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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 19, 2023, 3:51:20 AM11/19/23
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Dear Members,

Location:  Lamjung , Central Nepal 
Date: November 2023
Elevation 1660m.
Habit : Wild 
Images sent by Mr. Basudev Neupane

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju
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Mandru Ramesh Chowdary

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Nov 21, 2023, 12:11:34 AM11/21/23
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Check with Celastrus orbiculatus

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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 21, 2023, 2:59:42 AM11/21/23
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Thank you Mr. Chowdary for the hint. By the way Celastrus orbiculatus have got no distribution in Nepal.
My guess is   Celastrus hookeri Prain or  Celastrus membranifolius Prain  according to the color of
the drupes. Please have a look at the enclosed link pages from a book 'Flora of India Vol 5 by BSI'.

Saroj Kasaju


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J.M. Garg

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Dec 4, 2023, 2:56:45 AM12/4/23
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Check with Celastrus orbiculatus- from Mandru ji 

Thank you Mr. Chowdary for the hint. By the way Celastrus orbiculatus have got no distribution in Nepal.
My guess is Celastrus hookeri Prain or Celastrus membranifolius Prain according to the color of the drupes. Please have a look at the enclosed link pages from a book 'Flora of India Vol 5 by BSI'.

Saroj Kasaju 

 

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navendu page

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Dec 4, 2023, 8:48:36 AM12/4/23
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Likely to be a species of Flacourtia

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J.M. Garg

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Dec 4, 2023, 10:05:07 AM12/4/23
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Thanks a lot, Navendu ji
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Saroj Kasaju

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Dec 4, 2023, 10:13:24 AM12/4/23
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I guess then elevation, fruit colors and leaf margin do not match with any of two sp. found in Nepal.

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J.M. Garg

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Dec 10, 2023, 4:30:52 AM12/10/23
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Yes, it looks different from images of Flacourtia.



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J.M. Garg

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Dec 10, 2023, 4:41:26 AM12/10/23
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I tried Salicaceae, Prunus, and Rhamnaceae but could not find a match. 

On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 at 15:05, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:


Thank  Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju


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Saroj Kasaju

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Dec 10, 2023, 7:27:33 AM12/10/23
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What about my earlier guess : Thank you Mr. Chowdary for the hint. By the way Celastrus orbiculatus have got no distribution in Nepal.
My guess is   Celastrus hookeri Prain or  Celastrus membranifolius Prain  according to the color of
the drupes. Please have a look at the enclosed link pages from a book 'Flora of India Vol 5 by BSI'.  ???

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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

navendu page

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Dec 10, 2023, 7:48:42 AM12/10/23
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Celastrus has a dehiscent fruit. This is an indehiscent fruit.

I had suggested Flacourtia earlier based on the leaves but did not notice that inflorescence is paniculate, which is not seen in Flacourtia.
I now feel that this could be Symplocos paniculata. Let me know what you all think.  

Navendu

Saroj Kasaju

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Dec 10, 2023, 7:52:22 AM12/10/23
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Fruit color matching ?  Leaf looks like a match !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Dec 22, 2023, 2:51:53 AM12/22/23
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Yes, fruit colour look slightly dark compared to images on the net like:
https://www.jerseyyards.org/plant/symplocos-paniculata/
Unable to open GBIF for checking the fruiting specimens. 
Maybe the fruits become darker. 
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Saroj Kasaju

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Dec 22, 2023, 3:50:29 AM12/22/23
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OK Mr. Garg !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Dec 28, 2023, 7:02:06 AM12/28/23
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You may check GBIF fruiting specimens (one) from India. 
It is possible that fruits get darker at a later stage. 
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Saroj Kasaju

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Dec 28, 2023, 7:22:18 AM12/28/23
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You may be right Mr. Garg. Appreciate if Navendu ji would write some comments !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Mandru Ramesh Chowdary

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Dec 30, 2023, 8:00:24 AM12/30/23
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The size of the berry is large in Symplocos sps..


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