MS/2018/August/1 : ID of the tree at Lalbagh.

[M Swamy]

Dear friends,

Please ID the tree photographed at Lalbagh on 9th August 2018. It is a Terminalia species.

[J.M. Garg]

Pl. check https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/combretaceae/terminalia

[N Arun Kumar]

Not Terminalia, but Barringtonia asiatica (L.) Kurz

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:24 AM, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear friends,

Please ID the tree photographed at Lalbagh on 9th August 2018. It is a Terminalia species.

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Arun Kumar N

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Arun ji 

On Tue 21 Aug, 2018, 12:34 PM N Arun Kumar, <arunam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not Terminalia, but Barringtonia asiatica (L.) Kurz

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:24 AM, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear friends,

Please ID the tree photographed at Lalbagh on 9th August 2018. It is a Terminalia species.

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[M Swamy]

Thanks Arun ji.   Let me check.   The guide introduced it as wild badam and a species of Terminalia.

[M Swamy]

[M Swamy]

[M Swamy]

Dear friends,

Please ID the palm  photographed at Lalbagh on 9th August 2018. 

[Ushadi Micromini]

adonidia sp ?

size of the fruits?

usha di

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Dear friends,

Please ID the palm  photographed at Lalbagh on 9th August 2018. 

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[Ushadi Micromini]

maclura sp?

usha di

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Please ID the tree photographed at Lalbagh on 9th August 2018. 

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[Pudji Widodo]

Wodyetia bifurcata

Pudji Widodo

Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman

Purwokerto 53122 Indonesia 

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Mahadeswara ji 

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Mahadeswara ji 

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Pudji ji 

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[Mahadeswara]

I  wait for   inputs / comments  from other experts.

On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 7:42:17 PM UTC+5:30, Mahadeswara wrote:

Thanks Arun ji.   Let me check.   The guide introduced it as wild badam and a species of Terminalia.

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:41 PM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, Arun ji 

On Tue 21 Aug, 2018, 12:34 PM N Arun Kumar, <arunam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not Terminalia, but Barringtonia asiatica (L.) Kurz

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:24 AM, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear friends,

Please ID the tree photographed at Lalbagh on 9th August 2018. It is a Terminalia species.

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[Ushadi Micromini]

Thank you Mahadeswara ji

i thought i had seen mature specimen of this in a nursery that sells palms

I am glad it matches

Usha di

PS 

no need for ji at the end of my name

di is an epithet by itself.

Pps  do you recall size of the fruits???

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Date: Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:303217] Re: MS/2018/August/4: ID of the tree at Lalbagh.
To: Ushadi micromini <micromi...@gmail.com>

Thanks Ushadi ji. Your  ID is correct.   Matches with  photographs of Adonidia merrillii  in the net.

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[J.M. Garg]

Pl. check at https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lecythidaceae/barringtonia/barringtonia-asiatica

On Fri 24 Aug, 2018, 9:23 AM Mahadeswara, <swamy...@gmail.com> wrote:

I  wait for   inputs / comments  from other experts.

On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 7:42:17 PM UTC+5:30, Mahadeswara wrote:

Thanks Arun ji.   Let me check.   The guide introduced it as wild badam and a species of Terminalia.

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:41 PM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, Arun ji 

On Tue 21 Aug, 2018, 12:34 PM N Arun Kumar, <arunam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not Terminalia, but Barringtonia asiatica (L.) Kurz

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:24 AM, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear friends,

Please ID the tree photographed at Lalbagh on 9th August 2018. It is a Terminalia species.

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On Fri 24 Aug, 2018, 9:17 AM M Swamy, <swamy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Pudiji. Let me check.

[JM Garg]

Not Terminalia, but Barringtonia asiatica (L.) Kurz

[J.M. Garg]

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Subject: Re: MS/2018/August/3 : ID of the tree at Lalbagh.
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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Mahadeswara ji.

On 25 August 2018 at 09:02, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com> wrote:

I also checked and agree with the ID suggested by Mr. Arun & Garg ji. Thanks to  both of you.

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[Mahadeswara]

Usha di madam,

The size of the fruit is  around 4 to 5 cms lenght & 2 - 3 cm breadth .

M.Swamy

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 9:50:20 AM UTC+5:30, Ushadi wrote:

Thank you Mahadeswara ji

i thought i had seen mature specimen of this in a nursery that sells palms

I am glad it matches

Usha di

PS 

no need for ji at the end of my name

di is an epithet by itself.

Pps  do you recall size of the fruits???

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To: Ushadi micromini <micromi...@gmail.com>

Thanks Ushadi ji. Your  ID is correct.   Matches with  photographs of Adonidia merrillii  in the net.

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:19 PM Ushadi Micromini <micromi...@gmail.com> wrote:

adonidia sp ?

size of the fruits?

usha di

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 8:10 PM, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear friends,

Please ID the palm  photographed at Lalbagh on 9th August 2018. 

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[Ushadi Micromini]

Mahadeswara ji

Thank you

that would make the fruits about 2 to 2.5  inches  long and half that wide?

and infer they are  elliptical

adonidia sp ? 

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where as foxtail palm // Wodyetia bifurcata 

fruits are round and much larger

like a small dwarf orange or even a pingpong ball, if you please.

scroll down a bit in the page  to halfway....for a spectacular pic....

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so right now i will stay with  adonidia sp ?

thank you

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[Ushadi Micromini]

one more page that shows foxtail palm seeds

The nuts on the left are Foxtail Palm Nuts. The dark-skinned nuts come from the Fan Palm tree. The green ones on the right are from the Queen Palm Tree. The Queen Palm nuts will ship green but will ripen into a lovely golden color. They may be given to your birds either green or ripened. We find our birds like them either way.

We find the palm nuts store well in the refrigerator for approximately a week. Others have reported to us that they have frozen theirs for extended storage and thaw them in a cup of hot water before serving.( to brds, is what they mean) 

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[Mahadeswara]

Your inference is correct. I take it as Adonidia sps.

Thanks Usha Di for the ID.  

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for id pl 

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for id pl 

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Subject: Re: MS/2018/August/2 : ID of the tree at Lalbagh.
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[J.M. Garg]

From another thread from Mahadeswara ji:

I also checked and agree with the ID suggested by Mr. Arun & Garg ji. Thanks to  both of you.

[Raman Arunachalam]

Is this 

Aphanamixis polystachya, (Wall.) R.N. Parker <=> Pithraj Tree

https://ramanarunachalam.github.io/Flora-and-Fauna/Flora/Aphanamixis%20-%20Pithraj%20Tree/Pithraj%20Tree.html

Raman

<Lalbagh tree unID (1).JPG><Lalbagh tree unID (2).JPG><Lalbagh tree unID (4).JPG><Lalbagh tree unID (5).JPG><Lalbagh tree unID (3).JPG>

[Ushadi Micromini]

Raman

what a nice study

love the detailed pictures

thanks 

do you have details of the fruits? size, surface, cut open etc 

same question to Mahadeswaraji

usha di

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[Raman Arunachalam]

I do have the pictures at various stages in the link.

each one is marked as Tender 1 - 3, Seed etc

Raman

[Raman Arunachalam]

Voacanga africana, Stapf. <=> Akan Tree

https://ramanarunachalam.github.io/Flora-and-Fauna/Flora/Voacanga%20-%20Akan%20Tree/Akan%20Tree.html

Raman

On 04-Sep-2018, at 8:39 PM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

<Lalbagh tree unID (1).JPG><Lalbagh tree unID (2).JPG><Lalbagh tree unID (4).JPG><Lalbagh tree unID (5).JPG><Lalbagh tree unID (3).JPG>

[Ushadi Micromini]

so this case for id in this thread is not Aphanamixis polystachya

and also not maclura 

the fruit in this case is indeed similar to Raman's pictures of  Voacanga africana

Family:	Apocynaceae
Genus:	Voacanga
Species:	V. africana

thanks Raman

i found additional picture of the fruit in this utube video about  Voacanga africana

seems similar to this case here , so do the leaves.

now Mahadeswara ji has to confirm if his tree is what Raman has in this second 

usha di

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[Raman Arunachalam]

Mahadeswara ji  has put 2 sets of pictures.

I replied in the same thread which causes this confusion

There are 2 trees

Raman

[Ushadi Micromini]

raman

i was fixated on fruit first: in the third and fifth 

that seems to be same as  Voacanga africana fruit

and number four has a small green fruit in the center almost that fruit may be  Aphanamixis polystachya

now remains 1 and 2

so could you please help in that. thanks, Raman

ushadi

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:19 AM, Raman Arunachalam <raman_ar...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mahadeswara ji  has put 2 sets of pictures.

I replied in the same thread which causes this confusion

There are 2 trees

Raman

On 05-Sep-2018, at 8:09 AM, Ushadi Micromini <micromi...@gmail.com> wrote:

so this case for id in this thread is not Aphanamixis polystachya

and also not maclura 

the fruit in this case is indeed similar to Raman's pictures of  Voacanga africana

Family:	Apocynaceae
Genus:	Voacanga
Species:	V. africana

thanks Raman

i found additional picture of the fruit in this utube video about  Voacanga africana

seems similar to this case here , so do the leaves.

now Mahadeswara ji has to confirm if his tree is what Raman has in this second 

usha di

On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:38 PM, 'Raman Arunachalam' via efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Voacanga africana, Stapf. <=> Akan Tree

https://ramanarunachalam.github.io/Flora-and-Fauna/Flora/Voacanga%20-%20Akan%20Tree/Akan%20Tree.html

Raman

On 04-Sep-2018, at 8:39 PM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Forwarding again for id pl 

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Subject: Re: MS/2018/August/2 : ID of the tree at Lalbagh.
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear friends,

Please ID the tree photographed at Lalbagh on 9th August 2018. 

<Lalbagh tree unID (1).JPG><Lalbagh tree unID (2).JPG><Lalbagh tree unID (4).JPG><Lalbagh tree unID (5).JPG><Lalbagh tree unID (3).JPG>

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[Ushadi Micromini]

mahadeswaraji

you may have to revisit your trip pictures from that day

or go back to lalbagh!! not a bad prospect.

ushha di

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Raman ji.

Yes several posts have been clubbed in the same thread. 

Raman

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[Ushadi Micromini]

Gargji

they are not

Raman thinks and i think he is correct most likely

that there are photos of two trees in what Mahadwswaraji has submitted

i find pic 3 and 5 with larger rough skinned fruit

and picture 4 with small green smooth skinned one, looking different may be

my surprise was he was addressing things ti Aarti

that had me puzzled

so you may yet be right

lets see what Raman tells us 

usha di

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:03 AM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, Raman ji.

Yes several posts have been clubbed in the same thread. 

On Tue 4 Sep, 2018, 10:35 PM Raman Arunachalam, <raman_ar...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I do have the pictures at various stages in the link.

each one is marked as Tender 1 - 3, Seed etc

Raman

On 04-Sep-2018, at 10:13 PM, Ushadi Micromini <micromi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Raman

what a nice study

love the detailed pictures

thanks 

do you have details of the fruits? size, surface, cut open etc 

same question to Mahadeswaraji

usha di

On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:00 PM, 'Raman Arunachalam' via efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Is this 

Aphanamixis polystachya, (Wall.) R.N. Parker <=> Pithraj Tree

https://ramanarunachalam.github.io/Flora-and-Fauna/Flora/Aphanamixis%20-%20Pithraj%20Tree/Pithraj%20Tree.html

Raman

On 04-Sep-2018, at 8:39 PM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Forwarding again for id pl 

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Subject: Re: MS/2018/August/2 : ID of the tree at Lalbagh.
To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear friends,

Please ID the tree photographed at Lalbagh on 9th August 2018. 

<Lalbagh tree unID (1).JPG><Lalbagh tree unID (2).JPG><Lalbagh tree unID (4).JPG><Lalbagh tree unID (5).JPG><Lalbagh tree unID (3).JPG>

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I am posting the pictures of the  above tree.  Photos taken in a park in Mysore a few months back (2018) 

[J.M. Garg]

[M Swamy]

Forwarding again for ID