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Ritesh Kumar Choudhary

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Nov 4, 2010, 8:41:59 PM11/4/10
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Hello Nirupa ji,

I think your plant is Silene setisperma only. Recently I've also photographed this from Himachal Pradesh. Because of the drooping nature of the flower, fringed petals are not visible in your photo. Pl find my fotos for comparison.

Best regards,
Ritesh.


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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 4, 2010, 10:24:17 PM11/4/10
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Ritesh ji
Kindly take care that two separate mails should not have same subject line. There are lot of chances of replies getting mixed up. It would be best to upload your photographs to be the same species, photographs can be uploaded in the same thread.

Some how I am not very confident about the identification with S. setisperma. Firstly the photograph at FOI and that uploaded by Narupa ji don't look identical. One at FOI has much greener calyx and veins don't seem merging towards apex. The one uploaded by Nirupa ji has paler calyx (almost cream colour) with veins clearly uniting above. Unfortunately both don't have leaves to confirm.
  Fortunately your photographs are more illustrative and resemble the plant uploaded by Nirupa ji, but is it S. setisperma?

The name Silene setisperma was given by Majumdar for species earlier known as Lychnis inflata (Wall. ex Don) Benth. (because there was already a species by the name of Silene inflata). The plant has elliptic to lanceolate leaves, lower petiolate. In your plant the leaves are clearly ovate, with sessile perhaps cordate base.

Perhaps some more comparison is needed.


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Ritesh Kumar Choudhary

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Nov 4, 2010, 10:43:12 PM11/4/10
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Dear sir,

Thanks for the important information regarding S. stisperma. Unfortunately, I could not find the original description of the plant anywhere and blindly followed the FOI photograph. I hope experts on the group will help in this regard.

As far as posting for the same thread is concerned, I tried to reply from the link provided in the digest mail but could not find any option to attach my fotos. Therefore, posted them with same subject line in a separate mail thinking them to be merged finally. But they did'nt. May be I am not aware of the correct procedure. I would be grateful if you pl suggest me the way to reply with an attachment.

Best regards,
Ritesh.

Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 18, 2010, 6:06:29 PM11/18/10
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Further insight into this plant and one uploaded by Nirupa ji is needed in light of my observations above.

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

J.M. Garg

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Dec 9, 2010, 4:37:12 AM12/9/10
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Some how I am not very confident about the identification with S. setisperma. Firstly the photograph at FOI and that uploaded by Narupa ji don't look identical. One at FOI has much greener calyx and veins don't seem merging towards apex. The one uploaded by Nirupa ji has paler calyx (almost cream colour) with veins clearly uniting above. Unfortunately both don't have leaves to confirm.


Fortunately your photographs are more illustrative and resemble the plant uploaded by Nirupa ji, but is it S. setisperma?

The name Silene setisperma was given by Majumdar for species earlier known as Lychnis inflata (Wall. ex Don) Benth. (because there was already a species by the name of Silene inflata). The plant has elliptic to lanceolate leaves, lower petiolate. In your plant the leaves are clearly ovate, with sessile perhaps cordate base.

Perhaps some more comparison is needed.

--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

 

“Thanks for the important information regarding S. stisperma. Unfortunately, I could not find the original description of the plant anywhere and blindly followed the FOI photograph. I hope experts on the group will help in this regard.

Best regards,
Ritesh.”

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Gurcharan Singh

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Dec 22, 2010, 6:07:33 PM12/22/10
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Some how I am not very confident about the identification with S. setisperma. Firstly the photograph at FOI and that uploaded by Narupa ji don't look identical. One at FOI has much greener calyx and veins don't seem merging towards apex. The one uploaded by Nirupa ji has paler calyx (almost cream colour) with veins clearly uniting above. Unfortunately both don't have leaves to confirm.


Fortunately your photographs are more illustrative and resemble the plant uploaded by Nirupa ji, but is it S. setisperma?

The name Silene setisperma was given by Majumdar for species earlier known as Lychnis inflata (Wall. ex Don) Benth. (because there was already a species by the name of Silene inflata). The plant has elliptic to lanceolate leaves, lower petiolate. In your plant the leaves are clearly ovate, with sessile perhaps cordate base.

Perhaps some more comparison is needed.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

 

“Thanks for the important information regarding S. stisperma. Unfortunately, I could not find the original description of the plant anywhere and blindly followed the FOI photograph. I hope experts on the group will help in this regard.

Best regards,
Ritesh.”



-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

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JM Garg

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Oct 2, 2016, 1:40:17 AM10/2/16
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It should be Silene indica as per images herein.
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