tree 2 for id

[Padmanabhan Geetha]

Hi everyone

May be this has been posted before. I am yet to see some of the postings, so apologies if this has already been discussed.

Location : Foothills of Velliangiri hills, growing next to the tree i posted in my last mail
moderate height, eight/nine year old children would be tempted to climb this tree... ( if children have time or permission for tree climbing)

geetha

[Neil Soares]

Hi Geetha,   It is the true Ashoka Tree, also called the Sita Ashoka tree [Saraca asoca].                           With regards,                             Neil Soares.- --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Padmanabhan Geetha <iye...@gmail.com> wrote:

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Neil ji.

From Indiantreepix Database:

Saraca asoca (Invalid Syn. S. indica)

Caesalpiniaceae

Sorrowless tree, Sita-Ashok

As per my records, I have pictures of its flowering in last of January'07, in Feb'07 & in the middle of March'07 in Kolkata. I saw it flowering profusely today (26/2/08) in Kolkata. Ritesh is regularly watching its beautiful flowers while on the way to office in Mumbai (22/2/08).  In full bloom in Bangalore right now (28/2/08) as per Ranjini Kamath. Profuse flowering at Ashok Van in Sanjay Gandhi National Park, Mumbai- Kiran ji. Flowering at Bangalore, Kempu Thota (Lal Bagh)- Apr 2008- Raghu ji.

Trees of Delhi states its flowering in the last week of March, peaking early in April. Beautiful Trees & Shrubs of Calcutta by Sh. R.K. Chakraverty & S.K.Jain states that it flowers from early spring (Feb.- March) to late spring (Feb.-March).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashoka_tree

Saraca asoca (Sita-Ashok or Sorrowless tree) - indiantreepix | Google Groups

some useful links and Ashoka :-) - indiantreepix | Google Groups

Red flowering Tree - Saraca asoca, Ashoka Tree - indiantreepix | Google Groups

Ashoka: A plant that make a woman free of sorrow - indiantreepix | Google Groups

Creating Awareness about Indian Flora & Fauna:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 For learning about our trees & plants, please visit/ join Google e-group (Indiantreepix) http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en

[Anand Kumar Bhatt]

Last time when Sita Ashok was discussed I remember somebody mentioning that although Sita lived during her captivity in Ashok Vatika (=garden), she actually spent her days under the shade of Amherstia nobils. At that time I let it go, but it rankled me. It is not a very common tree, amd I don't thnk it has a wide canopy to give a shady shelter underneath as Ashok. I would be grateful to know something more of it, and the source for info about Sita and Amherstia.

Incidentally, since when did we start calling Polyalthia longifolia Ashok?

akbhatt

Gwalior. 474 005. Tele: 0751-247 2233. Mobile 0 94253 09780.

[figtree]

I am adding some information regarding Amherstia nobilis. About 2
centuries back when the English people came to know of this plant,
the demand of this plant was so high among the English nobles that
the famous horticlturist Joseph Paxton sent an young English man -
John Gibson (age 24) to Calcutta to proceed to lower Burma (Myanmar)
from there. It was very difficult at that time to go to Arakan, Gibson
met Nathaniel Wallich, the great botanist and the then Suprintendent
of "Royal Botanic Garden" ,Sibpur (Calcutta) from 1815 to 1846. On
Wallich"s advice he undertook a boat journey and covered the North
East India Extensively and collected a large number of orchid species.
He donated a large number of these orchid species to Dr. Wallich for
cultivation in the Indian Botanic Garden and as a reward got two
saplings of Amherstia nobilis, which he took to London with him.

This story tells us that Amherstia was not at all common at that time.
Moreover, Ceylon at that time was under British Occupation, it was
much easier to collect Amherstia from Sri Lanka, if the plants were
not rare there. However, it needs confirmation.

On Nov 18, 9:20 am, "Anand Kumar Bhatt" <anandkbh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Last time when Sita Ashok was discussed I remember somebody mentioning that
> although Sita lived during her captivity in Ashok Vatika (=garden), she
> actually spent her days under the shade of Amherstia nobils. At that time I
> let it go, but it rankled me. It is not a very common tree, amd I don't thnk
> it has a wide canopy to give a shady shelter underneath as Ashok. I would be
> grateful to know something more of it, and the source for info about Sita
> and Amherstia.
> Incidentally, since when did we start calling Polyalthia longifolia Ashok?
> akbhatt
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:59 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks, Neil ji.
> > From Indiantreepix Database:

> >         *Saraca asoca (Invalid Syn. S. indica)* *Caesalpiniaceae* *Sorrowless
> > tree, Sita-Ashok* As per my records, I have pictures of its flowering in

> > last of January'07, in Feb'07 & in the middle of March'07 in Kolkata. I saw
> > it flowering profusely today (26/2/08) in Kolkata. Ritesh is regularly
> > watching its beautiful flowers while on the way to office in Mumbai
> > (22/2/08).  In full bloom in Bangalore right now (28/2/08) as per Ranjini
> > Kamath. Profuse flowering at Ashok Van in Sanjay Gandhi National Park,
> > Mumbai- Kiran ji. Flowering at Bangalore, Kempu Thota (Lal Bagh)- Apr 2008-
> > Raghu ji. Trees of Delhi states its flowering in the last week of March,
> > peaking early in April. Beautiful Trees & Shrubs of Calcutta by Sh. R.K.
> > Chakraverty & S.K.Jain states that it flowers from early spring (Feb.-
> > March) to late spring (Feb.-March).

> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashoka_treeSaraca asoca (Sita-Ashok or
> > Sorrowless tree) - indiantreepix | Google Groups<http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/3...> some
> > useful links and Ashoka :-) - indiantreepix | Google Groups<http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/2...> Red
> > flowering Tree - Saraca asoca, Ashoka Tree - indiantreepix | Google Groups<http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/e...> Ashoka:
> > A plant that make a woman free of sorrow - indiantreepix | Google Groups<http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/d...>

>
> >  On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Neil Soares <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> >>    Hi Geetha,
> >>   It is the true Ashoka Tree, also called the Sita Ashoka tree [Saraca
> >> asoca].
> >>                           With regards,
> >>                             Neil Soares.-
>

> >> --- On *Mon, 11/17/08, Padmanabhan Geetha <iye...@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> >> From: Padmanabhan Geetha <iye...@gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [indiantreepix:5958] tree 2 for id
> >> To: indian...@googlegroups.com
> >> Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 5:49 PM
>
> >> Hi everyone
>
> >> May be this has been posted before. I am yet to see some of the postings,
> >> so apologies if this has already been discussed.
>
> >> Location : Foothills of Velliangiri hills, growing next to the tree i
> >> posted in my last mail
> >> moderate height, eight/nine year old children would be tempted to climb
> >> this tree... ( if children have time or permission for tree climbing)
>
> >> geetha
>
> >> Creating Awareness about Indian Flora & Fauna:
> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
> >> For learning about our trees & plants, please visit/ join Google e-group
> >> (Indiantreepix)http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en
>

> --
> Anand Kumar Bhatt
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[Padmanabhan Geetha]

Dear Neil
thank you, am seeing the true Ashoka tree, flowering for the first time.
geetha

[J.M. Garg]

From Rupi ji:

"Hi, Gargji,
I have seen ashoka while studying botany. The tall straight tree asopalav is not true ashok. My memory sais that true ashoka(that is how we used to call in class) had dark green leaves and orange flower bunch and not yellow orangeas shown on picture or light green leaves.  Can it be a different variety? At that time Ahmedabad had just one tree. Later on i have been seeing same type of more trees in gardens in Ahmedabad. Sorry i do not remember latin name.
regards,
Rupi"

[Mahendra Prasad]

Anand ji has raised a valid issue that puzzled me also. I remember that in school in mid 1950s we had a P. longifolia referred to as Ashok. Much later in Kolkata I learnt it was called Devdaru in Bengali and the Ashok was a different tree. This confused me. I too would like to know how it came to be and when. --- On Tue, 18/11/08, Anand Kumar Bhatt <anand...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Mahadeswara Swamy]

I do not know whether some body has cleared the doubt. If already done the mail may be ignored.
The true ashoka is 'Saraca asoca' of Fabaceae.
I am not able to access mail for the last one week.
Dr. Mahadeswara swamy

--- On Thu, 20/11/08, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
> "We often ignore the beauty around us"

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