM10/4/09
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Hi, Akramul ji,
Do you mean it to be Solanum  verbascifolium  L. as per links?:
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Dr Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 4, 2009, 3:18:28 PM10/4/09
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Indian S. verbascifolium is now S. erianthum D Don, as per Efloras of China and akistan


 

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Dr Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 4, 2009, 3:22:48 PM10/4/09
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Garg ji, you have to confirm whether this plant was a small herb (less than 1 m) or a woody shrub or tree.

J.M. Garg

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Oct 4, 2009, 11:18:54 PM10/4/09
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Thanks, Singh ji.
Can't say with surety- may a largish herb or a smallish shrub.

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Akramul Hoque

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Oct 5, 2009, 6:39:58 AM10/5/09
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Hello Garg Ji ,
Just now I'm at class room  and will bussy  upto 10 pm.
 
The confusion created  By  Dr. Gurcharan Singh is  not  a Confusion at all .
 
 Actually  this is the matter  of  discussion  regarding  SEVERE   DEEP   NOMENCLATURAL   TAXONOMY .  At  10.30 pm (KOLKATA)   I will discuss it.
 
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EX-SENIOR RESEARCH  FELLOW 
( Authorised  on Revision of  Indian Dioscoreaceae)
BOTANICAL  SURVEY  OF  INDIA
 
PART TIME LECTURER  OF  BOTANY
ULUBERIA  COLLEGE
UNIVERSITY  OF  CALCUTTA   

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Akramul Hoque

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Oct 5, 2009, 2:42:42 PM10/5/09
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hello ji,
 
regarding  nomencltural  problem  a discussion has prepared  in the attached file pl go through it.
 
AKRAM

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Dr Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 5, 2009, 3:03:13 PM10/5/09
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Dear Mr Akramul Hoque
 
The basic question still remains. Is the plant under consideration S. verbascifolium L. or S. erianthum (that has been identified wrongly by some Indian authors as S. verbascifolium)?, and if it is S. verbascifolium, what are the differences between this and S. erianthum
 I hope you would enlighten on that. There is no confusion about nomenclature. It is about the identity.

J.M. Garg

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Oct 7, 2009, 2:30:38 AM10/7/09
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Hi, Aakramul ji,
Forwarding again for your kind reply pl.:
"Dear Mr Akramul Hoque
 
The basic question still remains. Is the plant under consideration S. verbascifolium L. or S. erianthum (that has been identified wrongly by some Indian authors as S. verbascifolium)?, and if it is S. verbascifolium, what are the differences between this and S. erianthum
I hope you would enlighten on that. There is no confusion about nomenclature. It is about the identity." from Singh ji.
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Akramul Hoque

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Oct 7, 2009, 2:23:36 PM10/7/09
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Hello  Ji,
HERE   IS   A   LONG  DISCUSSION   MENTIONING   DIFF FLORAS   AND   ICBN  LATEST  RULES   WITH   ART. NOS.
LASTLY    I   HAVE  A    COMMENT   IN  BRIEF   AT   LAST  PAGE.
 
PL  FOLLOW  THE  ATTACHED FILE
 
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